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BumRushDaShow

(159,318 posts)
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 04:01 PM Aug 27

Billionaires pay a lower tax rate than the rest of America's taxpayers, new study finds

Source: CBS News

August 27, 2025 / 7:58 AM EDT


The rich are different from other people — and that also applies to the share of their income they pay in taxes, according to a new study from University of California, Berkeley, economists.

The individuals who make up the Forbes 400 list, topped by Tesla CEO Elon Musk with a fortune of $244 billion, paid an average effective tax rate of 24% from 2018 to 2020, compared with a 30% rate for all other U.S. taxpayers, the researchers said in a new paper published in the National Bureau of Economic Research.

The research comes as President Trump's "big, beautiful bill," signed into law on July 4, delivers its largest benefits to the highest-earning Americans through a mix of new and extended tax breaks. Those include raising the estate-tax exemption to $15 million per person, up from about $14 million. The changes build on an earlier tax cut — the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, Mr. Trump's signature first-term legislation. That 2017 law reduced the effective tax rate for the richest Americans from 30% to 24%, the researchers found.

The new findings — from Berkeley economists and noted inequality experts Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman — calculates the tax rate by tallying all income taxes, as well as corporate taxes that are paid by the companies owned by the richest Americans. In other words, it assigns a share of Amazon's corporate taxes to that of Amazon founder Jeff Bezos when calculating his total tax burden. "The economic income of the wealthiest are essentially the profits of the businesses they own," Saez told CBS MoneyWatch in an email. "Jeff Bezos owns about 10% of Amazon, and hence his true economic income is 10% of Amazon's profits."

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/income-taxes-billionaire-tax-rate-irs/



Link to National Bureau of Economic Research PUBLICATION (PDF) - https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w34170/w34170.pdf


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Billionaires pay a lower tax rate than the rest of America's taxpayers, new study finds (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 27 OP
"Going as planned" durablend Aug 27 #1
I'm guessing that they pay close to zero... LakeVermilion Aug 27 #2
And they pay a fraction of a fraction of the Social Security withholding percentage that everyone else pays. Scrivener7 Aug 27 #3
I'm amazed at how they fight to defend this... Shipwack Aug 27 #8
The biggest scandal isn't how little tax they have to pay Uncle Sam FakeNoose Aug 27 #4
And the wealthy are whining about their taxes! Poor babies with the best medical, homes, educations, etc Stargazer99 Aug 28 #24
I smell lawsuit. Disclosing ugly truth is now a felony. twodogsbarking Aug 27 #5
LOL ... old newz live love laugh Aug 27 #6
Big Surprise 🙄 Rebl2 Aug 27 #7
I just heard about another gift to the rich William Seger Aug 27 #9
I'm not rich SickOfTheOnePct Aug 27 #13
Yes, you could benefit some, but the point is, the tax burden is being shifted downward William Seger Aug 27 #14
When ever he talks about BBB he's not talking to the average people Yellowdog-1966 Aug 27 #10
"Ha ha. Sucker proles. Loser proles. Ha ha." - G.O.P. BoRaGard Aug 27 #11
Hey Democrats: Chasstev365 Aug 27 #12
Well...duh! That's been reported for at least a decade now, probably longer. That's not news. Martin68 Aug 27 #15
We've known this, but the public could always use a reminder. Karasu Aug 27 #16
Same as every study on the subject ever? Brainfodder Aug 28 #17
You don't say! jfz9580m Aug 28 #18
yeah, remember how all that excess $$ was supposed to TRICKLE DOWN Skittles Aug 28 #19
"New study finds"? Huh? ReRe Aug 28 #20
Who knew? Ray Bruns Aug 28 #21
24 percent on earnings but so much of what they get is not "earnings" JT45242 Aug 28 #22
G.O.P. greases the skids for the rich BoRaGard Aug 28 #23

Scrivener7

(57,016 posts)
3. And they pay a fraction of a fraction of the Social Security withholding percentage that everyone else pays.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 04:19 PM
Aug 27

Shipwack

(2,831 posts)
8. I'm amazed at how they fight to defend this...
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 05:45 PM
Aug 27

One of the few times I’ve talked about politics with my rightwing brother the subject of Social Security solvency came up. I said that it should be a non-issue, since all that needed to be done was remove the cap on contributions.

You would have thought I’d suggested sacrificing one of his children. I said I didn’t think he had maxed out his payments, but he claimed he did*. I then asked If he made that much money why should he be upset at paying a few hundred more a year? He got beat red and started foaming at the mouth. My mother changed the subject.

