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sop

(17,360 posts)
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 07:33 AM Feb 2025

'More on Trump's Effort to End Basic Medical Research in the United States'

"The NIH released a seemingly down-in-the-weeds new directive which has the effect of drastically reducing the federal funds that go to institutions doing basic medical research...Last night’s directive reduces that stream of funding somewhere between 50% and 75%."

"If this stands, it would mean big drawdowns at institutions across the country doing basic medical research, especially in academic medical centers. I hear some people talk about whole institutions closing down or particular universities just closing down their research work in the affected areas altogether."

"On the why, I think it’s a combination of two things. One is anti-COVID research payback, combined with a general hostility to scientific expertise culture and a general and not-incorrect belief that the kinds of people who work in these institutions are mainly not friendly to Trumpism. Basically, it’s seen as a body blow to blue-state and -city culture. Combined with this is a more structural belief that universities and colleges are institutional loci of opposition to MAGA and Trumpism. So you can knock them out of commission in a broader political and culture war by simply defunding them."

"On a secondary level, once you’ve established that these grants are at the political pleasure of the chief executive, they’re a powerful tool for disciplining these institutions. Criticize President Trump and watch half your budget disappear. This latter model is very much the one pursued by people like Viktor Orbán in Hungary: discipline the universities and bring them under political and patronage control. Putting it all together, it’s very much a move in a broader culture war, seeing universities as the breeding ground of cosmopolitan, liberal, empirical values in the society. So you either destroy them or put them on a tight leash."

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/more-on-trumps-effort-to-end-basic-medical-research-in-the-united-states

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'More on Trump's Effort to End Basic Medical Research in the United States' (Original Post) sop Feb 2025 OP
Good analysis underpants Feb 2025 #1
Medical research now consists of RFK Jr who could not keep a brain worm alive and Norrrm Feb 2025 #2
Destroying our way of life and all liberals. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #3
One of the most dangerous assaults on what makes cachukis Feb 2025 #4
Here in Birmingham, Alabama.... Stuckinthebush Feb 2025 #5
Screwing with the careers of physicians and scientists who have dedicated their lives to research milestogo Feb 2025 #6

Norrrm

(3,952 posts)
2. Medical research now consists of RFK Jr who could not keep a brain worm alive and
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 07:53 AM
Feb 2025

gives anecdotal recommendation for heroin as a study aid.

Research grants will go to Liberty University for prayer healing.

cachukis

(3,655 posts)
4. One of the most dangerous assaults on what makes
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 09:19 AM
Feb 2025

America great.
It is a resentment of intelligentsia.

Stuckinthebush

(11,192 posts)
5. Here in Birmingham, Alabama....
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 10:55 AM
Feb 2025

There is much concern. The university of Alabama at Birmingham is the largest employer in the state and has the largest amount of NIH dollars. UAB expects to lose big based on the decision to reduce indirect cost rates from 55% or 60% to 15%. I know that the administrations of the University of Alabama system in general and UAB specifically are burning up the phones of Tuberville and Britt. Will it do any good? We will see but I think Josh is right that Trump will use this as a way to get consolidations from universities so they won't go against him. UAB will play nice. They have to or hundreds of millions of dollars evaporate from the system, the city, and the state.

The man is evil. Pure evil.

milestogo

(22,495 posts)
6. Screwing with the careers of physicians and scientists who have dedicated their lives to research
Sun Feb 9, 2025, 06:40 PM
Feb 2025

is about as anti-scientific as you can get. And they will push back.

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