Trump pulling out all the stops to welcome Saudi crown prince for first White House visit since Khashoggi killing
Source: CNN Politics
PUBLISHED Nov 16, 2025, 5:00 AM ET
President Donald Trump is planning to receive Saudi Arabias powerful Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman at the White House this week with all the trappings of a state visit, sources familiar with the matter said, including a welcome ceremony in the morning and a formal dinner in the evening.
Were more than meeting, Trump said late Friday as he flew to Florida for the weekend. Were honoring Saudi Arabia, the Crown Prince.
While the White House has decided to pull out all the stops, the visit cannot be classified as an official state visit as Prince bin Salman is not Saudi Arabias head of state. That position is occupied by his 89-year-old father, King Salman. But the crown prince has assumed almost all day-to-day responsibility for ruling the kingdom, and attends summits and other diplomatic engagements as the countrys leader.
The meetings Tuesday will mark Prince bin Salmans first visit to the White House in more than seven years. Trump has worked to cultivate a close relationship with the kingdoms de facto ruler in the hopes he will decide to establish diplomatic ties with Israel, which would be a major advancement of the presidents signature Abraham Accords a longtime goal of the presidents.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/16/politics/saudi-crown-prince-trump-white-house
Am guessing that "bone saw" will be giving "bone spurs" some "tips".
twodogsbarking
(17,020 posts)Irish_Dem
(78,374 posts)Please do me a favor Prince Bone Saw.
popsdenver
(1,202 posts)recall that his son took down intelligence reports on the members of the Prince's family that were not loyal to the prince, and they all soon disappeared?
Jared was in deep trouble with a 150 million dollar balloon? payment due on one of his crappy building investments, and he made a special trip down to the Prince with a brief case, then turned around and came straight back home with a "Loan" for the 150 Million.........
Irish_Dem
(78,374 posts)Pure psychopath evil. All about money, power, revenge.
popsdenver
(1,202 posts)payment for U.S. etc intel on the family, was just a precursor to what was to follow......Every countries Intel on military capabilities of all the prince's neighboring countries which he gladly paid Jared TWO BILLION DOLLARS to obtain for him....
Of course, Putin received all the information we had, including all intel from every other country, about every country's Military capabilities etc.
And I am sure Trump gave it to him for free.......
At this point, I am confident that NO other country will ever again share their Intel with the U.S. Especially NATO countries.....
Irish_Dem
(78,374 posts)We will never be trusted again.
Foreign governments cannot sit around and wait to make decisions based on Wisconsin voters.
There is no stability or predictability any longer.
America has lost its moral core.
popsdenver
(1,202 posts)I project........ that he will start closing down and bringing home the U.S. military bases in NATO countries which will make Putin overjoyed, and also fortify his quantity of U.S. Military soldiers in case they are needed for when he declares Martial Law........
Irish_Dem
(78,374 posts)Trump gets North and South America.
The dictators have divided up the planet.
popsdenver
(1,202 posts)dividing it up after Desert Storm with 6 different U.S. Oil Companies?
Not if, but when he starts closing down NATO countries U.S. Military bases and installations it will forever win the praise of Putin, and bringing back the entire military personnel to the U.S. will fortify the U.S. Military presence here in the U.S. to use as his enforcement needs, like martial law.......
He will basically open the door to leaving the countries wide open to invasion by Putin with no resistance......
Irish_Dem
(78,374 posts)Trump pulls out of NATO.
Pulls out all US troops.
Putin has a clear shot at Europe.
However there has been a wrinkle in the plan.
The Russian economy is collapsing.
The war, sanctions, corruption, Ukraine destroying oil fields, etc has taken a huge toll on Russia.
I doubt Putin can swing controlling Europe right now.
If he is smart, he is figuring out how to save his own skin.
popsdenver
(1,202 posts)When you corner a Psychopath that is also Narcissistic and they think it is the end of their situation, I worry that they would what they would do on the way out.......LIKE, "AN I'LL SHOW YOU"......and having complete control of nuclear weapons at their fingertips.........
Not just Putin, but the dictator/tyrant leaders of any other country with nuclear weapons.....Including, but not limited to, Israel, China, NKorea, AND.....the USAin particular.....
