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maxrandb

(16,853 posts)
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 02:49 PM Wednesday

60 years ago today, The Who blew up The Smothers Brothers Show

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The performance by the Who in 1967 was another defining moment in the series. As the group often did during that period, the Who destroyed their instruments at the conclusion of their performance of "My Generation", with the usual addition of mild explosives for light pyrotechnic effect. The piece ended with guitarist Pete Townshend grabbing Tommy's guitar and smashing it. On the Smothers Brothers show that night a small amount of explosive was put into the small cannon that Keith Moon kept in his bass drum. But it did not go off during the rehearsal. Unbeknownst to Moon, a stage hand had added another explosive before the taping, and later Moon added another charge so that now there were three explosive charges in the cannon instead of one. When Moon detonated it, the explosion was so intense that a piece of cymbal shrapnel cut into Moon's arm; Moon is heard moaning in pain toward the end of the piece. Townshend, who had been in front of Moon's drums at the time, had his hair singed by the blast; he is seen putting out sparks in his hair before finishing the sketch with a visibly shocked Tommy Smothers. The blast contributed heavily to Townshend's long-term hearing loss.

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I think the Marshall stacks might have had something to do with Pete's hearing loss too.
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60 years ago today, The Who blew up The Smothers Brothers Show (Original Post) maxrandb Wednesday OP
Excellent tone from Townshend's guitar. Silent Type Wednesday #1
The Doge team plays music The Blue Flower Wednesday #2
Those were the days. Diamond_Dog Wednesday #3
Pretty Sure Those Amps Are Vox ProfessorGAC Wednesday #4
They were marshall heads (JTM45) Earl_from_PA Wednesday #12
Soory, But The JRM45 Marshalls Were Not Trapezoidal ProfessorGAC Wednesday #13
According to... Earl_from_PA Wednesday #15
I'm Not Disputibg They Used Marshalls ProfessorGAC Wednesday #16
It is entirely possible Earl_from_PA Wednesday #18
At That Time... ProfessorGAC Wednesday #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Wednesday #5
Sunn were the amps justaprogressive Wednesday #6
While It's True Pete Used Sunn Amps... ProfessorGAC Wednesday #7
They used Vox amps during their early US shows maxrandb Wednesday #8
I've Read That ProfessorGAC Wednesday #9
Deep Purple had it at 117db maxrandb Wednesday #10
Definitely! ProfessorGAC Wednesday #11
Do you know when Deep Purple hit 117? Oeditpus Rex Wednesday #17
Sounds a lot like Deep Purple Mk. III Oeditpus Rex Wednesday #14
Mad Magazine did a poem on the Smothers Brothers jmowreader Thursday #20

ProfessorGAC

(74,544 posts)
4. Pretty Sure Those Amps Are Vox
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 04:07 PM
Wednesday

Not Marshall.
That explosion went off about a second & a half after Pete moved to the right.
He might have been badly burned if it had gone off just barely sooner.
We used pyro. We knew to be super careful. We controlled them from onstage so if someone was too close, the guy with his foot on the switch would abort.
It looks cool, but nobody should get hurt for cool.

Earl_from_PA

(291 posts)
12. They were marshall heads (JTM45)
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 08:39 PM
Wednesday

And Electro-Voice cones (loud speakers). Both Townsend and Entwistle favored the EV cones, and Marshall amps. They briefly used Vox in 1965, but were unimpressed with both the volume and reliability. when their van was stolen in '65, they switched to Marshall/EV permanently.

ProfessorGAC

(74,544 posts)
13. Soory, But The JRM45 Marshalls Were Not Trapezoidal
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 08:44 PM
Wednesday

Here's a 1966 available on Reverb.
https://reverb.com/p/marshall-jtm45-mkii-2-channel-45-watt-guitar-amp-head-1963-1966
Look at the Smothers' video right around 28 seconds in. Those amps are clearly not rectangular faces.

ProfessorGAC

(74,544 posts)
16. I'm Not Disputibg They Used Marshalls
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 09:17 PM
Wednesday

Bur, the amps in the video are clearly not Marshalls.
I've got a Marshall so I know what they look like, even though I acknowledge mind isn't a vintage 60s model.
The link to Reverb I added shows what the mid 60s Marshall looked like.
The amps in the video look nothing like that.
Plus, the cabinets have the diamond pattern on the grill cloth that Vox uses to this day.
I am not saying Pete didn't use Marshall.
I'm saying the amps in that Smothers Brothers clip are not Marshalls.
The amp in this link is what we appear to see in that clip, sans the name tag on the faces.
https://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/vintage-vox-1960s-v1142-beatle-amp-w-cabinet-and-trolley-guitar-combo-amp

Earl_from_PA

(291 posts)
18. It is entirely possible
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 09:26 PM
Wednesday

That they used what the show had available, and not their own tour equipment. You may very well be correct. But I know The Who. They both favored Marshall/EV on tour, after the van theft .

