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BumRushDaShow

(163,890 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:22 PM Friday

Mike Johnson plots revenge for Epstein files humiliation with 'higher threshold' rules change in Congress : report

Source: The Independent

Friday 21 November 2025 13:01 EST


Speaker Mike Johnson is reportedly plotting a change in the rules for the House of Representatives after Democrats — joined by just a few rogue Republicans — forced his hand on a vote to release the government’s files on pedophile financier Jeffrey Epstein, a new report reveals.

The move, reported Friday by Axios, comes after the House passed a discharge petition filed by Reps. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) and Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) to declassify files related to the late convicted sex offender. Johnson had opposed the legislation until Trump gave his blessing.

An individual member can file a discharge petition to force a vote on the floor if a majority of members sign it. Still, only seven discharge petitions — including Epstein — have become law since 1935. But Johnson told Axios that discharge petitions have become “too common” and that he wanted to make them harder to obtain.

“I'd like to see a higher threshold for a lot of these motions. You know, privileged motions, discharge petitions,” added House Majority Leader Steve Scalise to the outlet. This also comes as Rep. Jared Golden (D-Maine) received enough signatures for his discharge petition to restore union rights for federal workers.

Read more: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/mike-johnson-discharge-petition-epstein-b2870068.html



When you can't "win" or even "govern", you "change the rules".
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Mike Johnson plots revenge for Epstein files humiliation with 'higher threshold' rules change in Congress : report (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Friday OP
A rule change would not have stemmed this vote. intheflow Friday #1
"A rule change would not have stemmed this vote." BumRushDaShow Friday #3
Of course Rebl2 Friday #2
Hope it Blowback in his Lying Squeaky Cha Friday #4
He reminds of that Hobbs Cartoon and he is Calvin just pissing on the Constitution and this turbinetree Friday #5
I can't imagine most R's in the House are very happy with Johnson... Why would they not just vote to remove him? hlthe2b Friday #6
Don't be surprised if Mike Johnson's time as Speaker is soon over. patphil Friday #7
What's the basis for predicting there's only 6 more days for the House to be in session this year? onenote Friday #8
You're right, I don't know where I got 6. In any event, I still predict he will be challenged in January. patphil Sunday #19
Your off by 10 from what I found. They have 16 days in session before the year ends Bengus81 Monday #21
According to the House schedule they are in session for 12 more days this year. patphil Monday #24
One can hope ck4829 Monday #20
While I don't usually condone giving wedgies I think he deserves one. twodogsbarking Friday #9
I'm thinking Johnson had more than a few while in school and is suffering from PTSD as result. Uncle Joe Friday #11
It's not school drinking that causes Post Trump Sickness Disorder. Wonder Why Saturday #17
Evidence his real goal was to protect pedophiles. (Plural) Grins Friday #10
speaker johnson keroro gunsou Friday #12
LOL...is that off of Burn Notice? Bengus81 Monday #22
Moses grinder mike... 2naSalit Friday #13
How many humuliations does Johnson want? Is he going for the Guinness record? Bluetus Friday #14
I would guess a rules change would require a majority vote. I doubt if Mikey could find a majority to vote for a change. flashman13 Friday #15
They have to continually rig the system Dem4life1970 Saturday #16
7 in 90 years is "too common" Martin Eden Saturday #18
Instead of plotting revenge Mz Pip Monday #23

BumRushDaShow

(163,890 posts)
3. "A rule change would not have stemmed this vote."
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:13 PM
Friday

Yeah it could have because the draft was sitting in Committee and the Committee majority refused to release it for the full House consideration (debate/amendments/vote).

The Rule allowed the legislation to be forced out of the Committee with 218 signatures (a number that also corresponds to the majority of the members of the House), and it effectively does an end-run around the Committee and the SOH.

Most bills that get assigned to a Committee go there as their "final resting place", where a handful might actually be allowed out on the floor.