And with all these military tyrant run countries, all they need do is launch just one nuclear missile......
If ONE goes,....... they all go,......from all over the world.....
Irish_Dem
(78,374 posts)Yes both Putin and Trump are both serious narcissistic psychopaths and quite dangerous.
However I believe there are significant differences in their behavioral pattern and mental status
which impacts a possible end game.
Putin will destroy Ukraine if possible. It has become personal and he has so many sunk costs in the war.
However when Putin is backed into a corner he will go full survival mode.
He will do whatever it takes to stay alive and make a clean getaway.
I believe Putin has escape plans that are somewhat complex and are another topic.
The only reason Putin would not blow up the world as this loads against escape.
His plans involve intact resources and escape locations, and an underground network of protection.
Blowing up the world loads against these plans.
Putin is very shrewd, focused, disciplined. It is 100% certain he has escape plans in place
and will not deviate from his plans and get emotional and stupid.
Trump is an entirely different kettle of fish.
He is a subpar intellect, has dementia, assumes he will be fine no matter what happens.
Hubris is his middle name. He has no escape plans. And no way to implement them effectively.
He is impulsive, foolish, and ruled by revenge fantasies. He is capable of blowing up everything.
I will say here however that Trump is a coward and opportunist. If the end is near he would
be willing to negotiate a favorable outcome for himself. And go peacefully if he can keep his fortune
intact, and no jail time for himself and spawn.
popsdenver
(1,202 posts)All of these leaders, not just Putin and Trump are capable of going out with a "bang" literally, if they are facing complete failure.....
It is easy to picture them saying: "I go, You go" or "I'll show you"........They are all old, close to the end of their putrid lives....what have they got to lose?
But I respect your opinion on the matter.............I_D..............
Irish_Dem
(78,374 posts)That is not my point.
My point is what I think they would actually do based on their clinical profiles,
their psychopathology, cognitive functioning, past behavior, motivations, etc.
This comes from science, facts, data.
Putin might start blowing up things as part of a cool calm thought process to distract
as he retreats to his secure and secret hideaway. His best bet to remain alive is to maintain
a low profile and never be heard from again. We know he will most likely be very angry but
his desire to live will outweigh his violence desires.
Trump could start lashing out yes, but he can be easily manipulated to go quietly.
I am also going to add that I think it very unlikely that American generals will
act on Trump's orders to blow up the world. Even MAGA generals.
This comes from my years as a military kid and understanding the military way of thinking.
High ranking US military officers will not start nuking their own country. Not only does it ideologically
go against the grain, they want their cushy retirement funds and luxury lifestyle.
Can't get that if they blow up taxpayers.
That said, predicting human behavior is not a certain science. Too many unknown variables.
And humans are not 100% predictable.
I have been first in medically on a couple of what EMS calls: "I'll Show You" suicides............the persons had shown no previous signs anything was wrong........the friends and family, who in all cases were all made to observe, were all psychologically scarred for life due to the horrific way the people did it.........especially the young children who observed......
Repressed anger, in both cases, was obviously part of the equation.....
It never ceases to amaze me what humans can do to themselves, and especially to others.... some really macabre minds running around out there......
Cheney and Rumsfeld kicked down the door to that universe..... with them, and the U.S. Military and Government not only sanctioning, but giving their approval of horrifically torturing the enemy combatants in Iraq....and Cheney sending in Mercenaries from Black Water? and them probably doing even worse things that we will never know about................
You just never know, and as you said I_D....."Humans are not 100% predictable"
cstanleytech
(28,084 posts)underpants
(194,151 posts)Event tents? At another site?
BumRushDaShow
(164,019 posts)The "East Room", which is actually within the original WH structure and wasn't part of the destroyed "East Wing".
Trump says White Houses East Room will be part of the future entrance of his ballroom
When they destroyed the East Wing, they also took out that roofed the Colonnade that went to it (along with the theater that shared the space). The East Room is on an upper level.
