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mahatmakanejeeves

(67,506 posts)
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 09:58 AM Nov 9

The US Government has quietly removed a memorial to Black soldiers who died in World War II.

Reposted by Kevin M. Kruse
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Trevon Logan
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Black American soldiers literally dug these WWII graves. Traumatic. To acknowledge that fact at a cemetery they helped construct is something the Heritage Foundation cannot accept. As Veterans Day approaches, never forget that this country both compels and disrespects Black military service. Always.

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1/ The US Government has quietly removed a memorial to Black soldiers who died in World War II from the Netherlands American Cemetery in Margraten, South Limburg. The move follows a complaint from the right-wing Heritage Foundation to the American Battle Monuments Commission. ⬇️

November 9, 2025 at 8:20 AM

Black American soldiers literally dug these WWII graves. Traumatic. To acknowledge that fact at a cemetery they helped construct is something the Heritage Foundation cannot accept. As Veterans Day approaches, never forget that this country both compels and disrespects Black military service. Always.

Trevon Logan (@trevondlogan.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T13:20:16.621Z


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1/ The US Government has quietly removed a memorial to Black soldiers who died in World War II from the Netherlands American Cemetery in Margraten, South Limburg. The move follows a complaint from the right-wing Heritage Foundation to the American Battle Monuments Commission. ⬇️

November 9, 2025 at 4:23 AM

1/ The US Government has quietly removed a memorial to Black soldiers who died in World War II from the Netherlands American Cemetery in Margraten, South Limburg. The move follows a complaint from the right-wing Heritage Foundation to the American Battle Monuments Commission. ⬇️

ChrisO_wiki (@chriso-wiki.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T09:23:29.309Z


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2/ The Dutch newspaper reports that two memorial panels installed at the NAC were removed some time earlier this year. They commemorated African-American soldiers who helped liberate Europe from German occupation during World War II.
November 9, 2025 at 4:23 AM

2/ The Dutch newspaper reports that two memorial panels installed at the NAC were removed some time earlier this year. They commemorated African-American soldiers who helped liberate Europe from German occupation during World War II.

ChrisO_wiki (@chriso-wiki.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T09:23:29.310Z


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The US Government has quietly removed a memorial to Black soldiers who died in World War II. (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Nov 9 OP
The Big Cave continues. Infuriating. yorkster Nov 9 #1
The Heritage Foundation ia but one slightlv Nov 9 #12
Considering that the workshops held for implementing their baby Project 2025 included... JHB Nov 9 #22
They were Antifa before The Wizard Nov 9 #33
No, they weren't. That brand of conservative/RWer always loved their dictators... JHB Nov 9 #36
Our fathers uncles and grandfathers were antifa The Wizard Nov 10 #38
And, per earlier post in this subthread, I was discussing the Heritage Foundation... JHB Nov 10 #39
Ohhh. The 'horridness' of this administration is unending... hlthe2b Nov 9 #2
What was the compliant? The people of the village take care of the cemetery so what is the problem? Deuxcents Nov 9 #3
I thought it might be US territory, but it is not. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 9 #5
LOL: "You can always trust AI." That is either unmarked sarcasm or a serious condition. xocetaceans Nov 9 #25
Thank you. TommyT139 Nov 9 #27
No, the land was provided by the Netherlands, the cemetery is managed by the US army. NT Lanboyo Nov 9 #35
Despicable. nt delisen Nov 9 #4
This is just so amazingly mean spirited and petty that it's hard to get my head around. Biophilic Nov 9 #6
Unless there are exculpatory facts missing from the report (which I sincerely doubt) RVN VET71 Nov 9 #21
I'd leave my name and address off of a letter to them KS Toronado Nov 9 #26
Their hatred of fellow Americans is so granular The Blue Flower Nov 9 #7
As a veteran, this action makes me sick. Scalded Nun Nov 9 #8
I am so sorry for what you and our veterans have had to endure Grim Chieftain Nov 9 #10
I read somewhere back in 2016 he was slightlv Nov 9 #17
He and his racism mimics Hitler and his. MLWR Nov 9 #9
They had better not be destroyed! pandr32 Nov 9 #11
So unexpected from the White Heritage Foundation William Seger Nov 9 #13
Just disgusting. Old Crank Nov 9 #14
When is Trump just going to plow over all those graves? LudwigPastorius Nov 9 #15
The Unmonuments Men. .. yorkster Nov 9 #16
What bullshit reason was given for this blatant racism? JoseBalow Nov 9 #18
I really despise the rotten creatures in the Heritage Foundation. bronxiteforever Nov 9 #19
Ditto ... and for a long time now. KPN Nov 9 #20
There will be a reckoning. Joinfortmill Nov 9 #23
But of course.. LW1977 Nov 9 #24
From last June: TommyT139 Nov 9 #30
Limburg state members want temporary memorial for black liberators chowder66 Nov 9 #28
Thanks. I'm posting from a phone and editing ex post facto as I can. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 9 #34
Such idiots! It's moves like this Buddyzbuddy Nov 9 #29
Are they are trying to start a race war? Easterncedar Nov 9 #31
Limburgse Statenleden willen tijdelijke herdenkingsplek voor zwarte bevrijders mahatmakanejeeves Nov 9 #32
Disgraceful wendyb-NC Nov 9 #37

yorkster

(3,572 posts)
1. The Big Cave continues. Infuriating.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:10 AM
Nov 9

Whose "Heritage"?

