How the Proud Boys invented antifa
How the Proud Boys invented antifa
The far-right gang has been fully absorbed by Trump's White House
By Amanda Marcotte
Senior Writer
Published October 22, 2025 6:45AM (EDT)
(Salon) The first thing to understand about antifa is that it is not real. Yes, as a journalist, Im obligated to offer some throat-clearing nuance: There is a thing called antifa that has existed for a long time, in the sense that there have long been leftists who fight fascism with tactics like outing, public shaming and a very occasional fist to the Nazi nose. But antifa, at least as imagined by President Donald Trump and his MAGA supporters, simply does not exist.
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MAGAs imaginary version of antifa is no different than past urban legends about demonic possession and QAnons claims that Oscar winner Tom Hanks eats childrens brains. But this false conflation between individuals throughout history resisting fascism and terrorism is a deliberate attempt to confuse, just like Trumps ridiculous roundtable on antifa earlier this month. Conspiracy theorist Jack Posobiec, one of the attendees, insisted that antifa is real and there were various iterations that go back to Weimar Republic in Germany.
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Its not an accident that Trump has settled on Portland, Oregon, to stage his real war on the imaginary antifa. As I reported for Salon in 2017, the city was heavily targeted by the Proud Boys and other far-right gangs from the early months of Trumps first administration. They trawled the streets of Portland, Berkeley and other northwestern cities that were seen as progressive strongholds, bearing weapons, harassing residents and otherwise creating a spectacle of violence and chaos. The goal was not subtle: They aimed to be so annoying or threatening that locals would lash out at them. Even the slightest touch from a resident was construed as an attack that was then used to justify street brawls under the ludicrous pretense of self-defense.
The communities picked for this abuse were chosen for demographic reasons. The Proud Boys needed cities with large populations of young, white men from comfortable backgrounds but with leftist politics. Most men of that profile arent interested in getting into fights. But just enough of them do get caught up in masculinist violent fantasies  and are privileged enough to not worry about the consequences  to be interested in throwing punches with fascists. The Proud Boys only needed a handful of 20-year-olds with bandanas and Che Guevara shirts to create chaotic images for iPhone cameras that were disseminated on social media as proof that antifa was real. .................(more)
https://www.salon.com/2025/10/22/how-the-proud-boys-invented-antifa/
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				FalloutShelter
(13,938 posts)Ive been telling this story for years.
Does anyone remember the cosplay ninjas having a street brawl with proud boys on the DC side street on Rumps FIRST Inauguration Day? Remember the reports and search for black umbrella man?
This is where ANTIFA was born.
If I can find any old reports about these Ill post them.
This whole MAGA world is built on hoaxes and control of the MEDIA. 
crud
(1,114 posts)the nazis had a small rally at the capitol building during the felons first term. After the sun went down, they were attacked by black clad youths with baseball bats. There were scuffles and one nazi was stabbed and one person arrested for it. This is all from memory so I might be a little short on details and accuracy...but it was the first time I heard the word Antifa, and wondered who they were.
editing this to add a link...
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-neo-nazi-stabbed-20160626-snap-htmlstory.html
I was roughly correct in my memory,..oh well


