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cliffside

(1,309 posts)
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 08:17 PM Aug 16

Israel prepares to move Palestinians to southern Gaza as Israelis urge mass protest over war

Source: WaPo

"Israel says it is preparing to move Palestinians from combat zones to southern Gaza as plans move ahead for a military offensive in some of the territory’s most populated areas"

August 16, 2025 at 4:37 p.m. EDT

"NAHARIYA, Israel — Israel announced Saturday that it is preparing to move Palestinians from combat zones to southern Gaza as plans move ahead for a military offensive in some of the territory’s most populated areas.

The Israeli military body in charge of humanitarian aid to Gaza, COGAT, said the supply of tents to the territory would resume on Sunday. The military said it had no comment on when the mass movement of Palestinians would begin, but Defense Minister Israel Katz said on social media that “we are now in the stage of discussions to finalize the plan to defeat Hamas in Gaza.”

"...11. more deaths related to malnutrition

Another 11 malnutrition-related deaths occurred in Gaza over the past 24 hours, the territory’s Health Ministry said Saturday, with one child among them. That brings malnutrition-related deaths during the war to 251.
The United Nations is warning that levels of starvation and malnutrition in Gaza are at their highest since the war began. Palestinians are drinking contaminated water as diseases spread, while some Israeli leaders continue to talk openly about the mass relocation of people from Gaza..."



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Israel prepares to move Palestinians to southern Gaza as Israelis urge mass protest over war (Original Post) cliffside Aug 16 OP
They are starving children to death angrychair Aug 16 #1
No starvation according to Netanyahu, so those children and parents in Gaza City better start walking south ... cliffside Aug 16 #2
It's the first step of the ethnic cleansing plan. AloeVera Aug 17 #8
Agree with your post! It is sickening to see our politicians hardly object to what Israel is doing ... cliffside Aug 17 #12
They've been doing that for a while. Months. Building roads with military posts to divide Gaza into sections. AloeVera Aug 17 #16
Building roads/barriers both in Gaza and the West Bank, I'm sure there a lot going behind the scenes, money most cliffside Aug 17 #19
Who are "they"? I think I agree with you fully, but just come out and say it, please. Clarity without bias or hate or Exp Aug 17 #6
Is It Uncomfortable to Starve To Death? DrFunkenstein Aug 18 #21
When I was young adult angrychair Aug 18 #23
Israel to resume supply of tents, shelter gear as it readies to move Gaza City residents cliffside Aug 17 #3
How thoughtful and kind of them. ( SARCASM, obvously) Exp Aug 17 #5
"No, it is NOT genocide!" Exp Aug 17 #4
"Israelis urge mass protest over war" Yah, you gotta see that! "Urge" is such a strong word. Exp Aug 17 #7
The protests are big - hundreds of thousands, in a country of 10 million muriel_volestrangler Aug 17 #9
And they are SO TIMELY! Right on top of the issue!! (SARCASM!!) Exp Aug 17 #10
Happy to see today's action, sadly most of this is for the release of hostages, which is fine don't get me wrong ... cliffside Aug 17 #13
No. Israel would not withdraw nor give up on the ethnic cleansing. AloeVera Aug 17 #18
The Israeli military will be forcing civilians from their homes in northern Gaza? Prairie Gates Aug 17 #11
That's the plan for now :( nt cliffside Aug 17 #14
Gazans Once Escaped To Rafah. Now Israel Is Razing It - Full article, maps and video cliffside Aug 17 #15
They are building the concentration camp complete with guard towers. AloeVera Aug 17 #17
Also building roads in the West Bank to cut off towns, the video posted by a DU member moniss on Friday shows cliffside Aug 17 #20
Post removed Post removed Aug 18 #22

angrychair

(11,076 posts)
1. They are starving children to death
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 08:44 PM
Aug 16

They are starving children to death.

They. Are. Starving. Children. To. Death.

cliffside

(1,309 posts)
2. No starvation according to Netanyahu, so those children and parents in Gaza City better start walking south ...
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:02 PM
Aug 16

might die on the way, but if you make it, there might be tent!

Israel said the supply of tents would resume Sunday (today)





AloeVera

(3,677 posts)
8. It's the first step of the ethnic cleansing plan.
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 04:28 PM
Aug 17

First, there is no way that tents can be set up for well over a million people in short order. And COGAT (aka lying sociopaths central) will ensure that not nearly enough tents will be let in (as they've done with food and medical aid since the beginning). They will suffer outside in the elements yet again.

