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As a committed Deist, this is not how I think, rather, a hypothetical (Original Post) Chasstev365 Saturday OP
I'm as Secular as one can be. multigraincracker Saturday #1
I share your world view Chasstev365 Saturday #2
Agree... anciano Saturday #3
Not a deist, but I believe in good and evil Easterncedar Saturday #4
Sadly, I too share that sentiment. Wuddles440 Saturday #5
But we good people must keep fighting Easterncedar Saturday #6
Not a deist either, but I do believe there is slightlv Saturday #8
that is not a deist thought Nigrum Cattus Saturday #7
Humans have free will; American human adults have chosen DJT as their choice at this time & place. No Vested Interest 1 hr ago #9

multigraincracker

(37,502 posts)
1. I'm as Secular as one can be.
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 09:41 AM
Saturday

I see the world as totally random. There is nothing that can influence how that random deck is shuffled. No hope, prayer or wish can influence how it is shuffled. The only power I have is in how I play the hand I get.

Chasstev365

(7,646 posts)
2. I share your world view
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 09:50 AM
Saturday

I once stunned an evangelical Christian I know when he gave thanks to God for something laughable. I said, "so God helped you find your car keys, but didn't stop the Holocaust?"

I guess if God were vengeful, I can't think of a better punishment than Donald Trump.

anciano

(2,234 posts)
3. Agree...
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 09:57 AM
Saturday

I no longer believe in the concept of an anthropomorphic deity, but rather view us mortals as one with Nature, just as waves are to the ocean. Life is unpredictable and our experiences are simply the random acts of Nature.

Easterncedar

(6,144 posts)
6. But we good people must keep fighting
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 11:32 AM
Saturday

Giving up gives evil more power.

Off to the anti war protest

slightlv

(7,767 posts)
8. Not a deist either, but I do believe there is
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 07:27 PM
Saturday

such a thing as absolute evil and a corresponding good. That's a change for me. I was of the belief for decades that evil was just a personification of something people didn't want to admit in themselves. Now, I truly believe it's an entity or force of some sort that we're fighting... and losing a war against. I believe in the end good will win, but there will be too much suffering and death to make it a joyful win.

In the parlance of the christianists, I absolutely see trump as THE Anti-christ. There have been many other lesser forms than him before now, but he is the penultimate "Omen" evil, IMO. We need a dragonslayer for this day and age...

Nigrum Cattus

(1,294 posts)
7. that is not a deist thought
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 12:21 PM
Saturday

A deist would believe in any "god" intervention
Deism is the philosophical position and rationalistic theology that rejects prophecies, revelations, and religious texts as legitimate or reliable sources of divine knowledge, and instead asserts that empirical reason and observation of the natural world are exclusively logical, reliable, and sufficient to determine the existence of a Supreme Being as the creator of the universe. Unlike classical theism, Deism is the belief in the existence of a creator God who simply does not intervene anymore after creating the universe, solely based on rational thought and without any reliance on revealed religions or religious

No Vested Interest

(5,297 posts)
9. Humans have free will; American human adults have chosen DJT as their choice at this time & place.
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 12:24 PM
1 hr ago

Last edited Mon Mar 16, 2026, 12:59 PM - Edit history (1)

American humans (voters) made the choice.
Humans frequently make poor choices.

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