ProfessorGAC

(74,544 posts)
19. At That Time...
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 09:32 PM
Wednesday

...they may have used different stuff in the US because of the 110V vs. 220V thing.
Especially for a spot performance on TV.
I know that Tony Iommi had to have Laney amps rebuilt for their first US tour, because there were no American market Laney amps yet.
Of course, Tony made the amp cool, so Laney had demand in the US & started making 110V versions.
Maybe that had something to do with Pete's choice on the Smothers show.

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justaprogressive

(5,495 posts)
6. Sunn were the amps
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 06:00 PM
Wednesday




Southfield High School, Detroit, Michigan, 22 Nov. 1967, with two Sunn 100S amplifiers and 2×15 cabinets, playing a Gibson ES-335. (Photo: Bob Elliott)
(Photo: Bob Elliott)

Beginning in August 1967 and for the early- to mid-1968 North American tours, Pete (and John) used Sunn amplifiers and cabinets, succeeding the use of U.S. Thomas Organ (Vox) Super Beatles, with Sunn 100S amplifiers and cabinets. The first known use of Sunn amps is 23 Aug. 1967 in Flint, Michigan. It’s possible these Sunn 100S amps were purchased on 15 or 16 Aug. 1967, during a two-day break in Nashville.

The Who were first exposed to Sunn amps through the Blues Magoos’ roadie on the July-September 1967 Herman’s Hermits tour, their first of North America.

The Who purchased additional Sunn gear, along with Sunn PA gear, from Manny’s in New York, likely on or around the 25 Nov., 1967, Village Theatre dates in New York. Bobby Pridden had indicated that it was bought a couple days prior to the 29 Nov., 1967, date in Scotch Plains, New Jersey, though footage from the 25 Nov., 1967, Village Theatre gig shows Sunn PA in use. (Pete also purchased Coral Hornet guitars at this time.)

As a part of their use, the Who also provided endorsement for the Sunn gear.

From 8 to 14 July 1968, Pete tried Sunn’s new Orion solid state offering.

The Sunn gear was abandoned at Canadian customs in Toronto on 15 July 1968, at which point Pete began using the Sound City gear previously used only in the UK/Europe.

https://thewho.net/whotabs/gear/pa/pa6768.html

ProfessorGAC

(74,544 posts)
7. While It's True Pete Used Sunn Amps...
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 06:09 PM
Wednesday

...the amps shown in the pics you provided are not the same as those on the Smothers' show.
The heads in that video are trapezoidal. Sunn made rectangular amps.
Also, the grill cloth on the cabinets from the TV show are almost certainly Vox.
Back in the 70s, I played keys in a band with a guy who had a Vox. Looked like those Pete is using.
BTW: that guitar player I knew became a dentist!
Here's a pic with the name plates attached.

maxrandb

(16,853 posts)
8. They used Vox amps during their early US shows
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 06:35 PM
Wednesday

Because of the expense and difficulty to ship and set up the Marshall Stacks.

It's kind of a misnomer, as they didn't use the Marshall Stacks for very long. The truth is that Marshall was one of the first to develop the 100 Watt Amp, mostly because John Entwhistle wanted to be loud enough to be heard over Keith Moon's drumming, which led to Pete wanting to be loud enough to be heard over The Ox and Moon.

It was an arms race after that, but if you saw them when in their prime, you couldn't hear straight for a week after the show.

ProfessorGAC

(74,544 posts)
9. I've Read That
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 06:44 PM
Wednesday

For a long time, they held the record for the loudest rock show.
Don't know who was the 1st to break it, but I remember Kiss holding the crown for a while.
Who knows what act has the record now.

maxrandb

(16,853 posts)
10. Deep Purple had it at 117db
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 06:52 PM
Wednesday

The Who hit 126db at a London show in 1976. Since then, I think AC/DC hit 127db.

Splitting hairs, because 117, 126, or 127 will still leave your ears ringing.

Pete Townshend has said that he thinks most of his hearing loss has come from hours in the studio with headphones...and age.

ProfessorGAC

(74,544 posts)
11. Definitely!
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 07:37 PM
Wednesday

I had my hearing checked January before last.
The results were amazingly good. I could still hear 50dB at 12k. In both ears, with the left ear a bit better.
All those years in a rock band and I'm still in the upper 15% for people my age. Quite surprising.

Oeditpus Rex

(42,757 posts)
14. Sounds a lot like Deep Purple Mk. III
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 09:07 PM
Wednesday

at California Jam. The great thing was, their triple shot went off just to the right of drummer Iain Paice, maybe 10 feet away. Blew off his glasses, but he didn't miss a beat.

(Paice was known for stripping to the waist at some point in the set because he was sweating so much, so I imagine his left side got burned a bit. It was their last song, though, so...)

jmowreader

(52,671 posts)
20. Mad Magazine did a poem on the Smothers Brothers
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 12:21 AM
Thursday

Apparently they were just pissing everyone off, so...

https://www.reddit.com/r/vintageads/comments/18xkhx7/smothers_brothers_parody_ad_by_mad_magazine_1968/#lightbox

You go down the list of all the things the network didn't want them doing, and finally...

Aside from that, boys, do feel free,
To knock 'em dead for ol' C.B.

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