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sop

(15,550 posts)
Thu May 15, 2025, 11:47 AM May 2025

"Arrested judge turns tables on Trump with bold claim citing president's case'

"Wisconsin Judge Hannah Dugan is moving to have the federal charges against her thrown out — and she's citing the very ruling that gave President Donald Trump a presumption of immunity."

"Dugan, who was arrested earlier this year after Trump administration officials alleged she helped Eduardo Flores-Ruiz, a Mexican immigrant in her courtroom on unrelated charges, attempt to escape from federal arrest, was formally charged this week with concealing a person from arrest and obstruction of proceedings."

"According to NBC News, lawyers representing Dugan wrote in response that the whole case was invalid due in part to Trump's win at the Supreme Court last year as he sought to undermine federal charges against him for interfering in the 2020 election."

"'The problems with this prosecution are legion, but most immediately, the government cannot prosecute Judge Dugan because she is entitled to judicial immunity for her official acts,' wrote her legal team 'Immunity is not a defense to the prosecution to be determined later by a jury or court; it is an absolute bar to the prosecution at the outset.' The lawyers explicitly cited the decision by the Supreme Court in Trump v. United States, which held that a president has a presumption of immunity for official acts."

"The attorneys focused on the Supreme Court's holding that 'In dividing official from unofficial conduct, courts may not inquire into the President’s motives.' Because Dugan's instructions within her courtroom constituted official conduct, they concluded, 'Judge Dugan therefore has both immunity from conviction and immunity from prosecution.'"

https://www.rawstory.com/hannah-dugan-2672020436/

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"Arrested judge turns tables on Trump with bold claim citing president's case' (Original Post) sop May 2025 OP
Absolutely a tried and true legal principle - Sovereign immunity bucolic_frolic May 2025 #1
Delicious. littlemissmartypants May 2025 #2
Well this should garner an apopleptic rant from Pam and Karoline... Volaris May 2025 #3
She should declare herself a candidate for president! Grins May 2025 #4

bucolic_frolic

(51,937 posts)
1. Absolutely a tried and true legal principle - Sovereign immunity
Thu May 15, 2025, 11:54 AM
May 2025

It extends to states too. It can be limited by statute or if the state waives it for specific cases. That's my 2 cents worth of legal research today.

Volaris

(10,974 posts)
3. Well this should garner an apopleptic rant from Pam and Karoline...
Thu May 15, 2025, 02:37 PM
May 2025

It'll be fun watching them twist the english language so the immunity applies to trump, but not anyone else (oh and how dare these woke, lawfare lawyers DARE compare this lowly, america-hating judge to His Mighty Orange Holiness, King God-Emperor Soverign Of The Whole Bigly Universe, Donald.).

Grins

(8,729 posts)
4. She should declare herself a candidate for president!
Thu May 15, 2025, 02:41 PM
May 2025

Worked for the multi-indicted and convicted orange felon, amiright SCOTUS?

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