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BumRushDaShow

(163,990 posts)
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 07:09 AM Friday

Donald Trump Proposes Eliminating Income Tax

Source: Newsweek

Published Nov 28, 2025 at 03:38 AM EST updated Nov 28, 2025 at 05:37 AM EST


President Donald Trump has proposed "almost completely" cutting income tax, which he said could be achieved thanks to the effects of his trade policies.

In a Thanksgiving message delivered from his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida, the president referenced the investment commitments that had been made by other nations, pledges from companies to expand their production presence in the U.S., as well as the revenue accrued from his import taxes.

"Over the next couple of years, I think we'll substantially be cutting—and maybe cutting out completely—income tax," Trump said. "We could be almost completely cutting it because the money we're taking in is going to be so large." Newsweek contacted the White House via email outside of regular hours for comment.

Why It Matters

The administration has several times floated slashing or even abolishing income tax thanks to tariffs, though experts broadly agree that the revenue-generating effects of these policies would be unable to match the nearly $2.7 trillion the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) generated last year through this form of taxation.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-proposes-eliminating-income-tax-11123769



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Donald Trump Proposes Eliminating Income Tax (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Friday OP
Waiting to hear bucolic_frolic Friday #1
But . . . . no_hypocrisy Friday #2
this is just ONE popsdenver Friday #20
The only benefit is we might get to play Running Man with the ultra wealthy for when it crashes. cstanleytech Friday #25
So in other words,a new tax to eliminate payroll taxes eh?? In the end your still taxed. Bengus81 Friday #3
Stupid, simple thinking. marble falls Friday #4
His forte. nt eppur_se_muova Friday #36
That was Trump's plan all along: return to the Gilded Age by replacing the federal income tax with tariff revenue. sop Friday #5
Bingo Picaro Friday #35
maybe cutting out income tax, completely........ Escape Friday #6
if you believe the conservative premise that reducing taxes increases revenue rampartd Friday #7
Even one of the original promoters of that - David Stockman - admitted that it was wrong BumRushDaShow Friday #9
stockman wrote one of the finest descriptions of reaganomics - "the triumph of politics" rampartd Friday #10
In that clip BumRushDaShow Friday #12
"deficits do not matter. reagan proved that." cheney rampartd Friday #13
They don't mind the deficits BumRushDaShow Friday #16
Do you have to tap your heels three times and wear ruby slippers as well? travelingthrulife Friday #19
IOW how to kill our government and let rich turn us back to feudalism. GreenWave Friday #8
Rampant desperation on display, here. Paladin Friday #11
Trump and Republicans popsdenver Friday #22
I've said the same thing since it started AZJonnie Friday #30
This may be the single most idiotic thing he has ever said Wiz Imp Friday #14
the Republicans have wanted popsdenver Friday #23
"cutting income tax, which he said could be achieved thanks to the effects of his trade policies." mdbl Friday #15
"To replace ALL federal taxes would require tariff revenue to increase by 16 to 17 times..." J_William_Ryan Friday #17
Perfect storm. Fire everybody and then eliminate public funding for services travelingthrulife Friday #18
The Simpsons bmichaelh Friday #21
"BTW, how many times has a Democratic President followed to fix the Republican failures in economy." BumRushDaShow Friday #29
What COULD replace it?? nitpicked Friday #24
I guess that wiped the epstein files off the thanksgiving discussion list PSPS Friday #26
He'll do anything to get the wee brains of his magas revved up. ificandream Friday #27
Throwing cake to the MAGAt masses, Bayard Friday #28
trump is delusional LetMyPeopleVote Friday #31
Yeah sure... LudwigPastorius Friday #32
Donnie don't do numbers so good. rsdsharp Friday #33
Just spitballing here BWdem4life Friday #34
Trump's use of tariffs is unconstitutional thought crime Friday #37

no_hypocrisy

(53,910 posts)
2. But . . . .
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 07:15 AM
Friday
IF Trump's premise(s) is correct (it isn't), and all this revenue is flowing into the U.S. Treasury, you would WANT to sustain the Income Tax in order to pay down the $30+ trillion of Debt.

He's going to bankrupt this country like he bankrupted his casinos and left the lenders (banks) with a huge loss.

popsdenver

(1,190 posts)
20. this is just ONE
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 10:15 AM
Friday

of the RepubliCONs wet dreams that they have been working towards for decades.
Now thx to the 2025 crowd, many have come to reality, this is just another one on their list....

cstanleytech

(28,082 posts)
25. The only benefit is we might get to play Running Man with the ultra wealthy for when it crashes.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 11:18 AM
Friday

I wouldn't mind seeing Trump waddling around in an orange suit trying to escape from Dynamo or Fireball.

Bengus81

(9,632 posts)
3. So in other words,a new tax to eliminate payroll taxes eh?? In the end your still taxed.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 07:21 AM
Friday

Here's the real reason,he wants to send Social Security,Medicare,unemployment benefits to the dumpster.

