Hegseth order on first Caribbean boat strike, officials say: Kill them all
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As two men clung to a stricken, burning ship targeted by SEAL Team 6, the Joint Special Operations commander followed the defense secretarys order to leave no survivors.
The alleged traffickers pose no imminent threat of attack against the United States and are not, as the Trump administration has tried to argue, in an armed conflict with the U.S., these officials and experts say. Because there is no legitimate war between the two sides, killing any of the men in the boats amounts to murder, said Todd Huntley, a former military lawyer who advised Special Operations forces for seven years at the height of the U.S. counterterrorism campaign.
Even if the U.S. were at war with the traffickers, an order to kill all the boats occupants if they were no longer able to fight would in essence be an order to show no quarter, which would be a war crime, said Huntley, now director of the national security law program at Georgetown Law.
Rep. Seth Moulton (D-Massachusetts), a Marine Corps veteran and vocal Trump critic who received a classified briefing from Pentagon officials on the strikes in late October with other members of the House Armed Services Committee said, Mark my words: It may take some time, but Americans will be prosecuted for this, either as a war crime or outright murder.
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sueh
(1,930 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(12,309 posts)mcar
(45,533 posts)Sedona
(3,847 posts)TSF will just pardon anyone he can.
drray23
(8,541 posts)I do not believe for a second our country will do the right thing after we wrestle control of it back from Trump and MAGATS. There will be so much stuff to do to rebuild it that this will be very low in the priority list. Dozens of people will get away for war crimes, corruption and other crimes.
Hugin
(37,195 posts)Theres no justification possible for an action such as this. I am going to guess that some, such as Kelly were aware of it and thats why they made the video. Tantrum Tito and Kegsbreaths subsequent actions were trying to get out in front of it because they knew it was eventually going to come out.
I doubt this was an isolated incident. There were reports of survivors on subsequent strikes being picked up and whisked off. What is their status?
BattleRow
(2,056 posts)popsdenver
(1,156 posts)The Nuremberg Court and trials.........
I guess those SEAL TEAM SIX members thought it was a LAWFUL ORDER/????? BULLSHIT
My opinion of the U.S. Navy Seals has now hit the bottom of the barrel............
All of those involved in the U.S. Navy who participated in any of this, should be court marshaled,
And Trump, His CABAL, Republican Senators, and Republican House Members as well as the Republicans on the U.S. Supreme Court should all be rounded up and sent to the Hague.....
And all of them, all the way up to Trump can't use the excuse 'I was just following orders".....all the NAZI's tried claiming that........and it didn't work.......
D. Spaulding
(434 posts)anyone have one where the article can be read?
Ms. Toad
(38,022 posts)But it does require a free account.
Go to archive.li and paste the URL and it will let you see it without providing an email address.
IronLionZion
(50,484 posts)You can plug any URL into this site and see if it has been archived, or create an archive.
reACTIONary
(6,873 posts)... this sort or enterprise investigative reporting not only is costly, it is increasingly risky and dangerous. Give them some support and sign up for a "free" account.
IronLionZion
(50,484 posts)Irish_Dem
(78,297 posts)This is first degree murder.
reACTIONary
(6,873 posts)Irish_Dem
(78,297 posts)Bayard
(27,993 posts)"Just following orders," is not going to get it. I'm glad Sen. Kelly and company made their video.
reACTIONary
(6,873 posts)Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth gave a spoken directive, according to two people with direct knowledge of the operation. The order was to kill everybody, one of them said.
The elite counterterror group SEAL Team 6 led the attack, according to four people with direct knowledge of the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing sensitive operations.
SEAL Team 6, known formally as Naval Special Warfare Development Group and under JSOC command, conducted the intelligence collection and targeting for this attack and several others, according to two people.
If the video of the blast that killed the two survivors on Sept. 2 were made public, people would be horrified, said one person who watched the live feed.
In briefing materials provided to the White House, JSOC reported that the double-tap, or follow-on strike, was intended to sink the boat and remove a navigation hazard to other vessels not to kill survivors, according to another person who saw the report.
In subsequent strikes on alleged traffickers that left no survivors, the U.S. military has also fired multiple missiles to remove boats from the waterways, several people familiar with the matter said.
El Mimbreno
(815 posts)include removal of moral judgement?
lapfog_1
(31,482 posts)but EVEN if these men were legitimate enemy combatants and HAD fired on US Navy forces before their boat was blown up...
I think it is still a war crime to execute them while they are holding onto pieces of their blown up boat.
Fil1957
(432 posts)war crime. Even the destruction of the submarine which likely WAS transporting drugs is murder and a war crime.
Hope he and the other sick bastards responsible for these crimes get serious prison time. It's the only way this murderous madness is going to stop.
Attilatheblond
(7,919 posts)Just like abusing people in the US until somebody fights back and he declares it's an insurrection and gets him magic powers to just kill people.
The GOP better face reality and impeach/convict the lot of this administration NOW.
Mr. Evil
(3,421 posts)when someone is given a title or position of power, usually one of the first things they do is inflict pain and suffering. In Kegsbreath's case... death. Why? History has borne this out. When was the last time anyone was given a title or position of power and they immediately began to do great beneficial things? One thing I've learned is that you never give a drunk and/or rapist a position of power.
This is our Secretary of Defense.
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1w2pu7.img?w=1200&h=675&m=4&q=89
Did good things. I believe Biden did too.
Gimpyknee
(957 posts)ZDU
(932 posts)Attilatheblond
(7,919 posts)And the military is OK with this? Blackest day for the US in a very long time.
Off to the Hague for the lot of them!
Aviation Pro
(15,122 posts)Murder charges and no immunity for you, you tabless, fucking, failed infantry officer.
And I wouldnt count on a pardon from the Couch Fucker after the fucking pedophile goes horizontal.
Norrrm
(3,561 posts)We have plenty of military muscle to capture these boats without killing all on board and destroying all evidence.... If evidence of the drugs exists.

Blues Heron
(8,089 posts)sheshe2
(95,069 posts)Aaron Rupar
@atrupar.com
Mark my words: It may take some time, but Americans will be prosecuted for this, either as a war crime or outright murder.
âMark my words: It may take some time, but Americans will be prosecuted for this, either as a war crime or outright murder.â
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-11-28T20:37:21.795Z
Evolve Dammit
(21,358 posts)red dog 1
(32,204 posts)Cold blooded murder.
— Just Jack (@just-jack-1.bsky.social) 2025-11-28T23:17:22.118Z
NH Ethylene
(31,270 posts)For following illegal orders.
Evolve Dammit
(21,358 posts)Wiz Imp
(8,374 posts)But it absolutely a Crime Against Humanity.
red dog 1
(32,204 posts)That should be considered a War Crime.
https://democraticunderground.com/100220836027