Both the American Battle Monuments Commission and the Heritage Foundation
acted shamelessly.

slightlv

(7,040 posts)
12. The Heritage Foundation ia but one
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 12:13 PM
Nov 9

Repug institution that should branded as hate based with terrorist actions. They should be disbanded... as well as the one who keeps adding Christian nationalists in the SCOTUS. Frankly I think CPAC should be shut down for treason against the US. Germany learned this lession after WWII and it worked well for them until Bannon went over and stirred up so much chaos.

JHB

(37,867 posts)
22. Considering that the workshops held for implementing their baby Project 2025 included...
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 12:49 PM
Nov 9

...sections on using Signal and other apps to (illegally) circumvent Federal records laws, it's ripe for RICO treatment. Not to mention categorization as a seditious organization.

JHB

(37,867 posts)
36. No, they weren't. That brand of conservative/RWer always loved their dictators...
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:36 PM
Nov 9

...as long as they called themselves "anticommunist." Their perfect form of government was a banana republic, a Gilded Age US minus any Progressive Movement to rein in the excesses of the wealthy.

Economic royalists who believe in the Divine Right of money.

The Wizard

(13,492 posts)
38. Our fathers uncles and grandfathers were antifa
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 08:27 AM
Nov 10

as they were fighting fascists in Europe.

JHB

(37,867 posts)
39. And, per earlier post in this subthread, I was discussing the Heritage Foundation...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 09:10 AM
Nov 10

...an organization filled with people whose main beef with the Nazis is that they were the other team. They've liked fascists just fine.

They're fine with the desecration done to those memorials.

hlthe2b

(112,156 posts)
2. Ohhh. The 'horridness' of this administration is unending...
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:13 AM
Nov 9

Denigrating the contributions of contemporary black soldiers fighting for us in World Wars-while lauding dead Confederates, likewise the contributions of other POC and women, content to disinfranchise voters who MIGHT not support them, starve those in need, and bankrupt our government and people. Oh, I'm getting into a never-ending litany, and my BP is rising, so I'll stop there.

Any positivity in the world today? sigh...

Deuxcents

(24,801 posts)
3. What was the compliant? The people of the village take care of the cemetery so what is the problem?
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:23 AM
Nov 9

I get they want to re-write our history but this is in the Netherlands, cared for by them

mahatmakanejeeves

(67,506 posts)
5. I thought it might be US territory, but it is not.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:53 AM
Nov 9

Netherlands American Cemetery in Margraten, South Limburg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_American_Cemetery

You can always trust AI.

AI Overview

About Netherlands American Cemetery - American Battle Monuments ...
No, the Netherlands American Cemetery is not U.S. territory, but it is located on land provided to the U.S. for perpetual use by the Dutch government. The land was made available in gratitude for the American soldiers who died liberating the Netherlands during World War II.

xocetaceans

(4,314 posts)
25. LOL: "You can always trust AI." That is either unmarked sarcasm or a serious condition.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 01:02 PM
Nov 9

Here is what the ABMC FAQ states:

Are the cemetery grounds American territory?

No, the cemetery grounds are not American territory. However, use of the land is granted to the United States in perpetuity, free of any taxes, fees or any other charges. This is done through a treaty between the United States and the relevant host nation. For example, if there is a crime committed within the boundaries of an ABMC site, host nation law applies, and the investigation would be conducted by local police.

https://www.abmc.gov/about-us/faqs/


So, the "AI summary" seems to be correct in this case, but did you actually check its claims? If you don't you'll likely eventually just be accepting AI summarizing AI summarizing AI ad infinitum. Good luck with that.

Regardless, the relevant point made in the FAQ is that if crimes are committed on the land that comprises the cemetery, Dutch law would apply. If there are anti-racism laws there that would apply to the removal of those commemorative installations, perhaps Dutch law might be applied to charge those who ordered such removals under the applicable laws if evidence might be gathered via FOIA.

Of course, I might be vastly wrong regarding the utility and possible effectiveness of such an approach.

Either way, the public affairs email for the ABMC is given as:

"Please contact ABMC Public Affairs at publicaffairs@abmc.gov with any questions."

https://www.abmc.gov/cemeteries-memorials/about-netherlands-american-cemetery/


Writing the ABMC there might be a way to get what was removed to be reinstalled.

