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mahatmakanejeeves

(67,695 posts)
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 12:20 PM Nov 20

Investigators release dramatic images of UPS cargo plane erupting into flames

Source: USA Today

Nation
Investigators release dramatic images of UPS cargo plane erupting into flames

The images are part of the National Transportation Safety Board's preliminary report, released Nov. 20.

Christopher Cann
USA TODAY
Updated Nov. 20, 2025 12:03 p.m. ET

The National Transportation Safety Board released a preliminary report on the deadly crash of a UPS cargo plane in Louisville, Kentucky, that killed 14 people, including three crew members.

The report, released on Thursday, Nov. 20, included a dramatic sequence of images showing the plane's engine erupting into flames.

UPS Flight 2976 was taking off from Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport on Nov. 4 when it crashed and erupted into a deadly ball of fire in an industrial part of Louisville. It was the deadliest crash in UPS history.

The National Transportation Safety Board on Nov. 20 released a preliminary report on the crash of a UPS MD-11 cargo jet in Louisville, Kentucky on Nov. 4. Included were a series of dramatic images of the jet bursting into flames on takeoff.


The National Transportation Safety Board on Nov. 20 released a preliminary report on the deadly crash of a UPS MD-11 cargo jet in Louisville, Kentucky on Nov. 4. Included were a series of dramatic images of the jet bursting into flames on takeoff. National Transportation Safety Board

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This story has been updated to add new information.

Contributing: Olivia Evans and Matthew Glowicki, Louisville Courier Journal

Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/11/20/ntsb-report-ups-cargo-plane-crash-images/87372643007/

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bucolic_frolic

(53,479 posts)
1. Pic #2 that engine flipped upward
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 12:26 PM
Nov 20

Was it bolted on? Framing cracked? Didn't inspections find such failures? (Obviously not).

So it was on fire just as it was becoming airborne on the runway.

Colossal failure of safety and technology and inspections.

mahatmakanejeeves

(67,695 posts)
2. After the crash ...
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 12:42 PM
Nov 20
After the crash, federal investigators examined the left pylon aft mount, a support that helps keep a plane's engine in place, and found evidence of "fatigue cracks in addition to areas of overstress failure," according to the report.

sboatcar

(668 posts)
6. This has been a problem with MD-11/DC-10 since they were designed. Routine maintenance can cause this if not done proper
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 01:07 PM
Nov 20

pimpbot

(1,152 posts)
3. Link to NTSB report
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 12:51 PM
Nov 20
https://www.ntsb.gov/Documents/Prelimiary%20Report%20DCA26MA024.pdf

There are pics of the attachment point. Looks like stress/fatigue failure of the mount. Report also mentions inspection intervals and seems like all required inspections had been done. Next detailed inspection wasn't for some time.

tonekat

(2,414 posts)
5. That certainly explains how the #1 engine
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 01:00 PM
Nov 20

Ended up on the other side of the runway. A lot of pilots on Airliners.net said this is what happened, and it's happened before.

EX500rider

(12,111 posts)
7. Also looks like how the #2 might have stalled out from flame/smoke ingestion and lost power right as they needed it
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 02:03 PM
Nov 20

It looks a lot like AA flight#191 also, but didn't get as high due to lack of power from #2 or #3. Otherwise might have followed the same trajectory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_191

mahatmakanejeeves

(67,695 posts)
8. Failure or loss of part on takeoff: Trans World Airlines (TWA) Flight 529, September 1, 1961
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 02:08 PM
Nov 20
EX500rider has already brought up American Airlines Flight 191, probably the best known example. Chicago has another record setting crash on takeoff.

Wed Sep 3, 2025: On September 1, 1961, the deadliest (at the time) single plane disaster in U.S. history happened.

A bolt fell out as the plane was climbing on departure from Chicago.

