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BumRushDaShow

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Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:32 AM Nov 20

Delayed September report shows U.S. added 119,000 jobs, more than expected; unemployment rate at 4.4%

Source: CNBC

Published Thu, Nov 20 2025 8:31 AM EST Updated 3 Min Ago


The U.S. economy added substantially more jobs than expected in September, according to a long-awaited report Thursday from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Nonfarm payrolls increased by 119,000 in the month, up from the 4,000 jobs lost in August following a downward revision. The Dow Jones consensus estimate for September was 50,000. The July total also was revised down to 72,000, a decrease of 7,000 from the prior release.

In addition to the headline jobs number, the BLS said the unemployment rate edged higher to 4.4%, the highest it’s been since October 2021. A broader measure that includes those not looking for jobs or working part-time for economic reasons edged lower to 8%. Average hourly earnings increased 0.2% for the month and 3.8% from a year ago, compared to respective forecasts for 0.3% and 3.7%.

The report ends a data drought on the labor market that began in early September and continued through the record 44-day government shutdown. Agencies including the BLS, the Bureau of Economic Analysis and others were prohibited from collecting or releasing data during the period. This was the first BLS jobs report since the count for August that was released Sept. 5.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/20/jobs-report-september-2025.html



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Delayed September report shows U.S. economy added 119,000 jobs, more than expected; unemployment rate at 4.4%

Published Thu, Nov 20 2025 8:31 AM EST Updated 2 Min Ago


The U.S. economy added substantially more jobs than expected in September, according to a long-awaited report Thursday from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Nonfarm payrolls increased by 119,000 in the month, up from the 4,000 jobs lost in August following a downward revision. The Dow Jones consensus estimate for September was 50,000.

In addition to the headline jobs number, the BLS said the unemployment rate edged higher to 4.4%, the highest it's been since October 2021.

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Published Thu, Nov 20 2025 8:31 AM EST

Nonfarm payrolls were expected to add 50,000 in September, according to the Dow Jones consensus estimate.

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Delayed September report shows U.S. added 119,000 jobs, more than expected; unemployment rate at 4.4% (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 20 OP
Uh huh. NT cstanleytech Nov 20 #1
Nope. twodogsbarking Nov 20 #2
Guessing the revisions down the road will prove these numbers to be a bit manufactured. NoMoreRepugs Nov 20 #3
That is the most stupid shit I think I have heard in a looonnnnngggg time UpInArms Nov 20 #4
Miraculous, magical, and totally believable IronLionZion Nov 20 #5
Sure it did. durablend Nov 20 #6
Graph and Revisions (previous 2 months revised downward by 33,000, so only 86,000 more jobs since last report) progree Nov 20 #7
On One Hand modrepub Nov 20 #8
It's bullshit. They made it all up. travelingthrulife Nov 20 #13
The "Fork in the Road" crap foisted on federal employees BumRushDaShow Nov 20 #14
About 100,000 to 150,000 got their last paycheck 9/30 pat_k Nov 20 #18
LOL RazorbackExpat Nov 20 #9
Bull-shit. hadEnuf Nov 20 #10
No figures comig out of this administration can be trusted. Ritabert Nov 20 #11
More lies. travelingthrulife Nov 20 #12
Some snips from two media reports progree Nov 20 #15
Alert! Alert! Ray Bruns Nov 20 #16
Some parts of the report have been redacted in the interest of national security. twodogsbarking Nov 20 #17

progree

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7. Graph and Revisions (previous 2 months revised downward by 33,000, so only 86,000 more jobs since last report)
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:47 AM
Nov 20
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth

Note August went negative. (June is also negative as previously reported)

Only 193k more jobs in the last 5 months (39k/month average). "Robust hiring" ???

I know, Krasnov Krasnov! (it's obligatory to show we're not stupid like the Fed officials who vote on interest rates and seem to take Krasnovian numbers seriously)

https://bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for July was revised down by 7,000, from +79,000 to +72,000, and the change for August was revised down by 26,000, from +22,000 to -4,000. With these revisions, employment in July and August combined is 33,000 lower than previously reported.

modrepub

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8. On One Hand
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:51 AM
Nov 20

This is good in that the jobs market isn’t as bad as expected (dubious data or later downward revisions being still being possible).

On the other hand, rate cuts to stimulate the economy would not be advisable considering this data. And inflation would be less likely to come down with robust hiring as the data suggests.

Good news/bad news depending upon your position.

BumRushDaShow

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14. The "Fork in the Road" crap foisted on federal employees
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 09:52 AM
Nov 20

didn't really hit the fan until AFTER September 30 (their last day of work for the most part, although I expect the deferred retirements would stagger to later), which would be something reflected in the October report that has been cancelled, and will presumably be rolled into a November report.

progree

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15. Some snips from two media reports
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 12:34 PM
Nov 20
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-labor-market-gained-119000-jobs-in-september-as-unemployment-edged-up-slightly-153908135.html

ADP reporting that the private sector shed 29,000 jobs during the month ((of September -progree))

Once again, a sizable divergence between ADP and BLS. Remember also that ADP is private payrolls while BLS includes government workers federal, state, and local. BLS PRIVATE payrolls was +97k in September.

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/unhelpful-split-verdict-september-jobs-report-makes-fed-next-move-unclear-161612323.html

the unemployment rate on an unrounded basis was 4.44%, which could create concern for some members of the Fed who view a level of 4.5% as cautionary.

Lower immigration is pushing down the supply of workers in the economy, putting the so-called break-even rate — the number of jobs needed to be added to the economy to keep the unemployment rate steady — at a range most Fed officials see between 30,000 and 50,000. The September print of 116,000 trumped that range.

So far this year, the economy has added an average of 76,000 jobs per month, roughly in line with the updated estimates of job creation needed to keep pace with population growth.

But the last 5 months averaged just 39k/month.
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