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Last edited Fri Jun 5, 2026, 02:08 PM - Edit history (3)
I had a rare call with my best friend and immediate superior in Texas two days ago, and asked if things were going well "back there." He said, yeah, great, "it's a pretty good time to be us (present company included)." Well, I know for how many people that is NOT the case, so that put me in a good mood until I got a call from my cardiologist, and he said a routine 24-hour EKG showed up some serious extra heartbeats, and I needed to schedule an angiogram, possibly get an additional stent, or more serious intervention to correct the problem. He said it shouldn't be anything overly drastic, but the extra beats would continue weakening the heart muscle the longer I let it go untreated. I never let things like this drag on. In Germany, a cardiologist has no financial incentive to send me to a cardiac clinic to get procedures done, so I take such diagnoses seriously.
I don't mean to involve the DU board in my own little medical battles, but there are a few people that could conceivably ask what became of me if I should drop off the radar suddenly, and I don't want them badgering my wife about it. If I can get this done soon, and it goes well, I shouldn't be gone long anyway. If something goes wrong and I'm gone longer than expected, at least you will all know why. It will NOT be due to my disgust at some post or seeing some idiot primary result that I think shouldn't have happened, or whatever. Shit happens. If it should turn out NOT to happen to me this time, well, you'll hear no complaints from my end!
hlthe2b
(114,918 posts)German cardiology programs and cardiologists in general is that they are impressive (likewise many of their orthopedists, but that is an aside)...
So, I feel great confidence--as do you-- in the care you have and will receive. Catching it at this stage based on cautious screening of a continuous EKG monitoring, is optimal.
So, I wish you the best and all the healing thoughts and wishes possible. We will be waiting to hear back from you, but now must be YOU time, so concentrate on yourself. Be well and return to "tell the tale."
mwmisses4289
(4,920 posts)Healing vibes coming your way. 🫂
piddyprints
(15,128 posts)Thanks for letting us know. I hope youre back soon.
littlemissmartypants
(34,970 posts)DFW
(60,576 posts)I live with a beautiful tall German who keeps me encouraged
KS Toronado
(23,995 posts)Niagara
(12,318 posts)SheltieLover
(82,154 posts)livetohike
(24,460 posts)issue is easily treated and you can get back to your normal activities worry free
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gademocrat7
(12,053 posts)Sending prayers and strength.
Ilsa
(64,680 posts)hoping for a good outcome if you need to be away for a spell.
markie
(24,091 posts)LuckyCharms
(23,314 posts)2naSalit
(104,251 posts)A good experience and a quick recovery!
róisín_dubh
(12,390 posts)Good luck with the procedure and wishing you a quick recovery, from your friend from across the North Sea in England!
irisblue
(38,047 posts)bottomofthehill
(9,442 posts)Get this taken care of so you can get to cape cod and recover! Please take care of yourself. Modern medicine is amazing.
Best wishes for a quick recovery from a successful procedure!
Hope22
(4,936 posts)Looking forward to hearing from you soon!🙏🏼💗
Lonestarblue
(13,584 posts)Karadeniz
(24,773 posts)ThreeNoSeep
(325 posts)The heart bugaboo has only buzzed me once, so far. Empathy and sympathy, DFW.
mountain grammy
(29,288 posts)Youre in good hands. See you soon!
nuxvomica
(14,327 posts)Wishing you strength and calm as you go through this.
Klondike Kat
(951 posts)Marthe48
(23,625 posts)Let us know how you do!
Diamond_Dog
(41,322 posts)I will be looking forward to hearing from you again soon!
Tetrachloride
(9,749 posts)niyad
(134,680 posts)successful procedure (s), and swift and complete recovery and healing. Then get your butt back here as quickly as you can!
rubbersole
(11,313 posts)A lot of Leo Kottke left to enjoy.
JMCKUSICK
(6,737 posts)Please know we're all here with you.
highplainsdem
(63,431 posts)but cardiac care is so amazing now, and it sounds like you have a great cardiologist there. I'm hoping you'll need only a minimal procedure, with a quick, easy recovery that will seem more like a mini-vacation from your incredibly busy schedule.
Sending hugs for you and your wife.
NNadir
(38,713 posts)I do hope your outcome is excellent as a function of this tech, giving the literal translation of Gesundheit.
In my own case, I'm frankly shocked at procedures available.
Be well.
