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Another reminder of how special Ohtani is... (Original Post) True Dough 21 hrs ago OP
I hope he has a lengthy career- playing for the Reds Redleg 21 hrs ago #1
Sure, but he plays for the Dodgers Ziggy Beans 21 hrs ago #2
I also have to try mightily to overlook that fact! True Dough 21 hrs ago #3
Gibson 1968. Good luck Ohtani. GreenWave 20 hrs ago #4
Please tell us how good of a hitter Gibson was? awesomerwb1 20 hrs ago #5
Gibson was a very good hitter! WestMichRad 20 hrs ago #6
.206 career BA is "very good"? awesomerwb1 20 hrs ago #7
I am certain Ohtani never faced Gibson's patented chin music. GreenWave 19 hrs ago #9
lol Ohtani wasn't even born when Gibson retired awesomerwb1 19 hrs ago #10
I'm sure there were pitchers with better BAs than Gibsons. WestMichRad 10 hrs ago #12
If it's pointless why are you even trying? awesomerwb1 9 hrs ago #13
Thank you for formulating opinions for me. WestMichRad 9 hrs ago #14
Too easy. Glad I could help. awesomerwb1 8 hrs ago #15
The game has changed a whole lot since 1968 True Dough 20 hrs ago #8
They didn't lower the mound because of Gibson -- although he was a factor. rsdsharp 18 hrs ago #11

True Dough

(26,821 posts)
3. I also have to try mightily to overlook that fact!
Fri Apr 10, 2026, 10:28 AM
21 hrs ago

And not hold it against him. But he's undeniably special, even in a Dodgers uniform.

GreenWave

(12,672 posts)
4. Gibson 1968. Good luck Ohtani.
Fri Apr 10, 2026, 10:44 AM
20 hrs ago

Can he start 34 games and pitch 28 complete games with 13 of those being shutouts? A final ERA of 1.12? Will they lower the mound once again because of Ohtani this time? Will the Globetrotters use him?

And behold Ohtani, another Cardinal, Jordan Walker may have finally righted his ship and is on pace for 68 dingers and 162 ribbies.

awesomerwb1

(5,114 posts)
5. Please tell us how good of a hitter Gibson was?
Fri Apr 10, 2026, 10:51 AM
20 hrs ago

Did Gibson play every day? Can Jordan Walker pitch?

Your comparisons are pretty ridiculous. Enjoy hating on Ohtani.

WestMichRad

(3,295 posts)
6. Gibson was a very good hitter!
Fri Apr 10, 2026, 11:17 AM
20 hrs ago

Especially considering he surely didn’t put a great focus on it. 24 career homers, 73 extra base hits in 1328 official plate appearances. I haven’t compared those numbers to other historic pitchers’ batting stats, but I’d venture a guess that his hitting skill was way above average.
Certainly not Ohtani numbers, but he wasn’t trying to do that.

awesomerwb1

(5,114 posts)
7. .206 career BA is "very good"?
Fri Apr 10, 2026, 11:29 AM
20 hrs ago

There are other pitchers with much better career BA 10 years plus than Gibson. (Who was an exceptional pitcher and has my full admiration and respect).
It just goes to show how good Ohtani is when the people who don't like Ohtani have to resort to comparing him with pitchers who:
1- Didn't play every day like Ohtani does.
2- Hitters who are having a good month - and don't pitch.

Funny stuff.

WestMichRad

(3,295 posts)
12. I'm sure there were pitchers with better BAs than Gibsons.
Fri Apr 10, 2026, 09:40 PM
10 hrs ago

Just as there are hitters with better averages than Ohtani. But few players have had the overall talent that Gibson possessed. Remember that he focused the great majority of his attention on pitching, not hitting… and he still managed to hit quite a few HRs, etc.

Comparing anyone to Ohtani is pointless: he’s a superhuman freak.

awesomerwb1

(5,114 posts)
13. If it's pointless why are you even trying?
Fri Apr 10, 2026, 09:58 PM
9 hrs ago

"But Gibson this"...but "Gibson that". Really? There are better hitting pitchers than Gibson and better pitchers than him as well. This makes no sense.

Yeah, better batting averages than Ohtani sure. He's a power hitter. He doesn't hit for average. And how many of those with higher BAs than Ohtani can hit 55 home runs and steal 55 bases in one season by the way?

You Ohtani "dislikers" twist yourselves into pretzels sometimes. It's sad and funny at the same time. /end

WestMichRad

(3,295 posts)
14. Thank you for formulating opinions for me.
Fri Apr 10, 2026, 10:37 PM
9 hrs ago

I’d be lost without you!

I happen to think Gibson was an all-time great. Get over it.
And I think Ohtani is fantastic. Not a hater, not at all. Wish he played for my team!

True Dough

(26,821 posts)
8. The game has changed a whole lot since 1968
Fri Apr 10, 2026, 11:30 AM
20 hrs ago

No pitcher is likely to reach double-digit complete games in a season anymore. Sandy Alcantara might be the best bet.

As for Jordan Walker, great start, but it's a long season!

rsdsharp

(12,040 posts)
11. They didn't lower the mound because of Gibson -- although he was a factor.
Fri Apr 10, 2026, 12:58 PM
18 hrs ago

For instance, Denny McClain won 31 games that year. Only one batter in the AL hit .300 — Car Yastrzemski’s .301. Don Drysdale set a record by pitching 58 2/3rds consecutive scoreless innings.

It was “the year of the pitcher,” not just the year of Gibson.

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