TWA Flight 529

Coordinates: 41°46'46.69"N 87°57'29.29"W


A Lockheed L-049 Constellation of Trans World
Airlines, similar to the accident aircraft

Accident
Date: September 1, 1961
Summary: Mechanical failure leading to loss of control
Site: Willowbrook, DuPage County; near Hinsdale, IL
41°46'46.69"N 87°57'29.29"W

Aircraft
Aircraft type: Lockheed L-049 Constellation
Aircraft name: Star of Dublin
Operator: TWA
Registration: N86511
Flight origin: Boston, Massachusetts (BOS)
Stopover: Chicago, Illinois (MDW)
Last stopover: Las Vegas, Nevada (LAS)
Destination: Los Angeles, California (LAX)
Occupants: 78
Passengers: 73
Crew: 5
Fatalities: 78
Survivors: 0



TWA Flight 529 was a Lockheed Constellation L-049 propliner, registration N86511, operating as a scheduled passenger service from Boston, Massachusetts to San Francisco, California. On September 1, 1961, at 02:05 CDT, the flight crashed shortly after takeoff from Midway Airport (ICAO: KMDW) in Chicago, killing all 73 passengers and five crew on board; it was at the time the deadliest single plane disaster in U.S. history.

The accident was investigated by the Civil Aeronautics Board, which concluded its probable cause was the loss of a 5/16 inch bolt which fell out of the elevator control mechanism during the climb from Chicago, resulting in an abrupt pitch up followed by a stall and crash.

Flight history

The four-engine propliner originated in Boston, and after making intermediate stops in New York and Pittsburgh, arrived at Chicago Midway Airport at 01:18 CDT, where a new crew took over, and fuel and oil were added. At 02:00 the flight departed from runway 22, bound for Las Vegas, Nevada, the next stop. Five minutes later, while climbing westbound to 5,000 ft, the aircraft suddenly pitched violently upwards, resulting in an accelerated stall from which the crew was unable to recover. The aircraft crashed into terrain, and left a debris field of 200 by 1,100 feet.

Investigation


Schematic of elevator boost linkage mechanism,
showing location of missing bolt (A)

The CAB investigated the accident, and as the wreckage pieces were reassembled and scrutinized, it became apparent that a critical 5/16 inch AN-175-21 nickel steel bolt was missing in the elevator boost linkage mechanism. By carefully examining and analyzing the various scuff marks and grease patterns near the missing bolt, the CAB investigators concluded that the bolt had fallen out prior to the aircraft's disintegration and collision with the ground, and not as a result of the accident itself. Without the bolt in place, the elevator (when in boost mode), and hence the entire aircraft, would become uncontrollable. This lead the investigators to deduce that the bolt had fallen out, most likely by working itself loose, a short time prior to the beginning of the accident sequence.

The design of the Lockheed Constellation L-049 aircraft allowed the pilots to disable the hydraulic elevator boost and control the elevators manually via direct mechanical linkage. The pilots of the accident flight apparently attempted to revert to manual control as the aircraft began to pitch up, but the design was such that a continuous nose down pressure on the elevators made the shift to manual elevator control mechanically impossible. Thus, according to the CAB's reconstruction of events, as the pilots were desperately applying nose down pressure to avoid a stall, they were also hampering themselves from shifting to manual mode and regaining elevator control.

On December 18, 1962, the CAB published its final report on the accident, concluding that the probable cause was "... the loss of an AN-175-21 nickel steel bolt from the parallelogram linkage of the elevator boost system, resulting in loss of control of the aircraft."

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Tue Sep 3, 2024: On September 1, 1961, the deadliest (at the time) single plane disaster in U.S. history happened.

Fri Sep 1, 2023: On September 1, 1961, the deadliest (at the time) single plane disaster in U.S. history happened.

mahatmakanejeeves

(67,695 posts)
9. American Airlines Flight 191, May 25, 1979
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 02:30 PM
Nov 20
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_25

• 1979 – During takeoff from O'Hare International Airport in Chicago, an engine detached from American Airlines Flight 191, causing a crash that killed 273 people, the deadliest aviation accident in United States history.