Hey Joe
(861 posts)Fla Dem
(27,829 posts)You're a good person DFW and we have you and your family in our thoughts. Peace.
Dear_Prudence
(1,202 posts)To take care sooner rather than later. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
FakeNoose
(42,740 posts)Thanks for letting us know! I do look forward to reading your DU posts, so it's reassuring to know the reason why you might be offline for awhile. Take the time to get healthy, and enjoy your month of June.
We'll be thinking of you and waiting to hear of your return.

CrispyQ
(41,143 posts)alwaysinasnit
(5,663 posts)you and your family.
surfered
(14,698 posts)DFW
(60,576 posts)But you're right about the "check engine" light. I ALWAYS pay attention to the "check engine" light. It is being monitored!
question everything
(52,515 posts)Kid Berwyn
(25,283 posts)Get well; and when youre ready, get back in the Good Fight!
BaronChocula
(4,884 posts)Good on you! And good luck.
DFW
(60,576 posts)But in this case Im fairly confident. Its the same combination of teams (new players) as the one that saved my life 22 years ago (I like that), and Im paying cash upon getting the bill (they like that).
So, when the call comes, and theres a slot for me, Ill be there.
BaronChocula
(4,884 posts)Is the out-of-pocket steep?
DFW
(60,576 posts)Last time I was confronted with this, it was 2011. Similar procedures, similar lengths of stay, and the bill for the German hospital was about $12000, where the Dallas bill was originally $36000, but reduced tp $26000 because it was billed to an insurance company instead of to an individual. I had to pay 10% plus the anesthetist. The German bill was way cheaper, but American insurers wont pay for treatment outside of the countryat least mine didnt. My official German residence didnt start until late that year, anyway. Since my yearly premium if I had taken out German health insurance would have been around $35,000 (I asked), Im better off just paying my bills outright. In the fifteen years since I moved my legal residence here, I dont think my medical expenses have been a total of $35000 in that whole time, even if I include this upcoming hospitalization, which they will, I hope, schedule before I drop dead of heart failure.
BaronChocula
(4,884 posts)DFW
(60,576 posts)I was hoping the call would come last week, but it didn´t.
I have to be in France tomorrow and Belgium the day after, and was hoping that maybe my cardiologist had the pull to get me in on Wednesday, but no such luck. That would have been too perfect.............
BaronChocula
(4,884 posts)I hope keeping busy is therapeutic.
DFW
(60,576 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 7, 2026, 05:50 AM - Edit history (1)
The alternative, especially not having a recording studio in the house, would be vegetating all day in front of a TV/video player, or on the phone. A fast track to my own funeral, in all likelihood, and Mother Nature has been doing her level best to accelerate that for over 2 decades now. I rant in rage at the inefficiencies of European public transportation (including trains and planes), but still, being in a different country every day for work beats sitting at home every day in retirement. Even my CEO, the guy who donated the $20+ million for that park in Dallas, and certainly has enough money to retire (he could probably cash in another $200 million after taxes if he and his partner sell the company), told me, "if I stop working, WTF else am I gonna do?" He will be 74 this fall, and is in excellent health.
If I can´t get a date this coming week, the daughter of DUer blm is stopping by for a 4 day visit starting next Sunday, so I won´t be free then, either. My wife and I promised her a visit to a few local sites, so I will be taking a few days off for her, weather permitting. The Neander Valley Museum is a 20 minute drive from our house. It also has a stop on a local commuter train line, but the line doesn´t run through our town:

The museum even has its own special receptionist:

He doesn´t talk much, but gets his point across nonetheless.
**edit--Germany has a complicated health insurance system, but it basically boils down to First Class, maybe 10% of the country, and Second Class, the rest, except for the completely uninsured. "First Class" is called "Privat," which means you get an expensive private insurance company that reimburses you after you pay up front. From what I hear, it usually works out, unless it´s elective, which gets decided (by them, of course) if they will pay it or not. Second Class, which, for example, is what my wife has, like most Germans, means that you´re covered, but they take you when they can and feel like it. If I had had that, I would have been dead in 2004. Here is what happened:
My wife and I took a long weekend in Italy, where I never go for work, and she had never been. I speak Italian, so she didn´t feel at a disadvantage because she didn't speak any Italian. But going up steep hills, I started get short of breath and felt twinges in my shoulder. I knew this to be a danger sign for heart trouble. Both my dad´s parents had died of heart attacks before they were 70, so I had read up on symptoms.
