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BumRushDaShow

(164,191 posts)
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 05:01 AM 23 hrs ago

Trump threatens strikes on any country he claims makes drugs for US

Source: The Guardian

Tue 2 Dec 2025 16.17 EST
Last modified on Tue 2 Dec 2025 17.14 EST


Donald Trump warned on Tuesday that any country he believes is making drugs destined illegally for the US is vulnerable to a military attack. The US president’s comments came during a question-and-answer session at the White House at which he also said military strikes on land targets inside Venezuela, which he has accused of narco-terrorism, would “start very soon”.

The exchange with reporters followed a lengthy cabinet meeting at which Trump and Pete Hegseth, the defense secretary, moved to put the responsibility with a navy admiral for the extrajudicial killing of two survivors of an attack on an alleged drug smuggling boat in September.

Asked if only Venezuela was in the Pentagon’s crosshairs, Trump said he saw any country producing drugs for contraband as fair game, echoing previous saber-rattling directed at Mexico.

“If they come in through a certain country, or any country, or if we think they’re building mills, whether its fentanyl or cocaine … anybody doing that and selling it into our country is subject to attack. Not just Venezuela,” Trump said, adding that he “heard” Colombia was “making cocaine, they have cocaine plants”.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/02/trump-threatens-strikes-drugs-venezuela

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Trump threatens strikes on any country he claims makes drugs for US (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 23 hrs ago OP
China? lamp_shade 23 hrs ago #1
Yes China is the primary global source of precursor chemicals used to manufacture illegal synthetic drugs, Irish_Dem 23 hrs ago #3
He should go after the Sackler family for getting America hooked on Oxy IronLionZion 20 hrs ago #17
Orange shitler has gone absolutely power mad. niyad 23 hrs ago #2
I think Trump wants the cartels under his control, there is a huge amount of money there. Irish_Dem 22 hrs ago #5
BINGO!!!! johnnyfins 20 hrs ago #11
Exactly. He doesn't care about illegal drugs in the US. Irish_Dem 20 hrs ago #12
"Orange shitler has gone absolutely power mad." BumRushDaShow 21 hrs ago #9
Trump is probably threatening the drug cartels because he wants a cut of the profits. Irish_Dem 22 hrs ago #4
Mobster behavior. yardwork 19 hrs ago #21
Yep he is now a mob boss backed by the US military and all government resources. Irish_Dem 15 hrs ago #29
hey asshole markie 22 hrs ago #6
Without evidence I would imagine no_hypocrisy 22 hrs ago #7
What about the infamous convicted drug trafficker he just pardoned today?? Rhiannon12866 22 hrs ago #8
Yup! Botany 20 hrs ago #15
Right! Traildogbob 16 hrs ago #27
the US too? nt Javaman 20 hrs ago #10
Maybe the cartels will pad his bank account so they can peddle drugs to their heart's content. Vinca 20 hrs ago #13
It's not about drugs; Trump could care fucking less about that. He wants his cut of the action. Protection money. hadEnuf 20 hrs ago #14
He's going to strike the USA? IronLionZion 20 hrs ago #16
Bingo. Watch for a strike near you. twodogsbarking 19 hrs ago #18
Many Americans don't realize drugs are made in their own neighborhoods IronLionZion 19 hrs ago #22
He's distracted us from the Epstein pedophilia with threats of illegal violence and war--a very stable genius. Timeflyer 19 hrs ago #19
But making weapons that can kill an entire classroom full of six year olds in twenty seconds is fine. twodogsbarking 19 hrs ago #20
WTAF? lonely bird 19 hrs ago #23
Let's not fall into the trap of defending drug-exporting countries hueymahl 17 hrs ago #24
So you agree with unilaterally invading a "suspect" country BumRushDaShow 16 hrs ago #25
Of course not hueymahl 11 hrs ago #33
The "straw man" BumRushDaShow 10 hrs ago #34
I don't know where you are pulling this from hueymahl 4 hrs ago #36
This is what you wrote in your reply header BumRushDaShow 1 hr ago #37
How about Afghanistan 2.0, sleepy baby? Aviation Pro 16 hrs ago #26
I seem to remember snowybirdie 16 hrs ago #28
Drugs seems to be an acceptable excuse for most bad things everywhere at any time. walkingman 15 hrs ago #30
He doesn't care about drugs coming into the US, or he wouldn't have pardoned major importer of drugs Attilatheblond 13 hrs ago #31
Why does so much of the drug traffic come to the US ToxMarz 12 hrs ago #32
Why not do something about the DEMAND for drugs and taking some responsibilities for AMERICA'S problem? /nt artemisia1 10 hrs ago #35

Irish_Dem

(78,510 posts)
3. Yes China is the primary global source of precursor chemicals used to manufacture illegal synthetic drugs,
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 05:21 AM
23 hrs ago

most notably fentanyl, which are then distributed to other countries.

