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OnlinePoker

(6,063 posts)
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:23 PM Monday

'America, uh... First!': ICE to buy $7.2 million worth of Canadian armored personnel carriers

Source: Independent

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is spending more than $7 million on a fleet of armored vehicles designed to protect occupants against bomb blasts and which can stop a .50 caliber round, according to federal procurement records reviewed by The Independent.

However, the 20 bulletproof personnel carriers ordered by the nation’s deportation agency are not coming from an American manufacturer, but a Canadian company headquartered in Ontario – the province whose recent anti-tariff TV ad so infuriated Donald Trump, the president threatened additional levies on all goods coming in from the country.

On Trump’s first day back in office, he announced his “America First Trade Policy,” calling it “a critical component to national security” that he claimed would lessen America’s “dependence on other countries to meet our key security needs,” and, “above all,” benefit the nation’s workers and businesses.

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ice-immigration-canada-tariffs-armored-vehicles-b2875951.html



These personnel carriers, the Roshel Senator, have been battle tested in Ukraine and stood up very well to Russian drone attacks.
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'America, uh... First!': ICE to buy $7.2 million worth of Canadian armored personnel carriers (Original Post) OnlinePoker Monday OP
Trump and his Traildogbob Monday #1
I gotta ask this question, because i have to understand how congress works. bluestarone Monday #2
Can Ontario slap a revenge tariff on these vehicles? jls4561 Monday #3
And why do they need these specifications: AverageOldGuy Monday #4
I think you're heading in the same direction my mind went slightlv Monday #7
Bingo NC popsdenver Monday #16
Oh dear jaymac Yesterday #19
You see very well. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Yesterday #20
Optics. progressoid Monday #14
Eh, thanks Canada for selling these to our government, when they possibly could know that these will be used against SWBTATTReg Monday #5
Looks To Me MissouriDem47 Monday #6
If Canada does this purr-rat beauty Monday #8
That's rich, coming from a country who elected a 'leader' who threatened to annex us no fewer than 24 times Fords Crackpipe Monday #13
They must be planning on a real amp up Figarosmom Monday #9
Roshel is a small company and there isn't enough of a market in Canada to sustain it. OnlinePoker Monday #12
some poor left peaceful demonstrators popsdenver Monday #17
That's going to piss off Oshkosh Truck. Ellipsis Monday #10
Make them out of cardboard. PLEASE! Wonder Why Monday #11
If Canadian citizens build them popsdenver Monday #18
These are military vehicles Picaro Monday #15

Traildogbob

(12,296 posts)
1. Trump and his
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:34 PM
Monday

Cabinet has a no cap credit card using the taxes paid by us. Two trillion added to dept in 11 months.
Even after ALL the saving by DOGE and Musk and thousands of Fed workers fired.
No a whisper from GQP budget hawks.
Great gig if ya can get it.

bluestarone

(20,918 posts)
2. I gotta ask this question, because i have to understand how congress works.
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:35 PM
Monday

When we win in November of 26, can the house then refuse funding ICE? What would happen then?

jls4561

(2,799 posts)
3. Can Ontario slap a revenge tariff on these vehicles?
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:37 PM
Monday

Or at least hide some stinky cheese under the front seat?

AverageOldGuy

(3,215 posts)
4. And why do they need these specifications:
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 05:55 PM
Monday
designed to protect occupants against bomb blasts and which can stop a .50 caliber round,

slightlv

(7,165 posts)
7. I think you're heading in the same direction my mind went
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 07:11 PM
Monday

when I first read this. I know it's about the hypocrisy of "America First" but my mind immediately went to the militarization of a public law enforcement department. Those carriers are not going to be heading to Venezuela... he's planning on using them against American citizens exercising their right to protest the government... among other reasons. He's not going to be happy until he mows down a bunch of "lefties"... and his maga cultists will be right there beside him, cheering him on.

At least, that's the way *I* see it... YMMV.

SWBTATTReg

(25,916 posts)
5. Eh, thanks Canada for selling these to our government, when they possibly could know that these will be used against
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 06:30 PM
Monday

Americans?

Fords Crackpipe

(125 posts)
13. That's rich, coming from a country who elected a 'leader' who threatened to annex us no fewer than 24 times
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 09:15 PM
Monday

Countries do strange things when their much larger neighbor holds a literal gun to their head.

Historical pretext:

Trump Has Mentioned Annexing Canada at Least 24 Times Since Dec 9 (Interactive Timeline)
https://www.usaboycott.ca/tariffs/annexation-threats-timeline?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=annexation_timeline

Sweden made significant concessions to Germany. While the Allies understood Sweden's strategic plight and were sympathetic
https://1997-2001.state.gov/regions/eur/rpt_9806_ng_sweden.pdf

Figarosmom

(9,293 posts)
9. They must be planning on a real amp up
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 08:10 PM
Monday

If they think they are going to need these.

And why would Canada take the order?

OnlinePoker

(6,063 posts)
12. Roshel is a small company and there isn't enough of a market in Canada to sustain it.
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 09:08 PM
Monday

They have been supporting Ukraine in the war with little to no profit from the units they've provided the Ukrainian military. They are trying to sell these globally and, I guess, ICE came calling.

popsdenver

(1,241 posts)
17. some poor left peaceful demonstrators
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 11:57 PM
Monday

in some Blue City, are going to get a visit from IceMen protected by these vehicles....

popsdenver

(1,241 posts)
18. If Canadian citizens build them
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 11:58 PM
Monday

As much as Trump has screwed the Canadians then I suspect there will be countless manufacturing defects....

Picaro

(2,312 posts)
15. These are military vehicles
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 11:40 PM
Monday

Why does ICE need armor that will stop a .50 caliber round? Armored against bomb blasts?

ICE has to be defunded.

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