We flew back to Germany on a Saturday, and on Monday, I looked for a cardiologist in our town. There were five or so, so I picked one because it was on a street I knew. I called and asked for an appointment. They said they had an opening in two months. Feeling that my situation might be more imminent, and knowing the German health care insurance system, I then explained that I was from the USA, was passing through "visiting," and would pay cash. Oh, well in that case!! Could I stop by at 5:15 that afternoon? I said yes, and I did.
The cardiologist did an EKG, and said there was definitely something there. He said to come back on Wednesday for a stress-echo test. I did. Halfway through, he said OK, stop, in my office, please. He said he was calling up to the cardiac clinic in Essen (half an hour away by car). He said go home, pack a bag, and have your wife drive you up there. I said I was free in a couple of days. He said, no, you´re not. Go there. NOW. Like immediately. I´ll make sure you´re expected. I asked if it looked THAT bad, and he said it´s not a risk I could afford to take.
So I did as he asked, and my wife drove me to the clinic. They were waiting with a wheelchair. I said they were being dramatic, and I could walk and carry my own suitcase. They said, no, we can´t risk it, get in the wheelchair. I did. The next morning, the big professor came in, looked at my chart, and said clear my schedule, this guy comes on at noon. I was taken down to the OR, and, to spare you the gory details, after putting in the stents, the doc said, OK, NOW I can tell you, you will be alright, but another day, and you might not have survived. He played back the tape of the procedure, and I had two coronary arteries 99% blocked. Then he said the only thing in English I ever heard him say: "Just in time."
The next morning, my wife was called in, and told "the new rules." No red meat, no more cooking with butter, no red wine (I never did anyway), and no eggs (that was later modified to "not too many" ). I was told my new medication schedule, and ordered not to deviate or treat it lightly. I had seen the images of my 99% blocked arteries. He didn't have to tell me twice. My cardiologist of then has since retired, but this is his younger partner, whom he recommended. If he is not panicked, then nor am I. If he DOES start to panic, then I will, too.
BaronChocula
(4,884 posts)99% blockage.
My father may have been done in by his congestive heart failure, and the cause may have been amyloidosis which my late aunt, his sister was diagnosed with.
DFW
(60,576 posts)I didnt experience the warning chest pains that patients with arterial blockage usually do.
Figarosmom
(14,104 posts)And I'm sure you'll be in good hands.
biophile
(1,625 posts)Take care and hope to have you posting here again soon and for a very long time!
Good luck DFW.
Boomerproud
(9,392 posts)LoisB
(13,662 posts)are not farting around about your health.
DFW
(60,576 posts)It has been a macho thing with many men I have known. Not all have survived that attitude.
You don't get a second chance with serious heart issues. I don't intend to fart around.
Old-8643
(45 posts)Good luck to you.
LNM
(1,269 posts)Youre right to have it taken care of now. So many of us dont and then suffer the consequences. It makes me upset with my friends.
red dog 1
(33,614 posts)I hope to see you on DU again soon.
MustLoveBeagles
(17,895 posts)Please take care of yourself.
liberalla
(11,268 posts)I wish you well! With a speedy recovery and a successful result!
Laurelin
(978 posts)Get well soon! ❤️🩹
That´s the goal, anyway!
CaliforniaPeggy
(157,103 posts)We are nowhere near ready to have you vanish!
DFW
(60,576 posts)And Mrs. DFW has the same attitude. You and Lionel are two of the VERY few DUers who have ever met her, so you know from first-hand experience what I am talking about when I say that I will do anything the doctors recommend to make it possible for us to have another 20+ years together.
DFW
(60,576 posts)As well as to those who were thinking about it!
I am not sure I merit that kind of out pouring. The situation is such that despite the local cardiologist's efforts so far, I have not yet been given a date for the cardiac clinic in Essen. This is frustrating, but it's not my place to tell them their schedule. I just keep hoping they'll call, and soon. According to the local cardiologist, I should not expect to keel over due to heart failure in the immediate future, but nor should I let this drag on, either. I did want to let the board know, in case of a worst case scenario. I don't plan on it, I don't hope for it, but just in case Mother Nature overrules me, and all. She didn't get her way 22 years ago, and as the TV ad of 50 years ago reminded everyone, "it's not nice to fool Mother Nature."
Iggo
(50,093 posts)1. Im also a cardiac patient.
2. Youre one of us.
So dont worry about posting this stuff. Thats what were here for.