2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhadya wanna bet the CIA is sitting on evidence of Trump and his camp communicating and colluding..
With Russia during the campaign - ready to dangle it threateningly over his fat orange head the moment he actually sets out to dismantle the Agency?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/11/10/russian-officials-were-in-contact-with-trump-during-campaign.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl

MFM008
(20,041 posts)I'm sure.
Zoonart
(13,793 posts)I think that's why Woolsey high tailed. it out of there.
ElementaryPenguin
(7,902 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,902 posts)And Rudy G. may have gotten a heads up to distance himself.
Zoonart
(13,793 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,902 posts)In the event they had the Con Campaign absolutely nailed! Trump wouldn't be smart enough to conceive this - but the evil Bannon likely would be.
UCmeNdc
(9,654 posts)Putin has a good thing going with Trump in play.
pbmus
(12,985 posts)
sfwriter
(3,032 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,902 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)The map doesn't look good for Democrats in 2018, but a Trump impeachment would alter the outlook.
ElementaryPenguin
(7,902 posts)Would have no choice but to impeach and remove der Fuhrer from office
ElementaryPenguin
(7,902 posts)Progressive dog
(7,534 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,902 posts)Freethinker65
(11,201 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,902 posts)northoftheborder
(7,631 posts)This is turning into soap opera/spy novel/political thriller..........horrifying because it is all REAL, not just words in a book.........
ElementaryPenguin
(7,902 posts)Wonder when the next chapter will end up being released.
sinkingfeeling
(56,323 posts)Turn CO Blue
(4,221 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,902 posts)mopinko
(72,953 posts)the cia knows what pootie has on him. this aint just about money. this is about bought loyalty, blackmail and plain treason.
2naSalit
(97,785 posts)the whole "hand" in this game.
ElementaryPenguin
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2naSalit
(97,785 posts)I have been having a recurring dream... for over a week, in which something happens whereby the inauguration is postponed or something and it seems it is something that happens at the last minute like around the 19th.
Many of my recurring dreams actually come to pass in a manner very much like I saw in the dream. This feels like one of those and I hope that it is one of those.
Speaking to a friend today over tea, a very worldly war correspondent in fact, and they speculated that it may take about six months so the trumplodites will be terribly disillusioned and actually be glad when the cheetoking gets kennedied. He's a loose cannon and uncontrollable... which makes him expendable, which appears to be why the Rs don't give much of a shit about what he does until that fateful day... and then we will get WWIII as a consolation prize. For the time being, he's great cover for the shit they are pulling behind closed doors making us a fascist country... shock doctrine style.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)is not from the CIA.
Wounded Bear
(62,958 posts)By law, they're not allowed to spy in/on America, but they probably have enough eyes and ears in Russia to know what is going on from their end. If nothing else, any of his business dealings would be available to our spooks in Moscow.
I can't imagine they don't have anything on him.
former9thward
(33,424 posts)But it sounds good so let's throw it out there and claim its true!
ElementaryPenguin
(7,902 posts)Is basically what us lay people do around here, former!! I can tell you that about everything released so far I had luckily speculated (or deduced) had happened by the day after the election. If we slow down a bit for you - maybe you'll be able to catch up - and even contribute more than just your sour cynicism!
triron
(22,240 posts)former9thward
(33,424 posts)I read countless posts here which claim the Russians hacked voting machines and changed vote totals. That is not being put forward as "speculation" but as truth and it is clear many believe it even though there is zero evidence of that. It is all baseless CTs no matter how its dressed up.
ElementaryPenguin
(7,902 posts)Perhaps Kellyanne has a position for you...
former9thward
(33,424 posts)I think a job is open for you.... BTW its also Obama's position...
ElementaryPenguin
(7,902 posts)Obama is obviously encumbered with responsibilities that do not allow him to speak as freely as you and I can do about probably most subjects. It won't do for a President (other than the idiot Trump) to publicly speculate - and there are always going to be issues that he cannot be candid about. Be that as it may, Obama's story doesn't quite add up, but the determination might well be (and maybe justifiably so) that the American public is stable enough to handle proof of hacking actual voting tallies - and that the American President was just selected by the Russian President.
You don't have to buy my theory, and that's fine. I'm afraid I don't have time to at the moment to include some of the circumstantial evidence that I feel strongly supports what I'm suggesting, but you've probably seen most of it by now anyway. To each his own.
unblock
(55,615 posts)it's already public information.
oh, you mean *more* evidence of that sort of thing?
uponit7771
(93,237 posts)emulatorloo
(46,130 posts)former9thward
(33,424 posts)Almost instantly.
emulatorloo
(46,130 posts)Someone may get increasingly frustrated and leak it later
emulatorloo
(46,130 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,902 posts)You know a fascist traitor when you see one!!! (Too bad 40 some odd percent of the population did not! - they made it close enough to steal!)
BadGimp
(4,095 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)He probably has glowing words for the kgb.
He is openly treasonous. I feel like something will happen to him.
ElementaryPenguin
(7,902 posts)Pick a fight with the Bush Crime Family, and don't even bother hide a traitorous preference the Russian government over America's.
Hmmm. Doesn't sound like the safest course of action a U.S. President could possibly take.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,902 posts)Amazing. Trump is like Adolph Hitler meets Eddie Haskel meets Barney Fife.
2naSalit
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hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)ElementaryPenguin
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triron
(22,240 posts)meow2u3
(25,207 posts)They put their lives on the line to neutralize foreign threats to national security, including and especially those from your beloved comrade Putin. It's even more foolish to insult or threaten to dismantle the agency at Pootie's behest.
If you don't believe me, ask the surviving Kennedys. From JFK and RFK to their sons, they all met untimely deaths, either by assassins' bullets or by some sort of "accident."
If Comrade Casino values his life or the lives of his family, he had better not pick a fight with the CIA; he's bound to lose. That should be warning enough, but I doubt he'll heed it.
ElementaryPenguin
(7,902 posts)Unless it comes from his dear Pootie!
triron
(22,240 posts)nycbos
(6,552 posts)Charles Colson (of watergate fame) said "Once you have them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow."
lame54
(38,387 posts)libtodeath
(2,892 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,654 posts)They need to interrogate Rudy Giuliani, Roger Stone, Breitbart, Chris Christie, etc.
UCmeNdc
(9,654 posts)can verify and report.
ElementaryPenguin
(7,902 posts)