American Airlines Flight 191

Coordinates: 42°0'35"N 87°55'45"W


Flight 191 after takeoff, missing its left engine and leaking fuel and hydraulic fluid

Accident
Date: May 25, 1979; 45 years ago
Summary: Loss of control caused by engine detachment and hydraulic failure, due to improper maintenance[1]
Site: Des Plaines, Illinois, U.S.; 42°0'35"N 87°55'45"W
Total fatalities: 273
Aircraft
Aircraft type: McDonnell Douglas DC-10-10

American Airlines Flight 191 was a regularly scheduled domestic passenger flight in the United States from O'Hare International Airport in Chicago, Illinois to Los Angeles International Airport in California. On the afternoon of May 25, 1979, the McDonnell Douglas DC-10-10 operating this flight was taking off from runway 32R at O'Hare when its left engine detached from the wing, causing a loss of control, and the aircraft crashed less than one mile (1.6 km) from the end of the runway. All 258 passengers and 13 crew on board were killed, along with two people on the ground. With 273 fatalities, it is the deadliest aviation accident to have occurred in the United States.

The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) found that, as the aircraft was beginning its takeoff rotation, engine number one (the left engine) separated from the left wing, flipping over the top of the wing and landing on the runway. As the engine separated from the aircraft, it severed hydraulic fluid lines that lock the wing's leading-edge slats in place and damaged a 3-foot (0.9 m) section of the left wing's leading edge. Aerodynamic forces acting on the wing resulted in an uncommanded retraction of the outboard slats. As the aircraft began to climb, the damaged left wing—with no engine—produced far less lift than the right wing, which had its slats still deployed and its engine providing full takeoff thrust. The disrupted and unbalanced aerodynamics of the aircraft caused it to roll abruptly to the left until it was partially inverted, reaching a bank angle of 112°, before crashing in an open field by a trailer park near the end of the runway. The engine separation was attributed to damage to the pylon structure holding the engine to the wing, caused by improper maintenance procedures at American Airlines.

Background

Aircraft


N110AA, the aircraft involved in the accident, photographed at O'Hare five years prior

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Investigation

The disaster and investigation received widespread media coverage. The impact on the public was increased by the dramatic effect of an amateur photo taken of the aircraft rolling that was published on the front page of the Chicago Tribune on the Sunday two days after the crash.

Engine separation


An FAA diagram of the DC-10 engine and pylon assembly indicating the failed aft pylon attach fitting

Witnesses to the crash were in universal agreement that the aircraft had not struck any foreign objects on the runway. In addition, no pieces of the wing or other aircraft components were found along with the separated engine, other than its supporting pylon; this would lead investigators to conclude that nothing else had broken free from the airframe and struck the engine. Hence, the engine/pylon assembly separation could only have resulted from a structural failure. The cockpit instrument panels were damaged so badly that they did not provide any useful information.

During the investigation, an examination of the pylon attachment points revealed some damage done to the wing's pylon mounting bracket that matched the bent shape of the pylon's rear attachment fitting. This meant that the pylon attachment fitting had struck the mounting bracket at some point. This was important evidence, as the only way the pylon fitting could strike the wing's mounting bracket in the observed manner was if the bolts that held the pylon to the wing had been removed. The engine/pylon assembly was supported by something other than the aircraft itself. Therefore, investigators could now conclude that the observed damage to the rear pylon mount had been present before the crash occurred rather than being caused by it.

The NTSB determined that the damage to the left-wing engine pylon had occurred during an earlier engine change at the American Airlines aircraft maintenance facility in Tulsa, Oklahoma, between March 29 and 30, 1979. On those dates, the aircraft had undergone routine service, during which the engine and pylon had been removed from the wing for inspection and maintenance. The removal procedure recommended by McDonnell-Douglas called for the engine to be detached from the pylon before detaching the pylon itself from the wing. However, American, as well as Continental Airlines and United Airlines, had developed a different procedure that saved about 200 working hours per aircraft and "more importantly from a safety standpoint, it would reduce the number of disconnects (of systems such as hydraulic and fuel lines, electrical cables, and wiring) from 79 to 27." This new procedure involved the removal of the engine and pylon assembly as a single unit rather than as individual components. United's implementation involved the use of an overhead crane to support the engine/pylon assembly during removal and re-installation. The method chosen by American and Continental relied on supporting the engine/pylon assembly with a large forklift.

