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Bread and Circuses

(1,440 posts)
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:09 PM Nov 16

In Reversal, Trump Says House Republicans Should Vote To Release Epstein Files

Source: Huffington Post

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said House Republicans should vote to release files involving the Jeffrey Epstein case, a startling reversal after previously fighting the proposal.

“We have nothing to hide, and it’s time to move on from this Democrat Hoax perpetrated by Radical Left Lunatics in order to deflect from the Great Success of the Republican Party,” Trump wrote on social media shortly after landing at Joint Base Andrews following a weekend in Florida.

Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-republicans-should-release-epstein-files_n_691a8949e4b0023259f5d7f1



Something is cooking. And it’s trickery .
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In Reversal, Trump Says House Republicans Should Vote To Release Epstein Files (Original Post) Bread and Circuses Nov 16 OP
and this would be AFTER Bondi and Justice were ordered to open investigation stopdiggin Nov 16 #1
Independent Special Counsel Born Free Nov 17 #28
Guess they finished swapping out Clinton Aviation Pro Nov 16 #2
He's only saying that because he's been assured by Blondi that now there's a new investigation MarineCombatEngineer Nov 16 #3
Exactly. This is all a shell game. yellow dahlia Nov 16 #8
100 % Bread and Circuses Nov 16 #13
Except Epstein's estate has files Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 17 #30
Then they should release them unredacted except for the victims names MarineCombatEngineer Nov 17 #32
what got planted? RockCreek Nov 16 #4
Another possibility in the mix...yes. yellow dahlia Nov 16 #10
That heavy casket with Ivana's cremated remains. She was about to testify wasn't she? travelingthrulife Nov 17 #22
That's what I am worried about. BlueKota Nov 17 #34
He can release them tonight. RandySF Nov 16 #5
That's right ! But he wants to see a vote to know the turncoats Bread and Circuses Nov 16 #14
Maybe this is dweller Nov 16 #6
It's time for leakers to do their thing FakeNoose Nov 16 #7
Yup. It would be the moral thing to do FBI and all the other orgs 'protecting' us travelingthrulife Nov 17 #23
Nothing to hide because it has already been hidden Native Nov 16 #9
Absolutely - everything is trickery. yellow dahlia Nov 16 #11
So... Trump evidence destroyed? Other evidence planted for distraction? RockRaven Nov 16 #12
...and the shredders at the DOJ are starting to smoke from working overtime. LudwigPastorius Nov 16 #15
How much of it is still intact? Diamond_Dog Nov 16 #16
All of Epstein's estate material Gordcanuck Nov 17 #25
Trump shredded the docs. SunSeeker Nov 16 #17
Maybe they think they've covered their tracks? Buddyzbuddy Nov 16 #18
I guess the "there are other Donald Trump's out there" bit didn't work. C Moon Nov 17 #19
Trying to get ahead of the curve Deminpenn Nov 17 #20
He says this as the investigation he ordered gets started and the papers can't be released because "squirrel". lark Nov 17 #21
Well, should get a veto proof majority now. THIS could get interesting. bluestarone Nov 17 #24
Ongoing Investigation... AfternoonJoe Nov 17 #26
Making a virtue of necessity Prairie Gates Nov 17 #27
Shame Trump Didn't Get His First Pick to Run This: Matt Gaetz DrFunkenstein Nov 17 #29
This means he has no intention of releasing the files JoseBalow Nov 17 #31
MaddowBlog-Facing defeat, Trump completes dramatic U-turn on Epstein Files Transparency Act LetMyPeopleVote Nov 17 #33
Fraud Waste Abuse purr-rat beauty Nov 17 #35

stopdiggin

(14,783 posts)
1. and this would be AFTER Bondi and Justice were ordered to open investigation
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:13 PM
Nov 16

into Democratic 'involvement' Yeah, sure, Donnie!
"ongoing investigation" ya know ...

Born Free

(1,650 posts)
28. Independent Special Counsel
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 11:06 AM
Nov 17

They need another discharge petition to appoint an independent special counsel to investigate the Epstein files and hold all involved accountable. The only way to get to the bottom of what is going on is to have a truly independent counsel.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,166 posts)
3. He's only saying that because he's been assured by Blondi that now there's a new investigation
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:17 PM
Nov 16

the files won't be released, otherwise he'd be singing a whole different tune.

yellow dahlia

(4,070 posts)
8. Exactly. This is all a shell game.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:25 PM
Nov 16

First of all - he knows there are many Republicans on board, so he gets to pretend they are acting on his prompting.

Second - you're right. Then they get to say -ooops...sorry...we can't support it now because there is this other investigation which prevents us. (You know - the investigation we cooked up.)

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,166 posts)
32. Then they should release them unredacted except for the victims names
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 11:36 AM
Nov 17

and let the chips fall where they may.

BlueKota

(4,957 posts)
34. That's what I am worried about.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 02:21 PM
Nov 17

That, he's having DOJ alter records to frame Democrats while scrubbing away any mention of himself or his party.

And how would anybody prove, that's what they may have done?