More of P25 that you knew nothing about Trump?

sop

(17,040 posts)
5. That was Trump's plan all along: return to the Gilded Age by replacing the federal income tax with tariff revenue.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 07:24 AM
Friday

rampartd

(3,212 posts)
7. if you believe the conservative premise that reducing taxes increases revenue
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 07:32 AM
Friday

as taxes approach 0 then revenue becomes infinite, enough to pay the debt and send elon to mars.

rampartd

(3,212 posts)
10. stockman wrote one of the finest descriptions of reaganomics - "the triumph of politics"
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 07:45 AM
Friday

but to describe trumpanomics bill blacks "the best way to rob a bank is to own one."

BumRushDaShow

(163,990 posts)
12. In that clip
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 07:53 AM
Friday

he even rails against "borrowing" as an alternative to taxing, and that it would not be "sustainable", and you have 45 bragging about being "the king of debt".

The GOP always tars Democrats as "tax and spend" while ignoring their own "borrow and spend" policies. And when it comes to "cutting spending", the GOP wants to cut ANYTHING that would help people so that it can fall back into the pockets of the wealthy as "lesser taxes", and they can spend on frivolous things like $300 million "ballrooms" or $100K tricked-out ICE SUVs.

BumRushDaShow

(163,990 posts)
16. They don't mind the deficits
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 09:30 AM
Friday

but apparently the "real" fiscal hawks don't like the "debt", which is actually a GOP policy point in order to justify "lower taxes".

The irony is that (D) President Bill Clinton handed Shrub a budget SURPLUS (off the backs of government workers), and away that went thanks to Shrub, with the creation of a monstrosity known as the "Department of Homeland Security", and 2 wars that went on for 20 years!!

Paladin

(32,109 posts)
11. Rampant desperation on display, here.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 07:46 AM
Friday

Fits nicely with the wildly suspicious National Guard shootings in D.C.

Interesting times we live in...

popsdenver

(1,190 posts)
22. Trump and Republicans
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 10:28 AM
Friday

didn't bring the National Guard, Border Patrol, ATF, military, FBI, etc agents to Washington to combat crime,

He installed them to provide a fortress of protection for himself, his CABAL, Republican Senators, House Senators and the Republican Supreme Court Justices. He saw what his J6th crowd did to the capitol when they tried to overthrown the government........and that was only 5,000......he only imagined what could happen if ALL of the people revolted....

Wiz Imp

(8,389 posts)
14. This may be the single most idiotic thing he has ever said
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 08:51 AM
Friday

which may make it the most idiotic thing anyone has ever said.

Total tariff revenue for FY2025 was about $195 million. The highest monthly total was $30 million. Project that over a full year and it's still just $360 million.

The revenue from individual income taxes only was $2.66 Trillion! The revenue from ALL federal taxes was about $5 Trillion!!

Therefore, to replace JUST the individual income tax, would require tariff revenue to increase by 9 times the level of the highest month thus far AND continue at that level for a full year. To replace ALL federal taxes would require tariff revenue to increase by 16 to 17 times the highest monthly level so far and continue at that level.

In other words, the idea that tariff revenue could replace income tax revenue is not just insane, it's BATSHIT INSANE!! CUCKOO BANANAS INSANE!! NEED TO BE LOCKED UP IN A RUBBER ROOM INSANE!!!

popsdenver

(1,190 posts)
23. the Republicans have wanted
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 10:42 AM
Friday

to install a 30-40% VAT tax to all purchases instead. Which is a terribly regressive sales tax to replace the income tax.
It is the perfect we dream for the Uber rich...........they can get taxed on just their purchases, which is a monstrous end to the taxes they pay now to the IRS.......As an added bonus, they pay a fortune for tax accountants and tax lawyers to take care of IRS requirements, which they will no longer have to spend..........
The Republicans point to European countries that have a VAT tax.......leaving out the fact that the VAT tax in those countries provides FREE medical, as well as FREE education, etc. etc. etc. to all their citizens.......And the Republicans certainly won't provide for any of that, if they pull off replacing Income & investment taxes with a VAT tax......
And, they will wipe out all the social programs which is even a bigger bonus for the Uber Rich....Medicare, Medicaid, Snap, medicine,......the list is endless......

mdbl

(7,902 posts)
15. "cutting income tax, which he said could be achieved thanks to the effects of his trade policies."
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 09:14 AM
Friday

Yes, and 2+2=1,000,000,000.

What a dumbass.

Can't wait to see the 20,000% tariffs.

J_William_Ryan

(3,195 posts)
17. "To replace ALL federal taxes would require tariff revenue to increase by 16 to 17 times..."
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 09:41 AM
Friday

Wouldn’t consumers end up paying for such an increase?

If tariffs are a de facto tax, individuals would be paying far much more than they would in income tax.

And the whole point of eliminating income tax is to allow individuals to keep more of their money to invest and save.

Trump is as ignorant as he is insane.

travelingthrulife

(3,994 posts)
18. Perfect storm. Fire everybody and then eliminate public funding for services
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 09:45 AM
Friday

Then install AI robots everywhere.

So replacing a fair income tax with a grossly unfair tariff policy.

And will those AI robots be paying those tariffs?

