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BumRushDaShow

(152,874 posts)
Fri May 23, 2025, 07:27 AM 6 hrs ago

'Sealed their fate': New memo shows Dems giddy over looming elections

Source: Raw Story

May 22, 2025 7:31PM ET


Democrats are already plotting to go on the offense over House Republicans' vote to pass President Donald Trump's "big, beautiful bill."

According to Punchbowl News' Max Cohen, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has already circulated a memo stating that the GOP's vote “will cost them their majority next year,” and that “No matter what happens in the Senate with respect to budget reconciliation, House Republicans have already sealed their political fate.”

This aligns with exclusive Raw Story reporting that Democrats are already strategizing on how to make Republicans pay for their vote. The GOP's counterparts at the National Republican Congressional Committee, meanwhile, are doing their best to flip the script, attacking Democrats who opposed the legislation as voting for “tax hikes, handouts to illegal immigrants, and open border chaos.”

The Republican bill, which came together haphazardly after weeks of impasse and faction-fighting, cuts hundreds of billions of dollars from Medicaid, food assistance, and green energy programs, along with a number of other items like ending the IRS' free tax filing service, prohibiting states from enforcing artificial intelligence regulations for a decade, and sharply limiting the ability of federal courts to civilly sanction Trump administration officials for contempt.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/house-democrats-2672190376/






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News in @PunchbowlNews PM: A DCCC memo predicts that House Rs voting for reconciliation “will cost them their majority next year.”

“No matter what happens in the Senate with respect to budget reconciliation, House Republicans have already sealed their political fate”
5:03 PM · May 22, 2025
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'Sealed their fate': New memo shows Dems giddy over looming elections (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 6 hrs ago OP
If there are elections. nt moniss 6 hrs ago #1
Exactly Jarqui 5 hrs ago #3
Trump already told the world that nobody was ever going to have to vote again, and that he didn't need them BComplex 51 min ago #32
I'm not "giddy" kentuck 6 hrs ago #2
No giddiness here, either. Hugin 5 hrs ago #4
Me neither... Mike 03 5 hrs ago #7
I seem to recall an abortion ruling which was going to seal the fate of the GQP too...... groundloop 4 hrs ago #10
"Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall." Ursus Rex 5 hrs ago #5
Democrats have to change their messages. Ojerly 5 hrs ago #6
Be careful, though. It's only a short drive from "giddy" to "cocky". Buns_of_Fire 5 hrs ago #8
Naturally, we all want them to be right. Mike 03 5 hrs ago #9
Dem leaders are still feraking clueless about how all this works Miguelito Loveless 4 hrs ago #11
"plotting to go on the offense" So a concept of a plan. Sounds fun. n/t flvegan 4 hrs ago #12
Does this mean they have found a way to make Fux Nooze report the truth? mdbl 4 hrs ago #13
"Dems giddy" travelingthrulife 3 hrs ago #14
It's so disgusting, isn't it. yardwork 3 hrs ago #17
Maybe they could put some effort into a unified message pimpbot 3 hrs ago #15
At this point, the only "unified message" must be "anger" BumRushDaShow 3 hrs ago #19
Counting your chickens before they hatch is never a smart thing to do. Autumn 3 hrs ago #16
I don't necessarily trust this report, but... yardwork 3 hrs ago #20
I think DNC only listens to a select few and expect all Democratic voters to go along. Autumn 3 hrs ago #21
Giddy..... Hope22 3 hrs ago #18
Giddy means disaster without Giddy up. usonian 3 hrs ago #22
The DCCC is giddy? Who the hell can afford to be giddy KPN 2 hrs ago #23
The DCCC is giddy? Who in the hell can afford to be giddy KPN 2 hrs ago #24
Yeah, somehow I figured this would turn into a Democrat-bashing thread. Paladin 2 hrs ago #25
So we can stay off the streets, wait, be comfortable, and everything will be OK? hay rick 2 hrs ago #26
IOW - they are not acting NOW azureblue 2 hrs ago #27
Don't get too cocky. Mz Pip 2 hrs ago #28
Um, everyone realizes that "giddy" is Raw Story's spin, yes? EarlG 2 hrs ago #29
The Punchbowl article is paywalled BUT enough was visible to grab their link to the DCCC memo BumRushDaShow 56 min ago #31
*IF* we engage in an effective messaging campaign... CaptainTruth 1 hr ago #30
FFS, 17 months away is not "looming", Rawstory. maxsolomon 44 min ago #33

Jarqui

(10,664 posts)
3. Exactly
Fri May 23, 2025, 07:36 AM
5 hrs ago

or end of elections as we currently understand them

If Trump removes contempt of court, it is a dictatorship
What stops him?

