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Related: About this forumAt stormy cabinet meet, IDF chief said to warn Gaza op will lead to full-fledged occupation
Netanyahu rejects Zamirs push for hostage-truce agreement; far-right ministers reportedly accuse army chief of cowardice for backing a deal over expanded war
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Your decision to conquer Gaza City and afterwards this will lead to the conquest of the refugee camps in central Gaza and then it will be a military government, because there will be no other body that could take responsibility for the population, Zamir was said to have warned.
PM tells cabinet Trump told him not to strike partial deal
Moreover, Netanyahu reportedly told cabinet ministers that US President Donald Trump has urged him not to accept any partial ceasefire and hostage-release deal with Hamas, because it will turn into a sequence of small salami mini-deals, and to instead fight the terror group with full force.
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Netanyahu, the father of phased releases, founder of the selections method, opposes the method that he initiated and the agreement he already approved, the forum said, employing an analogy frequently made by opponents of phased release deals that likens them to selections at Nazi death camps between those conscripted for forced labor and those sent directly to gas chambers.
The truth has come out: This is not a negotiation strategy, its a torpedo strategy and a burial of the deal. Netanyahu is sacrificing the hostages and the soldiers on the altar of his political survival, at a time when an actual deal is on the table, approved by Hamas, that could turn into a framework to return the last of the hostages and end the war.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/at-stormy-cabinet-meet-netanyahu-refuses-idf-chiefs-push-for-vote-on-hostage-deal/
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At stormy cabinet meet, IDF chief said to warn Gaza op will lead to full-fledged occupation (Original Post)
Uncle Joe
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Israeli
(4,473 posts)1. Then there was this .........
Where were you on Oct. 7?: Zamir said to upbraid Netanyahu, ministers at heated meeting
Report says IDF chief warned government that planned op to conquer Gaza City will lead to a military government in the Strip, as army starts calling up 60,000 reserve soldiers
The head of the military reportedly upbraided Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other assembled lawmakers during a contentious meeting Sunday night, accusing them of only now deciding to seriously tackle the Hamas terror group as justification to widen the military campaign and shirk a possible hostage release deal.
The comments from Israel Defense Forces Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Eyal Zamir, reported by Channel 13 news Monday night, underlined the growing rift between the countrys leadership and the commander of its army as the government pushes ahead with a controversial plan to conquer Gaza City rather than pursue a ceasefire arrangement that could see at least half of the remaining hostages freed.
The IDF was set Tuesday to start gradually calling up 60,000 reservists needed for the large-scale operation, despite concerns about manpower and troop fatigue after nearly 23 months of war following the October 7, 2023, Hamas attack.
Good morning, sunshine, Zamir is reported to have told the high-level security cabinet with sarcastic exasperation during the Sunday night meeting. You [were] the cabinet on October 7. Now you remember to talk about defeating Hamas? Where were you on the 7th? The 8th? The 9th? Now you remember, after two years?
Continued @ https://www.timesofisrael.com/where-were-you-on-oct-7-zamir-said-to-upbraid-pm-and-ministers-at-heated-meeting/
Report says IDF chief warned government that planned op to conquer Gaza City will lead to a military government in the Strip, as army starts calling up 60,000 reserve soldiers
The head of the military reportedly upbraided Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other assembled lawmakers during a contentious meeting Sunday night, accusing them of only now deciding to seriously tackle the Hamas terror group as justification to widen the military campaign and shirk a possible hostage release deal.
The comments from Israel Defense Forces Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Eyal Zamir, reported by Channel 13 news Monday night, underlined the growing rift between the countrys leadership and the commander of its army as the government pushes ahead with a controversial plan to conquer Gaza City rather than pursue a ceasefire arrangement that could see at least half of the remaining hostages freed.
The IDF was set Tuesday to start gradually calling up 60,000 reservists needed for the large-scale operation, despite concerns about manpower and troop fatigue after nearly 23 months of war following the October 7, 2023, Hamas attack.
Good morning, sunshine, Zamir is reported to have told the high-level security cabinet with sarcastic exasperation during the Sunday night meeting. You [were] the cabinet on October 7. Now you remember to talk about defeating Hamas? Where were you on the 7th? The 8th? The 9th? Now you remember, after two years?
Continued @ https://www.timesofisrael.com/where-were-you-on-oct-7-zamir-said-to-upbraid-pm-and-ministers-at-heated-meeting/
Israeli
(4,473 posts)2. You remember this warning ?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/ex-supreme-court-chief-aharon-barak-says-he-fears-israel-headed-to-civil-war/
We are getting closer with every passing day .
We are getting closer with every passing day .
Israeli
(4,473 posts)3. Read this :
Fearing Declining Turnout, IDF Fights for Every Reservist Amid Crisis of Faith in Israel's Government
https://archive.md/VxGUu
https://archive.md/VxGUu
The IDF recognizes and understands the growing distress among reservists. Senior military officials say that Chief of Staff Eyal Zamir attempted to avoid such a large-scale mobilization and even proposed operational plans to the government that would not require extensive call-ups, but these were rejected.
Zamir is listening to the rank and file , the reservists and also the tens of thousands taking to the streets .