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BumRushDaShow

(163,904 posts)
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 06:04 AM Thursday

Trump's 28-point Ukraine peace plan catches Congress off guard

Source: The Hill

11/19/25 6:49 PM ET


The Trump administration is renewing a push to end Russia’s war in Ukraine, with a reported 28-point peace plan that caught Kyiv’s supporters in Congress off guard and left at least one Republican warning against what appears to be a largely pro-Moscow proposal.

The plan was reportedly worked out by President Trump’s top envoy for peace negotiations, Steve Witkoff, and a top ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, Kirill Dmitriev, and discussed with only a few top senior Ukrainian officials.

Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova told Russian state media that the ministry had not received any information from the U.S. through official channels related to agreements on Ukraine. Likewise, Ukraine’s top supporters in Congress appeared to be in the dark.

“I don’t know what this 28-point plan is. I’m glad that we’re coming up with a plan,” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a top Trump ally and hawkish supporter of Kyiv, said during an event Wednesday morning hosted by the Center for Strategic and International Studies. But Graham added that any plan must be buoyed by strong U.S. military commitments to Ukraine and measures targeting Putin’s ability to fund the war.

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/international/5614066-trump-28-point-ukraine-peace-plan/

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mwooldri

(10,765 posts)
1. Why do I smell something like a Molotov Ribbentrop pact?
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 06:21 AM
Thursday

While it was a non aggression treaty, it had an agreement to carve up Poland. Obviously it's not the same but it smells like USA and the USSR (sorry, Russia) agreeing to carve up Ukraine.

I hope Zelenskyy protests. And loudly.

lapfog_1

(31,467 posts)
2. The plan would give away ALL of the Donbas region
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 06:28 AM
Thursday

even the parts not in control of Russia.

Donbas makes up around 9 percent of the entire land mass of Ukraine and has around 15% of the population. More importantly, it is the industrial and mineral rich part of Ukraine.

From Wikipedia:
he Donbas region is rich in coal and other key industrial minerals like iron ore, and also contains significant deposits of critical minerals such as lithium, tantalum, strontium, and cesium. Historically a major coal-producing hub, the region is vital for Ukraine's heavy industry and energy production, and also holds reserves of natural gas and salt.

This would be a very bad deal for Ukraine and very good deal for Russia. Lifts Russia sanctions, no war reparations for Ukraine, enforced smaller army for Ukraine with limited weapons... Ukraine would essentially become a client state of Russia again. No NATO, probably no EU membership... all to stop a war that Russia is losing ( the lines are fairly static but Russia is losing the resource and economic war ).

lark

(25,771 posts)
5. Orange surrender monkey proving again that he is 100% Putin's puppet!
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:51 AM
Thursday

Hell no to this plan! The interesting thing will be what the R hawks do.

Dems should vote en masse against this sell out of democracy.

DFW

(59,464 posts)
6. Surrender is always one way to end a conflict
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 09:20 AM
Thursday

It is not usually the solution that finds favor with both sides.

Emrys

(8,815 posts)
7. This anonymously sourced Axios story's going to take days if not weeks to slop around the over-excitable media
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 09:59 AM
Thursday

See this earlier LBN post:

White House Scrambles to Quell Rumors of Russia-Friendly Donbas Proposal - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143568456

angryxyouth

(315 posts)
9. Kompromat
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 10:37 AM
Thursday

There has to be a reason that Krasnov gives into Putin so much. It could be so many things and this week the news added a new one that I would’ve never thought of. A photo or video of shit stain giving a blowjob to Bubba. It was probably a bet for a lot of money during his broke period before the Apprentice. Bunch of guys all standing around laughing. “Hey Donald, I’ll give you $5 million if you blow Bubba.“

Martin68

(26,712 posts)
13. Any "peace plan" from the Trump administration will be a gift of Ukraine territory to Russia, and a
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 02:45 PM
Thursday

partial disarming of Ukraine. Any "peace" they negotiate will lat only until Putin sees an opportunity to get more land.

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