FakeNoose

(39,662 posts)
7. It's time for leakers to do their thing
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:25 PM
Nov 16

As more people are investigating and handling these Epstein files, the greater likelihood of LEAKS galore.
I'm ready ... pour it on!



travelingthrulife

(3,949 posts)
23. Yup. It would be the moral thing to do FBI and all the other orgs 'protecting' us
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:33 AM
Nov 17

from this info. Release it all.

RockRaven

(18,488 posts)
12. So... Trump evidence destroyed? Other evidence planted for distraction?
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:29 PM
Nov 16

Or reassurance from Thune that the Senate GrOPers will kill it?

Gordcanuck

(145 posts)
25. All of Epstein's estate material
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:55 AM
Nov 17

which is unredacted and tampered with will surface. All was given to counsel for his victims. Only their discretion can shroud stuff unrelated to exposing Trumpy. Let the games begin…

Buddyzbuddy

(1,949 posts)
18. Maybe they think they've covered their tracks?
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 11:45 PM
Nov 16

Remember, it's the cover up. Bondi, Patel, Bianchi, Bongino, etc., etc. will all be questioned in about 14 months. I think that's within the statute of limitations? Ask whomever is left of Watergate.

As the Felon pardons Maxwell maybe she'll pass Bondi as she goes in through reception.

C Moon

(13,360 posts)
19. I guess the "there are other Donald Trump's out there" bit didn't work.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 01:58 AM
Nov 17

Either that, or they managed to add another Donald Trump into the files.

Deminpenn

(17,198 posts)
20. Trying to get ahead of the curve
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 04:07 AM
Nov 17

I'm sure he's been told that he is going to lose the House vote, probably by a significant, perhaps even veto proof, margin. He'll probably lose the vote in the Senate, too. No congressman or senator wants to go on record supporting Epstein. They can see the mid-term attack ads coming down the pike.

lark

(25,765 posts)
21. He says this as the investigation he ordered gets started and the papers can't be released because "squirrel".
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:28 AM
Nov 17

As always everything he says is a total lie. He knows Bondi will protect him because he has the goods on her.

bluestarone

(20,879 posts)
24. Well, should get a veto proof majority now. THIS could get interesting.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:55 AM
Nov 17

They KNOW if they don't vote yes, they could be in big trouble. (let's hope this backfires bigtime)

AfternoonJoe

(12 posts)
26. Ongoing Investigation...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:19 AM
Nov 17

This will be the excuse. Yes, congress voted to release them. Yes the president signed the bill. We can't release them now because they are now part of an ongoing investigation. That's why they opened up one and are assigning a prosecutor. To appear to be in favor of the release, but not release.

Prairie Gates

(6,911 posts)
27. Making a virtue of necessity
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:37 AM
Nov 17

What a bozo. The vote is to require his Administration to do it, which he could do with a Truth Social post to Bondi.

DrFunkenstein

(8,884 posts)
29. Shame Trump Didn't Get His First Pick to Run This: Matt Gaetz
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 11:14 AM
Nov 17

And can we just add that Trump nominated Brett Kavanaugh, who was credibly accused of sexual assault despite Trump closing the investigation after a few days as dozens of witnesses waited to testify.

JoseBalow

(8,989 posts)
31. This means he has no intention of releasing the files
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 11:35 AM
Nov 17

He's like a toddler, completely transparent and predictable.

LetMyPeopleVote

(173,179 posts)
33. MaddowBlog-Facing defeat, Trump completes dramatic U-turn on Epstein Files Transparency Act
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 01:37 PM
Nov 17

The president has flip-flopped before, but his reversal on a resolution to force disclosure of the Epstein files was dramatic — and born of weakness.

Facing defeat, Trump completes dramatic U-turn on Epstein Files Transparency Act

The president has flip-flopped before, but his reversal on a resolution to force disclosure of the Epstein files was dramatic — and born of weakness. www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...

News Wire - World 🌎 Independent News Network Pro-Democracy (@democracyblue.bsky.social) 2025-11-17T15:08:05.429Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/facing-defeat-trump-completes-dramatic-u-turn-epstein-files-transparen-rcna244338

On Sunday morning, Republican Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky, one of the lead sponsors of the resolution, appeared on ABC News’ “This Week” and predicted “a deluge” of GOP support for the bill. “There could be 100 or more,” the GOP congressman added.

Roughly 12 hours later, the president threw in the towel. In a rant published to his social media platform on Sunday night, Trump issued a statement that began:

House Republicans should vote to release the Epstein files, because we have nothing to hide, and it’s time to move on from this Democrat Hoax perpetrated by Radical Left Lunatics in order to deflect from the Great Success of the Republican Party, including our recent Victory on the Democrat ‘Shutdown.’


....So what happens now? While the legislative process surrounding discharge petitions is complex and burdensome, House Speaker Mike Johnson, who largely controls developments on the floor, agreed last week to get this over with, scheduling a vote for Tuesday, Nov. 18. (The Louisiana Republican had the option of waiting for the discharge petition to fully ripen and punt the vote until after Thanksgiving. By all accounts, Johnson decided instead to rip off the bandage.)

If all goes according to plan, after the House vote on the resolution, the measure would head to the Senate, where its future is uncertain: It would need 60 votes to advance in a chamber where the Senate Democratic conference has 47 members.

If 13 or more Senate Republicans support the bill, it would eventually need the president’s signature. Watch this space.
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