TommyT139

(2,092 posts)
27. Thank you.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 01:08 PM
Nov 9

Too much AI trash is showing up on this site, from people who might otherwise would condemn other forms of making oligarchs wealthier, and giving them personal data too.

Biophilic

(6,276 posts)
6. This is just so amazingly mean spirited and petty that it's hard to get my head around.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:04 AM
Nov 9

The people who called for this really do hate their countrymen. Why? They have to be very, very insecure. Why else would you even worry about something like this?

RVN VET71

(3,099 posts)
21. Unless there are exculpatory facts missing from the report (which I sincerely doubt)
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 12:47 PM
Nov 9

THIS IS DEMONSTRABLE PROOF OF THE RACISM IMPLICIT IN THE ACTIONS OF THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION. NOT SUBTLE RACISM. OPEN AND PUBLIC RACISM.

I want to check this out in a bit more depth. I don't have an address, but I'll find it and send a letter to these bastards to find out what exactly prompted their demand.

KS Toronado

(22,128 posts)
26. I'd leave my name and address off of a letter to them
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 01:07 PM
Nov 9

You'll get on their hate list to imprison or kill you, unless we find a way to stop IQ4.5. In their eyes not only do
they want to get rid of black people but all of us never tRumpers.

The Blue Flower

(6,258 posts)
7. Their hatred of fellow Americans is so granular
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:28 AM
Nov 9

They don't miss a chance, no matter how small, to denigrate those who are not them.

Grim Chieftain

(924 posts)
10. I am so sorry for what you and our veterans have had to endure
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 12:05 PM
Nov 9

under this pathetic excuse for a leader. I am sure you know millions of us are grateful for your service and dedication to democracy.

slightlv

(7,040 posts)
17. I read somewhere back in 2016 he was
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 12:22 PM
Nov 9

Going to do the same for the memorial for female vets. Screw DEi. All this is just to woke for him. I'd be willing to met he makes draft dodger memorial and name it the djt escape the draft memorial. It'll be right next to that Victory Arch he wants. Both will be branded Trump, with licensing fees from the govt to trumps offshore bank accounts.... which is probably where all that terrified money he supposedly collected is. Lord knows he sure has it somewhere close to him. Cause it ain't keeping the govt running or the people fed.

 

LW1977

(1,611 posts)
24. But of course..
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 12:57 PM
Nov 9

According to Trump and and his puppet master Miller, those soldiers were fighting on the wrong side.

TommyT139

(2,092 posts)
30. From last June:
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 01:15 PM
Nov 9

Easy to tell whose side Trump is on. At a meeting with the German Prime minister,

...Merz referenced the upcoming D-Day anniversary.

"We are having June 6th tomorrow, this is D-Day anniversary, when the Americans once ended a war in Europe," Merz told Trump.

Trump responded, saying: "That was not a pleasant day for you? This was not a great day."

"Well, in the long run, Mr. President, this was the liberation of my country from Nazi dictatorship," Merz responded.



https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/trump-makes-brutal-six-word-comment-about-d-day-to-german-chancellor-merz/ar-AA1GafoA

chowder66

(11,580 posts)
28. Limburg state members want temporary memorial for black liberators
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 01:11 PM
Nov 9

All parties represented in Provincial States of Limburg, with the exception of the BBB, the PVV, Forum for Democracy and Oos Limburg, want to have quickly investigated whether – whether or not temporarily – a memorial can be built for black American liberators. The eleven parties ask Deputy States (GS) to look at the possibilities with the municipality of Eijsden-Margraten.

They give this assignment in state questions in response to a publication by NRC. In the permanent exhibition in the visitor center at the cemetery, two panels have disappeared that explain the contribution of African-American soldiers. According to a spokesman for the American Battle Monuments Commission (ABMC) in Paris, it is about "roling". Kees Ribbens, senior researcher at the NIOD Institute for War, Holocaust and Genocide Studies and special professor of popular historical culture of global conflicts and massive violence at Erasmus University Rotterdam, believes that the removal of the memorial plaques fits with the approach of the Trump administration, aimed at against diversity and inclusion policies.

'Indecent' and 'unacceptable'
The eleven parties who ask the questions to GS "are shocked by the reporting". According to them, the removal does no justice to history and is in their eyes "indecent" and "unacceptable". PvdA, VVD, GroenLinks, the party for the Animals, D66, Lokaal-Limburg, SP, CDA, Horizon, 50PLUS and JA21 also want to know if GS can do something to promote the replacement of the panels.

more....(you will need to use the translate option in the address bar)
https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2025/11/08/limburgse-statenleden-willen-tijdelijke-herdenkingsplek-voor-zwarte-bevrijders-a4912174

Buddyzbuddy

(1,926 posts)
29. Such idiots! It's moves like this
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 01:13 PM
Nov 9

that compel the white America that would never vote for an Adminstration like this to dig in along with minority America and become majority America to do everything in it's power to rid our society of racist America.

