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BumRushDaShow

(160,269 posts)
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 04:29 AM Monday

Utah governor snaps back at 'conflict entrepreneur' Steve Bannon over Kirk shooting response

Source: The Independent

Sunday 14 September 2025 16:45 EDT


Utah’s governor is firing back at Steve Bannon and other Trump allies who are working to inflame passions and encourage rage among Republicans in response to the shooting death of right-wing activist Charlie Kirk.

Governor Spencer Cox appeared on CNN’s State of the Union Sunday, where the Republican responded to criticism leveled against him by Bannon on his War Room podcast last week.

Formerly Donald Trump’s chief White House strategist, Bannon remains an insider in Trump’s orbit and continues to hold many connections to the White House. He’s a fixture at the annual CPAC event in National Harbor, Maryland, and is a leader of the populist and strongman-friendly wing of the Trump-allied conservative movement.

This past week, Bannon derided Cox as a “national embarrassment” as the Utah governor — whose own ties to the GOP fall under more traditional conservative lines through the influence of Mormonism in the state — called for peace and respectful dialogue across the aisle in the wake of Kirk’s assassination on a college campus on Wednesday.

Read more: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/spencer-cox-steve-bannon-charlie-kirk-b2826329.html

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Utah governor snaps back at 'conflict entrepreneur' Steve Bannon over Kirk shooting response (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Monday OP
Cox seems to be torn DFW Monday #1
Bannon is such a sewer rat johnnyfins Monday #2
National embarrassment MaineBlueBear Monday #3
the entire Republican Party gopiscrap Monday #9
"...a leader of the populist and strongman-friendly wing of the Trump-allied conservative movement." OldBaldy1701E Monday #4
Not a joke. Truth Bernardo de La Paz Monday #5
Yes. OldBaldy1701E Monday #6
Yes, you understand the truth behind what you wrote. Bernardo de La Paz Monday #7
That is perfect! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Monday #8
Gov Cox seems decent enough jfz9580m Thursday #10

DFW

(58,941 posts)
1. Cox seems to be torn
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 04:35 AM
Monday

On his own, he calls for peace and respectful dialogue across the aisle. One call from Trump later, and he does a 180°

I would ask which is it, but being a Republican, I'd get a different answer depending on the time of day, and which way the wind is blowing at that moment.

OldBaldy1701E

(9,075 posts)
4. "...a leader of the populist and strongman-friendly wing of the Trump-allied conservative movement."
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 06:19 AM
Monday

BBWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAWhat? 'Strong-man'??

(I hope that was a joke. Because it is, whether the writer knows it or not.)

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,502 posts)
5. Not a joke. Truth
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 07:47 AM
Monday

The truth is not tRump. tRump is not a strong man, he is a "strongman" to some degree. He wants to be autocratic, a dictator, and he is behaving autocratically with limited success and a lot of push back. Desire and reality are not the same thing. tRump is a little senile and not strong.

The truth is Bannon wants him to behave more like a "strongman", despite tRump's physical weakness. Bannon wants tRump to be more authoritarian, more fascist. The Kirk / Bannon wing of the Con moment is very definitely "strongman-friendly".

OldBaldy1701E

(9,075 posts)
6. Yes.
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 08:25 AM
Monday

What I was referring to was the idea that any of them are 'strongmen'.

I think the term they were looking for is 'delusionalmen'...

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,502 posts)
7. Yes, you understand the truth behind what you wrote.
Mon Sep 15, 2025, 08:30 AM
Monday

Along your lines, I sometimes write "wannabe strongman".

jfz9580m

(15,958 posts)
10. Gov Cox seems decent enough
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 01:37 AM
Thursday

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Gov Cox..he seems like one of the nicer Republicans. He reminds me of the Republicans I have met irl..different views but generally nice people.

He is not wrong about social media or the net.
I downloaded and read parts of The Society of the Spectacle on a rec from this journalist I respect called Yasha Levine and it really fits what politics is by now and it’s so bad for reality:

https://files.libcom.org/files/The%20Society%20of%20the%20Spectacle%20Annotated%20Edition.pdf

It certainly explains why irl conflicts are so much rarer than they are online. And irl there is usually some dispute over specific tangible issues-say property rights or men being creeps.

Almost all of my ire is directed at specific wealthy creeps who are trying to (in my book) make free with my stuff. Wtf..I am not a bloody oligarch. I can’t afford that..

But the riling up for no reason is a gift of social media which I agree is a cancer. Ai angers me. It will pick up where social media left off..I saw this thing in Quanta Magazine that was kinda cool..Ai designing physics experiments. I didn’t read it with care but unlike chatbots, that actually looked like cool and realistic use of Ai. I think “brain rot” is likely to become the overused catchphrase of the year..well

I am taking a holiday from the net and cloistering myself up with work, books, my garden and birds and not thinking about the net or rubbish like ai/politics for a few months. Though I may pop on rarely if the sky falls or something..

I wrote a bunch in my journal just in case I ever need it for a complaint.
Maybe not..but I hate being annoyed in my home. I mean come on…I already put up with hideous crap outside my home in societies whose tastes, inclinations and impulses on average make scant sense anywhere. And try to find some common ground. But my home is the one place I go to in order to avoid most people and it really ticks me off when there’s some inexplicable, annoying new drivel in one’s own damn home. Yeesh. Anyway I deleted or will delete any internet trollish posts.

I just keep these in case some day I need them legally -I don’t know some sort of prisoner’s dilemma- I have no patience with the social web or the line between anonymous internet use and one’s actual life blurring. It’s really annoying and creepy for the most part and really annoying-the lack of any sort of sane regulatory structure in this hyperlibertarian creepscape

But I didn’t and don’t want to contribute to the spectacle and will take down any needless vituperations.

Sometimes if I get started on the contemporary tech environment…eh it’s the net..

The thing is while I always liked science, I just use tech-computers, phones, internet, social media-these are the least interesting and most boring uses of tech. I hate having a phone..that means people can reach you and probably make extortionate demands for unclear reasons ha ha ;-/. I an so glad I am anon. I sp don’t get people who are on social media under their own identities..


The internet is dying..wth is an influencer? That’s not a thing..she got it (she’s also from the old school net) so 20 years ago. I have posted it elsewhere but it really gets it:

https://plork.blogspot.com/2005/09/i-am-become-famous.html?m=1

Now everyone wants to be “famous”. Wth? Not irl. Whatever you do online you can’t bring Facebook to people’s lives and streets. That’s weird and creepy. Some sort of world citizen? That would be crazy.

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