Vance says Roberts is 'profoundly wrong' about Supreme Court's role to check the executive branch

[groundloop]

Source: ABC News

During a wide-ranging podcast interview with the New York Times posted Wednesday, Vice President JD Vance said Chief Justice John Roberts was “profoundly wrong” for recent comments he made on the Supreme Court's role to check the excesses of the executive.

"I thought that was a profoundly wrong sentiment. That's one half of his job. The other half of his job is to check the excesses of his own branch," Vance stated. "You cannot have a country where the American people keep on electing immigration enforcement and the courts tell the American people they're not allowed to have what they voted for. That's where we are right now," Vance continued.

Vance's comments occurred while discussing the administration's immigration policies and initiatives, which have been met with swift legal actions. Vance said the White House believes Trump "has extraordinary plenary power."

"I think that you are seeing, and I know this is inflammatory, but I think you are seeing an effort by the courts to quite literally overturn the will of the American people. To be clear, it's not most courts," Vance said.

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[PittBlue]

1. STFU Vance.

He is as horrifying as trump.

[brush]

8. Yes, and always angry and lecturing someone.

And he apparently knows nothing of 4th, 5th, 7th and 14th Amendments, nor of the Magna Carta, the cornerstone from which our legal system descends.

Needs to STFU.

[SSJVegeta]

2. The surprising nuance in Vances comment suggests he doesnt quite so vigorously disagree with Roberts

...as he seems to say.

[Irish_Dem]

5. How do you mean?

Can you say more?

[SSJVegeta]

13. My interpretation from his comment

"I thought that was a profoundly wrong sentiment. That's one half of his job. The other half of his job is to check the excesses of his own branch,"

He at least seems to acknowledge that checking the executive is a responsibility of the judiciary. I suppose it isn't also crazy to say thay the judiciary should also check itself (kinda how the executive should also check itself, but they clearly refuse to.)

[Irish_Dem]

15. His comments seem contradictory?

First he says it is profoundly wrong for the SC to check the executive branch, then says it is half the job of the SC.

I see the job of the SC to check itself as well as the other branches of govt.
But the executive and legislative branches provides checks and balances as well.

[SSJVegeta]

17. Absolutely. Thats also kinda what I was trying to say.

The guy is verifiably a train wreck.

[Irish_Dem]

18. Yale should take back his law degree.

[Marthe48]

29. He is an inept politician

his favorite color isn't plaid. It's tie-dye.

[KPN]

10. Nuance? What were you reading?

[slightlv]

37. Vance is suppose to be so intelligent, hiding behind a fool's mask in front of trump.

I see no intelligence in his eyes... and I certainly don't see any of the humility he's suppose to show in public and in private as a Christian follower of the Christ. I'd love for somebody to ask him... while he's going on and on about the law and how awful it is right now turned against trump, to compare it Hammurabi's legacy as a lawgiver where he reflected genuine concern for social justice and the betterment of the lives of his people.... both those originally from Babylon and those who were ensconced within Babylon once he conquered them. I don't have a great love for him... he was a stern follower of Marduk... but I do appreciate the laws he set down for his people. Much like the old testament of an eye for an eye in retributive justice; but also in curtailing blood libel and vendettas. Everything that Hammurabi set down as law goes against what the republicans call "law" today. I'd love to have them do a compare and contrast among the great laws of the earth... Hammurabi, the Old and New Testament laws, the Magna Carta, and the Constitution of the U.S. (and perhaps England and France's documents, as well). Contrast and compare those with magat law. Not one of them have the smarts to even attempt it, and if they were honest, they would NOT come out smelling like anything other than a pig farm.

[Walleye]

3. What a dolt, This is not "immigration enforcement, you traitor

So now they are saying, the people voted for this, after telling us for the last eight years that this isn’t a democracy.

[Omnipresent]

4. The felon's administration keeps taking issue with SC that gave him executive immunity, so...

How long before he has some of them physically assaulted, jailed or murdered?
I mean, we have more than 3 1/2 years before we can possibly get rid of him.
It makes me wonder if the SC has a fail safe to prevent its own demise.

[Bayard]

21. trump is not going to last that long

Then, Vance will be prez. Try to wrap our minds around that!

[Omnipresent]

30. That's a tune that's been playing for years.

The felon survived covid and managed to get himself out of a few problems, you and i would have been jailed for years ago.
When i hear he is actually gone, I will believe it.

[tavernier]

33. His brain is gone.

They can prop up his moldy mess of a carcass with gold toilets and golf carts and his cult will continue to hallucinate and genuflect before His Unholiness.