You thought you were safe enough to make this move, maybe nobody would notice instead what you are doing is revealing your only true motive via the Heritage Foundation, Bravo! Now everything the Heritage Foundation has touched is suspect, everything! Especially SCJ's. Every one of you has had your hoods removed.

I once made a comment that I wish we could stamp a swastika on your foreheads like Manson's followers did. But, you've done it for us. Sure not to all of you, but it's a good start. It would also include CPAC. Any Corporate contributor for either of these is a supporter of the Nazi movement.
Any PAC that can be tied to these organizations loses their tax exempt status. Those ties go a long way back and the politicians tied to them are also part of the New Nazi Movement (NNM).

The Republican Party has been taken over by the NNM. NAZI'S ONLY HAVE ONE GOAL AT THIS TIME. THE ELIMINATION OF ALL MINORITIES AND THEIR COLLABORATORS AND THE HISTORY OF THEIR EXISTENCE.

Sure, it's not surprising but it is concrete irrefutable proof of their true goal. It adds clarity and removes doubt. It's not paranoia from conspiracists.

Easterncedar

(5,279 posts)
31. Are they are trying to start a race war?
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 01:19 PM
Nov 9

‘Cause this old white woman is not on the side of those “Heritage” fascists.

mahatmakanejeeves

(67,506 posts)
32. Limburgse Statenleden willen tijdelijke herdenkingsplek voor zwarte bevrijders
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 01:42 PM
Nov 9
The Trump Administration's War on African-American History is a Lost Cause

KEVIN M. LEVIN
NOV 09, 2025

https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/40098693-ba87-49f9-af6d-ad0da6071d46_1920x1254.avif

Netherlands American Cemetery Superintendent Mike Yasenchak presenting the U.S. flag to Jefferson Wiggins in 2009 for his role in helping to bury thousands of U.S. Service members there during WWII. (Source: History)

Today I learned that the American Battle Monuments Commission has removed two memorial panels (1) honoring Black World War II soldiers from the Netherlands American Cemetery in Margraten, South Limburg. According to Dutch news reports, the panels were taken down earlier this year after the Heritage Foundation filed a complaint.

The removed panels paid tribute to African-American soldiers who participated in liberating Europe from Nazi occupation. One panel detailed how approximately one million African-Americans enlisted during World War II, facing a dual struggle—fighting enemy forces abroad while confronting racial discrimination within their own military, including segregated units that often relegated them to non-combat support positions.

Thankfully, the local government in South Limburg is considering installing a temporary exhibit to honor these men. Just think about that for a moment.

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1/ The US Government has quietly removed a memorial to Black soldiers who died in World War II from the Netherlands American Cemetery in Margraten, South Limburg. The move follows a complaint from the right-wing Heritage Foundation to the American Battle Monuments Commission. ⬇️

ChrisO_wiki (@chriso-wiki.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T09:23:29.309Z


I’d put this in LBN, but it’s over 12 hours old.

Limburgse Statenleden willen tijdelijke herdenkingsplek voor zwarte bevrijders

NIEUWS
Brief Elf Limburgse partijen willen een gedenkteken voor zwarte Amerikaanse bevrijders, nadat informatiepanelen over hun bijdrage op de begraafplaats in Margraten zijn verwijderd.

Paul van der Steen
Gepubliceerd op 8 november 2025 Leestijd 1 minuut

Alle vertegenwoordigde partijen in Provinciale Staten van Limburg, met uitzondering van de BBB, de PVV, Forum voor Democratie en Oos Limburg, willen snel onderzocht hebben of er – al dan niet tijdelijk – een gedenkteken kan komen voor zwarte Amerikaanse bevrijders. De elf partijen vragen Gedeputeerde Staten (GS) om met de gemeente Eijsden-Margraten de mogelijkheden te bekijken.

Deze opdracht geven ze mee in statenvragen naar aanleiding van een publicatie van NRC. In de permanente tentoonstelling in het bezoekerscentrum op de begraafplaats zijn twee panelen verdwenen die de bijdrage van Afro-Amerikaanse militairen toelichten. Volgens een woordvoerder van de American Battle Monuments Commission (ABMC) in Parijs gaat het om „rouleren”. Kees Ribbens, senior onderzoeker bij het NIOD Instituut voor Oorlogs-, Holocaust- en Genocidestudies en bijzonder hoogleraar populaire historische cultuur van mondiale conflicten en massaal geweld aan de Erasmus Universiteit Rotterdam, vindt het verwijderen van de gedenkplaten passen bij de aanpak van de regering-Trump, gericht tegen diversiteits- en inclusiebeleid.

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