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I expect there is asbestos and other heavy metals still floating around over on that side though.
underpants
(194,151 posts)BumRushDaShow
(164,019 posts)(am guessing since the East Room is apparently on a higher level and 45 wants it to be an entrance to the Waste. Fraud. Abuse. "ballroom", I wouldn't be surprised if they put in a "golden escalator" to ride down to get there
PatSeg
(51,605 posts)GreenWave
(12,102 posts)underpants
(194,151 posts)kacekwl
(8,808 posts)invite every murderous dictator to the White House at one time. Leave a" donation" box at the end of the red carpet. The more you donate the more state secrets and classified information you get. trump in turn gets hotels and golf courses all over the world for his legacy.
Norrrm
(3,579 posts)twodogsbarking
(17,020 posts)watertiger
(11 posts)Bayard
(28,033 posts)twodogsbarking
(17,020 posts)republianmushroom
(22,122 posts)twodogsbarking
(17,020 posts)popsdenver
(1,202 posts)be presenting Trump the actual saw, framed and under glass, to hang in the trailer trash gawdy decor of his oval office.....
RazorbackExpat
(797 posts)twodogsbarking
(17,020 posts)LudwigPastorius
(13,902 posts)Maybe one of the most savage, though.
eppur_se_muova
(40,610 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(131,512 posts)vapor2
(3,518 posts)SERIOUSLY? Nah, you're honoring your pockets for Saudi real estate
DrFunkenstein
(8,884 posts)He means it. The thought of a bone saw must give Trump a boner. Two psychopaths.
Mysterian
(6,093 posts)Never forget.
ultralite001
(2,331 posts)Never forget...



Thank you, MadDogPAC...
LilElf70
(1,239 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(173,318 posts)Its occasionally tempting to think Trump has hit rock bottom, but then he finds a way to drill a hole in the bottom of the barrel and fall even lower.
Trump scrambles to defend Saudi crown prince in an embarrassing display.
— TheBlackPage (Woke, DEI forever against fascism) (@theblackpage.bsky.social) 2025-11-18T23:31:11.397Z
Itâs occasionally tempting to think Trump has hit rock bottom, but then he finds a way to drill a hole in the bottom of the barrel and fall even lower.
www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-things-happen-saudi-crown-prince-mbs-khashoggi-rcna244681
President Trump brushed aside a reporters question about the role Saudi Arabias crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, played in the death and dismemberment of a Washington Post journalist in 2018, praising the kingdoms de facto ruler in a joint Oval Office appearance that was heavy on flattery. Mr. Trump strongly defended Prince Mohammed, who U.S. intelligence has said ordered the killing of Jamal Khashoggi, the journalist who was killed by Saudi agents. Prince Mohammed has denied involvement.
Almost immediately after the joint event began, Trump praised the Saudi leader for the job hes done in terms of human rights and everything else. Given the horrific human rights record Saudi Arabia has cultivated over the course of many years, the American presidents commendation was appalling.....
But things deteriorated further soon after.
Q: Is it appropriate for your family to be doing business in Saudi Arabia while you're president. Is that a conflict of interest? And your royal highness, the US intel community concluded you orchestrated the brutal murder of a journali---
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-11-18T17:44:41.681Z
TRUMP: Who are you with?
Q: ABC News
TRUMP: Fake news
When a reporter pressed Trump on his obvious conflicts of interest, and the crown prince on intelligence pointing to his role in orchestrating the brutal murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, the Republican interrupted to dismiss ABC News correspondent as fake news.
Moments later, Trump suggested that Khashoggi had it coming.
Trump suggests Khashoggi had it coming: "You're mentioning someone that was extremely controversial. A lot of people didn't like that gentleman that you're talking about. Whether you like him or didn't like him, things happen. But he knew nothing about it. You don't have to embarrass our guest."
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-11-18T17:46:32.144Z
......As for the idea that the reporters question might embarrass Trumps guest, its not the job of the free press to protect the feelings of foreign authoritarians.
Trump soon after whined about a reporter asking the Saudi leader an insubordinate question, as if members of the free press were somehow the crown princes employees.
As the event continued, the American president horsed around with the crown prince as if they were a pair of kids having a good time. Grabbing his guests hand, Trump specifically said: I dont care where that hands been.
Its occasionally tempting to think the Republican has hit rock bottom, but then he finds a way to drill a hole in the bottom of the barrel and fall even lower.