These precursors are shipped worldwide, with significant quantities going to Mexico-based transnational criminal organizations (TCOs), such as the Sinaloa Cartel, which then synthesize the chemicals into finished fentanyl and smuggle the drug into the United States.

Of course China is a big source of revenue for the Trump Crime Family.
Trump won't go after China about the drugs.

In fact, Trump probably would demand a cut of the drug profits.

IronLionZion

(50,526 posts)
17. He should go after the Sackler family for getting America hooked on Oxy
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 08:14 AM
20 hrs ago

including his late buddy Rush Limbaugh

Irish_Dem

(78,510 posts)
5. I think Trump wants the cartels under his control, there is a huge amount of money there.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 05:25 AM
22 hrs ago

johnnyfins

(3,321 posts)
11. BINGO!!!!
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 07:38 AM
20 hrs ago

He doesnt give a shit about Americans and dependency. He wants to run the entire market.

Irish_Dem

(78,510 posts)
12. Exactly. He doesn't care about illegal drugs in the US.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 07:41 AM
20 hrs ago

He and his family have been doing them for decades.
He doesn't care if Americans die from overdoses.

He wants control of the drug trade.

BumRushDaShow

(164,191 posts)
9. "Orange shitler has gone absolutely power mad."
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 06:39 AM
21 hrs ago

Not just "power mad", but "completely insane 'mad'". A King George redux.



History is repeating and it took 250 years for this cycle.

Irish_Dem

(78,510 posts)
4. Trump is probably threatening the drug cartels because he wants a cut of the profits.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 05:23 AM
22 hrs ago

He does not care about drug use in the US.

Trump sees that a big source of profit for Putin are the Russian drug and sex rings.
Trump wants the same.

Irish_Dem

(78,510 posts)
29. Yep he is now a mob boss backed by the US military and all government resources.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 12:23 PM
15 hrs ago

And has total immunity for all of his many crimes.

markie

(23,781 posts)
6. hey asshole
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 05:28 AM
22 hrs ago

how 'bout making life better in these united(?) states so we don't require drugs to survive your asshole-ishness??

not you bum.... directed at the man in the story

Traildogbob

(12,296 posts)
27. Right!
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 11:55 AM
16 hrs ago

500 Tons, Fucking Tons of coke into US. And plans to reinstall his a president of the country he shipped it from, as their President. So will He then blow him and that country up? Make the stupid stop, just God Damn the Media.
Anybody says Happy New Year needs a kick in the groin!!!! The New Year will still be under control of this never ending shit.

Vinca

(53,107 posts)
13. Maybe the cartels will pad his bank account so they can peddle drugs to their heart's content.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 07:46 AM
20 hrs ago

That's the only reason I can figure he pardoned the Honduran ex-Pres (the guy who shipped in 500 tons of cocaine and made a comment about stuffing it up American noses).

hadEnuf

(3,487 posts)
14. It's not about drugs; Trump could care fucking less about that. He wants his cut of the action. Protection money.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 08:02 AM
20 hrs ago

He's a criminal and an egomaniac who thinks he's a modern-day Hitler.

IronLionZion

(50,526 posts)
16. He's going to strike the USA?
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 08:11 AM
20 hrs ago

There are meth labs and opioid pill mills all over the US. Find where Melon Husk gets his Ketamine from. It's probably in our country.

IronLionZion

(50,526 posts)
22. Many Americans don't realize drugs are made in their own neighborhoods
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 09:01 AM
19 hrs ago

or they don't want to admit it.