Martial law ... no election ...
or an election like they have in Russia
.. where only Republican appointees can count the ballots.

That has to be the end game with this bill

Unless something stops them, the democracy is over.

BComplex

(9,423 posts)
32. Trump already told the world that nobody was ever going to have to vote again, and that he didn't need them
Fri May 23, 2025, 12:42 PM
51 min ago

to vote. He said they already had the votes and that Elon rigged the computers to help him (and other republicans, I might add, but was not said by trump).

kentuck

(113,815 posts)
2. I'm not "giddy"
Fri May 23, 2025, 07:33 AM
6 hrs ago

The die has been cast. The propaganda is still in effect. Not much has changed, in my opinion, at this time. It should have but I don't I don't think it has.

Hugin

(36,130 posts)
4. No giddiness here, either.
Fri May 23, 2025, 07:40 AM
5 hrs ago

Belt tightening and pain are on the menu for the foreseeable future.

Mike 03

(18,462 posts)
7. Me neither...
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:12 AM
5 hrs ago

They are focused on the election as if it is some deux ex machina that is going to undo all the hopeless damage the MAGAs are doing right now; meanwhile, our efforts to effectively neutralize all the actions they are taking now is a very mixed bag and not very successful. I understand the fear of dealing with reality right now and hinging their hopes on some future election, because it's scary. But I don't think the electorate is that excited about these elections. We are more worried about what is being destroyed and taken from us right now in front of our eyes.

groundloop

(12,936 posts)
10. I seem to recall an abortion ruling which was going to seal the fate of the GQP too......
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:34 AM
4 hrs ago

So no, I don't in any way shape or form feel like we should be celebrating. All of the misinformation, Russian interference, big money, lies, voter suppression, and media bias that handed the election to tRump are still in place and they're not going anywhere.

Ursus Rex

(378 posts)
5. "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:09 AM
5 hrs ago

This is exactly the attitude that cost the US this nonsense we're living thru now. I'm WORKING to make it happen, but I don't really see a lot of effort on the part of the DNC etc.

Ojerly

(98 posts)
6. Democrats have to change their messages.
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:10 AM
5 hrs ago

It's all well and good that they have a bunch of stuff to throw in the Republicans face, but the "Orange Man Bad" isn't the way to victory. Sure point out the flaws, but listen to the people. Show us you understand and give us the road back to sanity.

Buns_of_Fire

(18,423 posts)
8. Be careful, though. It's only a short drive from "giddy" to "cocky".
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:13 AM
5 hrs ago

That said, I would personally run on a platform pledging to strip every one of them of their citizenship and deport them to Antarctica.

Mike 03

(18,462 posts)
9. Naturally, we all want them to be right.
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:16 AM
5 hrs ago

But I think of some phrases:

"Whistling past the grave yard"

(Hoping for a) Deus ex Machina.

"trying to pick gnat shit out of pepper" (as in focusing obsessively on the minutia to the exclusion of the major matters that need attention now)

Miguelito Loveless

(4,970 posts)
11. Dem leaders are still feraking clueless about how all this works
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:42 AM
4 hrs ago

Elections will not matter. Dictators do not give up power. Any results not favoring the regime will be ignored and declared "fraudulent". When people protest, martial law will follow. The Orange Regime no longer needs "voters".

mdbl

(6,503 posts)
13. Does this mean they have found a way to make Fux Nooze report the truth?
Fri May 23, 2025, 09:05 AM
4 hrs ago

Or all the other right-wing whackos in the manosphere?

pimpbot

(1,084 posts)
15. Maybe they could put some effort into a unified message
Fri May 23, 2025, 09:44 AM
3 hrs ago

No longer can we run as "not trump". It aint working. We need a unified message similar to the Bernie AOC road show. We also need someone with stage presence to deliver it.

The only thing this memo shows is DCCC concentrating on regaining their majorities. Which is important, but not as important as the messaging and actions they will take when in majority.

If we somehow regain majorities and fail to act decisively, its probably curtains on the USA. Voters are tired of policy wonks debating, they are looking for action, right or wrong. Currently that action is all being done by the slimy GOP.