[Irish_Dem]

6. So the American people voted to end rule of law, the US constitution, and democracy.

And that is fine with Vance.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

7. Whether they believe it or not, they want YOU to believe it

Especially the poorly educated and those lacking civics instruction and low info voters.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

9. "'Tis better to remain quiet and be thought a fool than to say something and remove all doubt."

It's a quote by Abraham Lincoln or Mark Twain or someone else.

I know fat Donnie doesn't (can't?) read, and doesn't need to since he knows more about everything than everybody else, but you'd think someone with a Yale law degree would know something the rest of us learned in high school civics: "The government of the United States is divided into three branches, two of which serve as a check against the others."

In Tangerine Bozo's world the branches are Trump, Trump and Trump.

God help anyone who tells the God King "No."

[kimbutgar]

11. Mr couch lover there are three CO EQUAL branches of government

I was substituting the other day and listened to a teacher tell his 3rd graders about our constitution and all three breaches are co-equal to have checks and balances. Dude you must have forgot that in law school?

[snowybirdie]

12. If I ran Yale University

I'd seriously review what is taught in their Law School.

[RobinA]

14. Some Of Those

in this administration need a remedial course in Basic Constitutional Law. Assigned reading, The Federalist Papers. Available in audible form for those who can't read big words. Harvard? Columbia? Great chance to whittle away at those pro bono hours Trump conned you out of.

[Irish_Dem]

16. Can't a POTUS take care of immigration problems without breaking the law?

Or violating the US Constitution?

[GB_RN]

19. When I See BS Like This...

From Couchf**ker, Cottonhead, Raphael “Fled” Cruz, etc., etc., it doesn’t give me a lot of confidence in these Ivy League schools which these clowns graduated from. Seriously, there has to be something wrong with these people graduating from “elite” schools and being this…profoundly…ignorant/stupid.

[llmart]

36. I think some of their degrees are bought and paid for.

If you know what I mean. This guy is truly a dunce.

[Torchlight]

20. Kind of a stupid statement from a youngish politician.

[GiqueCee]

22. Vance, you lying shitweasel...

... the issue is not with immigration enforcement per se, it is with the needlessly cruel, and obscenely illegal and unconstitutional way the ICE Gestapo – or is that "Gazpacho? – is going about it. Trump has publicly stated that only HE, and his captive and corrupt DOJ, will determine what the law is. Sorry, Donnie, you evil fuck, that's not the way it works. And that little pearl squirreled away in your "Big Ugly Bill", that forbids courts from issuing contempt citations, effectively making you the King, ain't gonna fly. You're going to prison until you die, then you'll be buried in a sand trap on an abandoned public golf course that will be designated as a toxic waste dump because of your presence.

[question everything]

23. His law degree should be retracted

[ananda]

24. And I say there is something profoundly wrong with JD Vance.

Period

[LymphocyteLover]

25. JD Vance is a cunt

[Lovie777]

26. Something is wrong with his mind.................

[Karasu]

27. They keep parroting this bullshit that winning the election somehow gave them a mandate to violate the fucking law

however they damn well please.

Why is no one calling him on this fucking shit?

[Paladin]

28. Guess he slept through his con law class at Yale. (nt)

[RedArkGuy]

40. I'm pretty sure

. . . Vance is the type to have decided before even entering the class what he thought of it all.

[louis-t]

31. Gee, he didn't say anything about Obama being entitled to choose a SC justice.

JD Vonce is not an expert on the subject. He's not an expert at anything except couch fucking. (a vonce is a bedbug)

[mdbl]

32. God it sux to have a dumbfuck in the Vice Presidency.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

34. Oh, so Vancy is now a Constitutional lawyer?

I put him right up there with Kristi Noem on knowing what the Constitution actually says
IOW, they don't know shit about the Constitution, they probably don't even know there is a Constitution.

[EndlessWire]

35. I'm worried they are going to

try something against the SC. Not that I like this Court. This Court made rump a dictator free and clear. But, I like less that he could impeach the entire court. As it is, rump and Roberts are at each other now. Don't even imagine that the Orange Hellbeast isn't thinking about how to control the SC, especially when he loses.

[slightlv]

38. should that happen, do you think

the people who say we're headed for a constitutional crises might change their tune and start singing "We're IN a constitutional crisis!"

[RedArkGuy]

39. More all or nothing thinking

It is possible to have humane immigration policy. Vance here says that either there is inhumane immigration policy or none. All the SC and the judiciary has tried to do is trim the Trump policy so that Constitutional rights to due process are respected. For Vance, unless the immigration policy has universal right to deport to any location with any condition, then then democratic will of the 49 percent who voted Trump is completely thwarted.

Either-or thinking. Two-dimensional thinking.

We really are in the era of the know-nothings.