Putin must be so proud of his little boy.

bmichaelh

(1,057 posts)
21. The Simpsons
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 10:26 AM
Friday

The Simpsons got the future right in some episodes.

In one episode, Bart to the Future, its backstory is that President Trump bankrupts the country.

They do not show Trump as President.

Lisa Simpson is President and is trying to fix Trump's financial messes.

This aired in 2000 before he ran for President.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_to_the_Future

BTW, how many times has a Democratic President followed to fix the Republican failures in economy.

FDR after Hoover
Clinton after George HW Bush
Obama after George W Bush
Biden after Trump
etc.

BumRushDaShow

(163,990 posts)
29. "BTW, how many times has a Democratic President followed to fix the Republican failures in economy."
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 12:48 PM
Friday
FDR after Hoover
Clinton after George HW Bush
Obama after George W Bush
Biden after Trump
etc.


You can add JFK after Dwight Eisenhower too. I know my mom used to occasionally mention that little recession that happened in the '50s (1957 - 1958).



(from here - The Forgotten 1957 Pandemic and Recession)

And get a load of this shit - NYT from 67 years ago -


PRESIDENT SAYS DEMOCRATS SELL 'DOUBT AND FEAR'
___________

In Chicago Address, He Calls Them the Champions of Inflation and Spending
___________

AGAIN SCORES 'RADICALS'
___________

Eisenhower Details Record of Expanding Economy in Urging G.O.P. Victory Eisenhower Charges Democrats With Selling 'Doubt and Fear'



By Felix Belair Jr. special To the New York Times.
Oct. 23, 1958


CHICAGO, Oct. 22-President Eisenhower made another ungloved attack on the Democratic party and its candidates tonight. In an address to Republican precinct workers at the International Amphitheatre here, the President sought to identify the Democratic party as the champion of inflation, "frantically merchandising doubt and fear.". The speech was televised nationally and broadcast to the Midwest area by the Columbia Broadcasting System. To a dinner audience of 4,500 party workers, swollen by standees, the President gave his Administration credit for having prevented an economic recession from becoming a major depression. This was done, he said, while staving off "an avalanche of Federal spending" sponsored by Democrats in Congress.

Democrats Called 'Radicals'

The President charged that the "dominant wing" of the Democratic party was composed of “radicals" and "those of little faith." He said: "The most deceptive notion taught by self-styled liberals is that when the economy starts] to slow up, only a vast outpouring of your tax dollars will pump us out of the trouble."

President Eisenhower read the record of his Administration in: its management of the domestic economy, keeping the nation's defenses strong and keeping it at peace. He then said this was the reason voters would return Republican candidates to state and Congressional offices in next month's elections. The President was interrupted repeatedly by applause during his address. The most prolonged show of approval came when he remarked that spending public funds to finance the nation out of a business recession was like "trying to live on new debts." Another prolonged applause came when, in describing Republican goals in domestic policy, he said that the party's intention was "to help our working men and women drive racketeers and hoodlums out of American labor."

Earlier in the day the President told a meeting of Republican women voters and workers in the Blackstone Hotel here that the country's best chance of remaining at peace and avoiding a major war was to "stay firm and strong and always ready to conciliate." But his chief emphasis in his address tonight was on the need to keep the economy strong. It appeared from the President's talk that his main purpose was to combat a major charge of Democratic candidates that his Administration had brought on the "Eisenhower recession," which began in the summer of 1957.

(snip)


See... that ain't the "Eisenhower" that gets presented today. It's more distilled into his "MIC" remarks and not the rest of what is still a loon GOP type of thinking.

Why does this Oct. 23, 1958 front page of the NYT look like something you'd see today in 2025?



ETA - if you look at that St. Louis Fed BEA graph, there was a recession during the latter part of the Nixon 2nd term/Ford term, before 1976, where Watergate apparently ruled the day but it all still lead to Carter.

nitpicked

(1,561 posts)
24. What COULD replace it??
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 10:57 AM
Friday

VAT? (aka sales tax)

Even on food??

Yet another regressive tax idea, just like tariffs are.

For example, Dollar Tree should now be called a "ten bits or more" store...

Bayard

(28,025 posts)
28. Throwing cake to the MAGAt masses,
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 12:43 PM
Friday

And they will eat it up.

When his scheme fails, he'll appropriate the money for all social programs....Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP. Everything he's been wanting to kill. I would hope this remains trump fantasy.

LudwigPastorius

(13,887 posts)
32. Yeah sure...
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 01:33 PM
Friday

Let's let a felon convicted of fraud formulate our national tax policy.

I'd sooner let the butcher at the grocery remove my appendix.

BWdem4life

(2,896 posts)
34. Just spitballing here
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 02:34 PM
Friday

Maybe a 90% tax on incomes over $1 mil, and no tax on incomes under $100k? lol

thought crime

(1,049 posts)
37. Trump's use of tariffs is unconstitutional
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 07:00 PM
Friday

And even more so if income taxes are eliminated because it would put almost all power to tax in the hands of the Executive branch. The next step would be to make the federal budget a simple slush fund and let the President make all spending decisions. Who needs Congress when you have an all powerful dictator?

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