Israel declared that the UN and other agencies will set up the tents. I assume without asking first. How very entitled and arrogant. The UN will not be a part of any ethnic cleansing operation in any case.

By international law, civilians cannot be moved from their homes unless there is already a fully-functional humanitarian area, with water, food and tents that they can move to. But that has never stopped Israel, has it? People were moved last year from Rafah to Mawasi, basically just a strip of land with no facilities. It was supposed to be a "safe zone" but kept getting bombed nevertheless. Now Mawasi is one of the two areas - the other being Gaza City - that are going to be invaded. And so where do the hundreds of thousands of people from Mawasi go, along with the million or so from Gaza City? Why, ta da - they will go to the new "humanitarian cities" (aka transfer hubs) run by GHF and the IDF, in the Rafah area, right next to the Egypt border - of course!

This whole Gaza City/Mawasi operation is nothing more than the first step in the ethnic cleansing plan. Disguised as "getting Hamas". How many times does Israel have to "get Hamas" and how much longer does it think ANYONE will believe them? Even its own citizens see the lies now. Too bad though that most Israelis are not concerned with the suffering and fate of Palestinians - only with the hostages - and support the ethnic cleansing plan. With a few brave and honourable exceptions, all respect to them and may their numbers increase daily.



cliffside

(1,309 posts)
12. Agree with your post! It is sickening to see our politicians hardly object to what Israel is doing ...
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 07:45 PM
Aug 17

Last edited Sun Aug 17, 2025, 10:58 PM - Edit history (1)

in Gaza and the West Bank.

In addition to displacing residents, destroying building they are building roads to wall off sections of land ... and the world, including many of our elected leaders, are mostly silent.





AloeVera

(3,677 posts)
16. They've been doing that for a while. Months. Building roads with military posts to divide Gaza into sections.
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 09:15 PM
Aug 17

The deliberate destruction of buildings by demolition and bulldozers going on for many months too.

The plan was always transparent for the non-willfully blind and non-complicit.

Speaking of complicity, it's hard not to conclude by now that our leaders in the West are all complicit too. I think there's a lot going on that we have no clue about. It disturbs the hell out of me.

cliffside

(1,309 posts)
19. Building roads/barriers both in Gaza and the West Bank, I'm sure there a lot going behind the scenes, money most
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 11:14 PM
Aug 17

likely is playing a role. Too many not paying attention, disturbs the hell out of me as well.

Exp

(526 posts)
6. Who are "they"? I think I agree with you fully, but just come out and say it, please. Clarity without bias or hate or
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 11:10 AM
Aug 17

political motivation should be respected and not deemed as 'hate speech' anywhere.

DrFunkenstein

(8,811 posts)
21. Is It Uncomfortable to Starve To Death?
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 09:56 PM
Aug 18

“It’s a very cruel, slow death,” according to one pediatrician in Gaza. I'm going to guess he probably knows.

The human heart shrinks to less than half its size from starvation. Starvation usually causes the belly to bloat, as well as nausea and vomiting. Death by infection is highly likely, but eventually the body will just shut down as more and more resources are devoted to keeping the heart and lungs working.

The trauma of watching someone starve to death goes without mentioning, or watching many, many people.

angrychair

(11,076 posts)
23. When I was young adult
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 11:33 PM
Aug 18

I was homeless for a little over a year and would often go a couple days without eating. There were some time though where, over the course of a week, I didn't eat at all and had very little to drink.
I never asked for help or went to a soup kitchen or went out of my way to ask friends. I just didn't eat. I can tell you that 6 days without eating creates some horrible memories and dreams that took me years to come to terms with and overcome.

I'm very comfortable now and I managed to come out of that experience with no addictions or hangups and very limited long term mental and emotional trauma.

I say this as plainly as I can: I cannot even imagine the horrors being experienced by those poor people and dying from hunger and thirst is truly a fate worse than death itself.

cliffside

(1,309 posts)
3. Israel to resume supply of tents, shelter gear as it readies to move Gaza City residents
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 01:14 AM
Aug 17
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-to-resume-supply-of-tents-shelter-equipment-to-gaza-ahead-of-expanded-op/

"Israel announced that it will renew the supply of tents and shelter equipment to Gaza beginning on Sunday, ahead of plans by the military to evacuate the Palestinian civilian population of Gaza City.