If the forklift had been positioned incorrectly, the engine/pylon assembly would not be stable as it was being handled, causing it to rock like a see-saw and jam the pylon against the wing's attachment points. Forklift operators were guided only by hand and voice signals, as they could not directly see the junction between the pylon and the wing. Positioning had to be extremely accurate, or structural damage could result. Compounding the problem, maintenance work on N110AA did not go smoothly. The mechanics started disconnecting the engine and pylon as a single unit, but a shift change occurred halfway through the job. During this interval, even though the forklift remained stationary, the forks supporting the entire weight of the engine and pylon moved downward slightly due to a normal loss of hydraulic pressure associated with the forklift engine being turned off; this caused a misalignment between the engine/pylon and wing. When work was resumed, the pylon was jammed on the wing, and the forklift had to be re-positioned. Whether damage to the mount was caused by the initial downward movement of the engine/pylon structure or by the realignment attempt is unclear.  Regardless of how it happened, the resulting damage, although insufficient to cause an immediate failure, eventually developed into fatigue cracking, worsening with each takeoff and landing cycle during the eight weeks that followed. When the attachment finally failed, the engine and its pylon broke away from the wing. The structure surrounding the forward pylon mount also failed from the resulting stresses. 

Inspection of the DC-10 fleets of the three airlines revealed that while United's hoist approach seemed harmless, several DC-10s at both American and Continental already had fatigue cracking and bending damage to their pylon mounts caused by similar maintenance procedures.  The field service representative from McDonnell-Douglas stated the company would "not encourage this procedure due to the element of risk" and had so advised American Airlines. McDonnell-Douglas, however, "does not have the authority to either approve or disapprove the maintenance procedures of its customers." 

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[1] Aircraft Accident Report: American Airlines, Inc. DC-10-10, N110AA, Chicago O'Hare International Airport, Chicago, Illinois, May 25, 1979 (PDF) (Report). National Transportation Safety Board. December 21, 1979. NTSB-AAR-79-17. Archived (PDF) from the original on April 22, 2019. Retrieved September 6, 2016.

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Sat May 25, 2024: On this day, May 25, 1979, the deadliest aviation accident in United States history occurred.

Thu May 25, 2023: On this day, May 25, 1979, the deadliest aviation accident in United States history occurred.

Thu May 27, 2021: On May 25, 1979, American Airlines Flight 191 crashed on takeoff.

Sat May 25, 2019: 40 Years Ago Today; American Airlines Flight 191

Sat May 25, 2019: Forty years ago today, American Airlines Flight 191 crashed on takeoff
11. My analysis on this from a FB post
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:47 PM
Nov 20

Last edited Thu Nov 20, 2025, 09:43 PM - Edit history (1)

Man these pictures say so much.

Look at frame 1. The aircraft has just barely lifted off. The engine is still attached and no indication that it is anything other than fully functioning.

Note the position of the hanger right behind the tail. Compare that to frame 2 to see just how quick this happened. At their speed, milliseconds between the 2.

Now frame 2. The aft pylon mount (not engine mount) has failed and the thrust of the engine is rotating it forward and upward around the axis of the forward pylon mount.

Now frame 3. The pylon is fully detached, appears to have penetrated the fuel tanks on the TOP of the wing, releasing fuel and the fire has started.

Frame 4. The engine has probably burned all the fuel in the lines within the pylon and on the engine but it is still spinning and moving air. It propelled itself up over the backbone and landed in the grass off the RIGHT side of the runway instead of the left side where it started out.

Frame 5 shows a left wing engulfed in flames.

Frame 6 shows flashes behind #2, probably a compressor stall from the aft engine ingesting debris from #1 as it departed and crossed up and over the fuselage.

With number 1 departed from the wing and a huge fire in the left wing, these guys were in a world of hurt but had a chance to bring it home. When the second engine failed, they were just along for the ride. Rest easy dudes.

Edited because I initially missed the signs of a #2 compressor stall.

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