*I like to say that my brother is the first person in the family to make enough money to justify (economically, at least) being a Republican.

FakeNoose

(38,492 posts)
4. The biggest scandal isn't how little tax they have to pay Uncle Sam
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 04:20 PM
Aug 27

... it's how they are able to shield their true income and true wealth so that they never have to TELL Uncle Sam how wealthy they really are. There are so many schemes for hiding the one-per-centers' wealth in America (and offshore too) that it's all a huge game to them.

Meanwhile the rest of us (or most of us anyway) live paycheck to paycheck and the tax was already taken out before we ever received the money.

Stargazer99

(3,284 posts)
24. And the wealthy are whining about their taxes! Poor babies with the best medical, homes, educations, etc
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 09:37 AM
Aug 28

William Seger

(11,786 posts)
9. I just heard about another gift to the rich
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 06:02 PM
Aug 27

The Big Fugly Bill raises the SALT (state and local tax deduction) from $10K to $40K. That's got to cut into federal revenue quite a bit, shifting more of the tax burden onto people who don't earn enough to get any advantage from it.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,396 posts)
13. I'm not rich
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 07:03 PM
Aug 27

But I'll certainly benefit from raising the SALT deduction, as will anyone who lives in a high property tax and/or high state income tax area and itemizes.

William Seger

(11,786 posts)
14. Yes, you could benefit some, but the point is, the tax burden is being shifted downward
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 07:37 PM
Aug 27

If you already itemize and pay over $10K SALT, this could save you some, but not as much as those who can deduct $40, so once again, the lion's share of the benefits will go to those who need it the least, and those who could use it the most will instead just get stuck with a bigger share of the debt.

Yellowdog-1966

(56 posts)
10. When ever he talks about BBB he's not talking to the average people
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 06:09 PM
Aug 27

He's talking to his real base, the Billionaires, Bozos & Botox group that pays him for their tax breaks.

Chasstev365

(6,137 posts)
12. Hey Democrats:
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 07:02 PM
Aug 27

Tell Republican voters to their faces that they are CHUMPS!

Ms 13 gangs were not coming to take over, nor was Shira Law, Migrant Caravans, or are trans gender athletes taking over all sports; while Trump was best friends with Epstein, Hilary and the DNC were never running a pedophile ring out of a DC Pizza Parlor, but Fox, hate radio, and the billionaires were laughing at you for being suckers.

This is a winning message!

Martin68

(26,409 posts)
15. Well...duh! That's been reported for at least a decade now, probably longer. That's not news.
Wed Aug 27, 2025, 09:50 PM
Aug 27

Brainfodder

(7,711 posts)
17. Same as every study on the subject ever?
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 01:57 AM
Aug 28

LOL at these clowns and their desperation to not look like the shits that they are?

jfz9580m

(15,926 posts)
18. You don't say!
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 04:12 AM
Aug 28

But they work so hard..I would lay down my life for our billionaire class 🥹

Fuck those creeps

Skittles

(167,043 posts)
19. yeah, remember how all that excess $$ was supposed to TRICKLE DOWN
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 04:38 AM
Aug 28

we all see how THAT worked out, the only TRICKLING going on was the ultra-rich pissing on the working class

ReRe

(11,839 posts)
20. "New study finds"? Huh?
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 05:52 AM
Aug 28

I find no new news here. The real question is why do the people let them get the Hell away with that inequality. Maybe we need to go back and "study" the tale of Robin Hood economics and reprint it's findings. How's about Aesop's fables? Look it, all we ever needed was what we learned in kindergarten, right? Somehow, somewhere, along life's highway, we've ended up with
the "Haves" and the "Have Nots." It just doesn't work on the teeter-totter of life. Too damn much dishonesty, inequality, and morality have brought our Lincoln logs tumbling to the ground. It's allot to attend to. But I sincerely hope we can start with at least honesty and equality as we rebuild this broken society.

JT45242

(3,596 posts)
22. 24 percent on earnings but so much of what they get is not "earnings"
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 07:46 AM
Aug 28

Besides the sixish percent that they do not pay on "earnings" over the cut, there are so many ways to hide earnings to make them nontaxable.

Take stock options then borrow against them...no taxes there for liquid cash.

Add in the little their companies pay in corporate taxes while building wealth and it gets to ridiculously low levels.

BoRaGard

(7,295 posts)
23. G.O.P. greases the skids for the rich
Thu Aug 28, 2025, 08:26 AM
Aug 28

and pisses on the proles who pay the taxes and keep America moving

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