Saturday’s announcement came as Israel prepares for a military operation to conquer the Gaza Strip’s largest city, which was approved by the cabinet last week, despite hesitation from the military.

... The Israeli government has instructed the IDF to ready to capture Gaza City, where an estimated one million civilians are sheltering. The civilians will be instructed to head to southern Gaza for their safety, according to officials."


Israel preparing to forcibly displace Palestinians to southern Gaza

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/16/israeli-attack-kills-baby-girl-in-gaza-as-more-palestinians-die-of-hunger






Exp

(526 posts)
7. "Israelis urge mass protest over war" Yah, you gotta see that! "Urge" is such a strong word.
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 11:12 AM
Aug 17

NEVER - EVER - FORGET

muriel_volestrangler

(104,526 posts)
9. The protests are big - hundreds of thousands, in a country of 10 million
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 05:40 PM
Aug 17
Huge crowds gather in Israel calling for hostage deal and end to Gaza war

Hundreds of thousands of people have gathered in Israel to call for an end to the Gaza war and a deal to secure the release of hostages held by Hamas.



The largest crowd was seen in Tel Aviv's "Hostages Square" on Sunday, with the organisers saying the government's plans to seize control of Gaza City risked the lives of around 20 hostages still being held by Hamas.

A one-day national strike - part of wider protests - closed roads, offices and universities in some areas. Nearly 40 people were arrested during the day.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce93y2dxlg4o

cliffside

(1,309 posts)
13. Happy to see today's action, sadly most of this is for the release of hostages, which is fine don't get me wrong ...
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 08:00 PM
Aug 17

but I wonder if all the hostages were released, would Israel withdraw and let the people stay?

Who would fund the reconstruction? Questions to be answered in the future.

More than $50 billion US needed to rebuild devastated Gaza Strip: World Bank joint report - Feb 18, 2025

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/50-billion-gaza-rebuilding-1.7462083







AloeVera

(3,677 posts)
18. No. Israel would not withdraw nor give up on the ethnic cleansing.
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 10:05 PM
Aug 17

Last edited Sun Aug 17, 2025, 10:39 PM - Edit history (1)

The hostages are a secondary goal. Netanyahu has made that very, very clear.

Every time he sabotaged a ceasefire negotiation - well-documented by now - he made that clear.

By bombing and bulldozing Gaza, starving Gaza (including the hostages) etc - he made that clear.

Withdrawal from Gaza was the one demand Hamas never gave up on. They were willing to return the hostages if Israel withdrew. They could have been home a year and a half ago.

So is it not clear Netanyahu values taking Gaza and eliminating the Palestinians over the lives of his own people? It is to me and finally to hundreds of thousands or millions of Israelis.

cliffside

(1,309 posts)
15. Gazans Once Escaped To Rafah. Now Israel Is Razing It - Full article, maps and video
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 08:06 PM
Aug 17
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/05/15/world/middleeast/rafah-gaza-israel-damage.html?unlocked_article_code=1.fE8.yFlp.BqIDeI_ouSgr&smid=url-share

"Satellite images analyzed by The New York Times show that the Israeli military has flattened large areas in and around the city of Rafah and built new military infrastructure in the last two months....


New Construction
Israeli forces are not just clearing land. They are building on it.

One new road already stretches more than three miles from the Israeli border across Rafah into agricultural areas. It is protected by berms, trenches and several military outposts.

And other construction is moving at a rapid clip, the satellite images show.

Several new military outposts, often graded, paved and surrounded by defensive walls, have been built across southern Gaza in the past month. Soldiers have also commandeered buildings to use as bases, such as an under-construction hospital..."

AloeVera

(3,677 posts)
17. They are building the concentration camp complete with guard towers.
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 09:22 PM
Aug 17

More accurately, the transfer camp. Like during WWII. A camp from which prisoners will be moved to other, more permanent "locations". In this case, South Sudan or another of the worst hell-holes on earth. Palestinians should be grateful, it could be worse, right?

I can't believe this is happening. Rather, allowed to happen.

cliffside

(1,309 posts)
20. Also building roads in the West Bank to cut off towns, the video posted by a DU member moniss on Friday shows
Sun Aug 17, 2025, 11:27 PM
Aug 17

what is being done, all being done at the same time.

Starving and homeless people will be amenable to relocating, of course they'll be promised waterfront property in a desert.

Video link from Friday of the West Bank

"Armed settlers and segregation: Inside the West Bank"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220563221

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