BumRushDaShow

(152,874 posts)
19. At this point, the only "unified message" must be "anger"
Fri May 23, 2025, 10:01 AM
3 hrs ago

because unfortunately that works. It worked for the GOP when 45 got in the first time with an anti-Obama/anti-ACA vote, it worked for Democrats with Biden as an anti-45/anti-pandemic vote (including during the midterms with the overturning of Roe), and in the whiplash, it worked for 45 again with the anti-immigrant/anti-liberal base vote.

In EACH of these cases, people will EASILY ignore "economics" when they feel their very "being" is attacked - and that goes all ways.

They react reflexively, instinctively, emotionally, and viscerally.

Something as simple as "The GOP is taking away your rights" (and that can be fed all kinds of "rights" depending on the part of the country the messaging is happening because we are NOT A MONOLITH) and leave it at that.

Autumn

(47,864 posts)
16. Counting your chickens before they hatch is never a smart thing to do.
Fri May 23, 2025, 09:44 AM
3 hrs ago

Matter of fact it's down right stupid.

yardwork

(66,693 posts)
20. I don't necessarily trust this report, but...
Fri May 23, 2025, 10:05 AM
3 hrs ago

The entire Democratic Party strategy seems to be "sit back and let them make a mess and then we'll win" and I see a lot of flaws in that.

I'm worried that DNC leaders don't seem to be talking to actual Democratic voters. At least the ones who live outside the beltway cocktail circuit.

Autumn

(47,864 posts)
21. I think DNC only listens to a select few and expect all Democratic voters to go along.
Fri May 23, 2025, 10:18 AM
3 hrs ago

They should realize their "who else you gonna vote for didn't work?" "vote for me I'm not as bad as the other guy" didn't work.
I don't think this "House Republicans have already sealed their political fate.” will work either.
Republicans don't give a shit about what Trump and the Republicn party does. Passing this bill will not turn off their support for their party.

KPN

(16,623 posts)
23. The DCCC is giddy? Who the hell can afford to be giddy
Fri May 23, 2025, 10:47 AM
2 hrs ago

who isn’t a billionaire or aa slacky for them in times like these? No wonder I stopped giving to the DCCC more than a decade ago. Geesh!

KPN

(16,623 posts)
24. The DCCC is giddy? Who in the hell can afford to be giddy
Fri May 23, 2025, 10:48 AM
2 hrs ago

who isn’t a billionaire or aa slacky for them in times like these? No wonder I stopped giving to the DCCC more than a decade ago. Geesh!

Paladin

(30,426 posts)
25. Yeah, somehow I figured this would turn into a Democrat-bashing thread.
Fri May 23, 2025, 10:57 AM
2 hrs ago

Nonetheless depressing, to be proven correct.

hay rick

(8,709 posts)
26. So we can stay off the streets, wait, be comfortable, and everything will be OK?
Fri May 23, 2025, 11:03 AM
2 hrs ago

Got it (sarcasm).

azureblue

(2,429 posts)
27. IOW - they are not acting NOW
Fri May 23, 2025, 11:04 AM
2 hrs ago

Stop waiting for something to happen to stop Trump. Start TODAY throwing a wrench into his schemes and getting him thrown out of office.
You know well that, even if the next round of elections go against Trump, he will go straight to court to contest it.
Dems, - fight fire with fire..

EarlG

(22,918 posts)
29. Um, everyone realizes that "giddy" is Raw Story's spin, yes?
Fri May 23, 2025, 11:11 AM
2 hrs ago

Raw Story has pieced together an article based on a tweet which quotes two sentence fragments from a DCCC memo which seems to express confidence that Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot with their draconian cuts.

Is there a link to the actual memo? I’d be curious to find out if this “frivolous arrogant Dems” storyline is accurate or whether people are just reacting to the headline.

CaptainTruth

(7,644 posts)
30. *IF* we engage in an effective messaging campaign...
Fri May 23, 2025, 12:25 PM
1 hr ago

...that makes it clear to people how the GOP bill hurts them.

It will only matter if people know about it.

maxsolomon

(36,562 posts)
33. FFS, 17 months away is not "looming", Rawstory.
Fri May 23, 2025, 12:49 PM
44 min ago

And any Dem that's paying attention knows taking the Senate is highly unlikely.

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