Timeflyer

(3,552 posts)
19. He's distracted us from the Epstein pedophilia with threats of illegal violence and war--a very stable genius.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 08:33 AM
19 hrs ago

twodogsbarking

(17,117 posts)
20. But making weapons that can kill an entire classroom full of six year olds in twenty seconds is fine.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 08:41 AM
19 hrs ago

Well, that's just fine.

hueymahl

(2,876 posts)
24. Let's not fall into the trap of defending drug-exporting countries
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 10:49 AM
17 hrs ago

Trump has played this kind of card before creating 80-20 characterizations of issues.

BumRushDaShow

(164,191 posts)
25. So you agree with unilaterally invading a "suspect" country
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 11:48 AM
16 hrs ago

and destroying "suspect" facilities there?

With all the "pill mills" in operation here, that would open it up for any country to "invade" the U.S. and blow up someone's house or if we have a U.S,-flagged cargo ship loaded with soybeans destined for some location abroad, any country could "claim" that it was "hauling 'drugs'" (or even illegal "weapons" ), and extra-judicially, blow it out of the water.

Everyone is aware of the ridiculous hyperbolic "cards" that they play, but this go-around, it's no longer "hyperbole", and there are repercussions for our actions.

hueymahl

(2,876 posts)
33. Of course not
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 04:58 PM
11 hrs ago

You are creating a straw man here. Trump has masterfully created many 80-20 issues that trigger democrats into taking politically unpopular positions. My point is we should be careful not to fall into his trap of "defending" a country that is exporting illegal drugs. That is a losing popular argument.

BumRushDaShow

(164,191 posts)
34. The "straw man"
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 05:23 PM
10 hrs ago

is your assertion of Democrats being "triggered" by anything that 45 does, with the suggestion that Democrats are "weak on crime", and other nonsense, which is nothing more than a standard RW talking point.

I think we are well past that point now.

There's a difference between demanding accountability before extra-judicial actions are carried out versus "overreacting" to the crap policy decisions or sitting silent and letting such continue.

hueymahl

(2,876 posts)
36. I don't know where you are pulling this from
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 12:22 AM
4 hrs ago

Total mischaracterization Of what I said, followed by a no true Scotsman argument. Do you have any other logical fallacies you want to hit me with?

BumRushDaShow

(164,191 posts)
37. This is what you wrote in your reply header
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 03:14 AM
1 hr ago
Let's not fall into the trap of defending drug-exporting countries


If you meant something else other than finger-wagging at others replying in the OP, then clarify what you were trying to say with THAT comment.

Otherwise, hauling out what are now old and tired "debate" terms to define my response that disagrees with what you wrote, are meaningless, and to use another "debate" term for your reading pleasure, you are doing nothing but "sealioning" now.

snowybirdie

(6,505 posts)
28. I seem to remember
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 12:12 PM
16 hrs ago

That Oxy pills were made and distributed by a nice millionaire USA family. Foisted upon unsuspecting folks by their American doctors. And millions of families destroyed.

walkingman

(10,202 posts)
30. Drugs seems to be an acceptable excuse for most bad things everywhere at any time.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 12:25 PM
15 hrs ago

The political class has used it historically to justify bad behavior since the early 20th Century. First the temperance and anti-opium movement, and then of course the "War on Drugs" in the 70s. It is always used as the root cause of our social problems like crime and poverty. ( I always think of Reagan supporting illegal drugs for Iran/Contra while screaming "Just Say No" )

So here we go again - fight them drugs in Venezuela, in China and mask the real issues like regime change and economic competition.

So the illegality of the US attacking a sovereign nation is ignored and the drug issues become the issue.

It works and has worked for a century - why stop?

Attilatheblond

(7,966 posts)
31. He doesn't care about drugs coming into the US, or he wouldn't have pardoned major importer of drugs
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 03:03 PM
13 hrs ago

He just wants to see videos of shit being blown up and people being killed because Viagra and Melania just aren't doin it for him anymore.

ToxMarz

(2,657 posts)
32. Why does so much of the drug traffic come to the US
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 04:12 PM
12 hrs ago

Because 'we' buy so much more of it than anywhere else. Quit buying it they'll quit sending it.

artemisia1

(1,178 posts)
35. Why not do something about the DEMAND for drugs and taking some responsibilities for AMERICA'S problem? /nt
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 05:49 PM
10 hrs ago
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