The SOH controls the legislative calendar.

turbinetree

(26,804 posts)
5. He reminds of that Hobbs Cartoon and he is Calvin just pissing on the Constitution and this
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:19 PM
Friday

republic whenever he gets a chance......... he withheld all by himself the means of seating a duly elected representative from being sworn in for over 40 days after an election..........and now he wants to perform a rule change...............sounds like his underwear is getting a little tight and twisted...............

hlthe2b

(112,285 posts)
6. I can't imagine most R's in the House are very happy with Johnson... Why would they not just vote to remove him?
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:22 PM
Friday

patphil

(8,538 posts)
7. Don't be surprised if Mike Johnson's time as Speaker is soon over.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:27 PM
Friday

I predict: There's only about 6 more days this year for the House to be in session. Johnson should savor them; he'll be gone in January.

onenote

(45,888 posts)
8. What's the basis for predicting there's only 6 more days for the House to be in session this year?
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:32 PM
Friday

The House Calendar shows the House is in session four days a week for each of the first three weeks of December.

patphil

(8,538 posts)
19. You're right, I don't know where I got 6. In any event, I still predict he will be challenged in January.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 06:44 PM
Sunday

Bengus81

(9,620 posts)
21. Your off by 10 from what I found. They have 16 days in session before the year ends
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 10:45 AM
Monday

So what's happening on the ACA subsidies??

patphil

(8,538 posts)
24. According to the House schedule they are in session for 12 more days this year.
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 08:50 PM
Monday
https://www.house.gov/legislative-activity/2025-11-18

They're done for November, and are in session for 12 days in December.

Uncle Joe

(63,789 posts)
11. I'm thinking Johnson had more than a few while in school and is suffering from PTSD as result.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 06:11 PM
Friday

Grins

(9,132 posts)
10. Evidence his real goal was to protect pedophiles. (Plural)
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 06:05 PM
Friday

Every 13 years is “too common?” (What’s “too common” is the damn “shadow docket!”)

In history, presidents had to court Speakers and leaders of the Senate. They no longer do when faced with toady’s like Johnson.

Johnson has proven to be the most feckless Speaker in the history of the House. The one Speaker willing to cover-up something as heinous as - fucking children. (I meant to say that.). What makes him more despicable is his moralizing, his faux religiousness, and that he is a Constitutional lawyer who ignores its precepts.

Going back to Gingrich I have never had a good thought about Republican Speakers. The internal IN-HOUSE fighting over Boehner, Ryan, McCarthy, Johnson, and whatever Republican follows him is just more proof : Republicans cannot govern.




2naSalit

(99,160 posts)
13. Moses grinder mike...
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 07:35 PM
Friday

Isn't going to be speaker much longer. Marge is probably getting ready to kick him to the curb, she was making noise to that effect a couple days ago.

Bluetus

(2,004 posts)
14. How many humuliations does Johnson want? Is he going for the Guinness record?
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 08:52 PM
Friday

I don't see why any Dem would vote for such a rule change, and I'd figure the usual rogues from the GOP side would oppose it as well.

And seriously? When a majority of representatives say they want a vote on an issue, why should one guy be able to stop that?

flashman13

(1,810 posts)
15. I would guess a rules change would require a majority vote. I doubt if Mikey could find a majority to vote for a change.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:15 PM
Friday

The Republicans must know they will soon be in the majority. They just might like the current rule to remain in place.

Dem4life1970

(1,032 posts)
16. They have to continually rig the system
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 12:46 AM
Saturday

...to jam through their unpopular, undemocratic, ideas.

Changing the rules is the only way they can achieve success because they are only there to serve the 1%. Period. End of story.

Martin Eden

(15,212 posts)
18. 7 in 90 years is "too common"
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 08:17 AM
Saturday

You know what else is too common?

A pathologically lying malignant narcissist becoming president twice in eight years.

A pseudo-Xian lying toadie becoming house speaker, ever.

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