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BumRushDaShow

(153,178 posts)
Wed May 21, 2025, 07:17 AM Wednesday

Electricity demand expected to jump by more than 75% by 2050 as costs rise, report says

Source: CBS News

May 20, 2025 / 8:58 PM EDT


A dramatic demand for electricity, coupled with a rise in costs, could create massive energy challenges for the United States over the next two decades, a new report released Tuesday by ICF found. The global consulting and technology services company predicted that electricity demand could jump at least 25% in the next five years and as much as 78% by 2050 — findings that far outpace historical trends over the past two decades.

Such growth could have a significant impact on both the reliability and affordability of electricity, the report said. Retail costs are also expected to rise; by 2050, costs passed onto the consumer could double, ICF found. "This is a pivotal moment as rising demand creates urgent challenges for the grid," said Anne Choate, ICF executive vice president for energy, environment and infrastructure in a statement. The U.S. could struggle with increased electricity demand due to rising temperatures and the growing use of emerging technologies, bearing down on an overloaded system.

The report found that in Texas, nearly one-third of the expected increase is attributable to large load sources, such as cryptocurrency mining operations. Data centers, building electrification and semiconductor manufacturing, along with electric vehicles, account for 35% of the projected load through 2040 in 13 mid-Atlantic and Midwest states as well as Washington, D.C. Electric grid operators across the U.S. have been sounding the alarm in advance of elevated summer temperatures after record-breaking heat last year.

The World Meteorological Organization said in its annual State of the Global Climate report that 2024 set a new global temperature record, averaging over 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels. The National Weather Service released a report last week predicting hotter-than-normal temperatures across the United States from June through August. PJM, one of the country's largest electric grid operators, serving 67 million people in states including North Carolina, Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Michigan, warned customers in a news release that the system will be experience a high peak demand this summer.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/electricity-demand-expected-to-jump-75-percent-by-2050-costs-rise-report/



Link to ICF PRESS RELEASE - Electricity Demand Expected to Grow 25% By 2030

Link to ICF REPORT page - Rising current: America’s growing electricity demand
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Electricity demand expected to jump by more than 75% by 2050 as costs rise, report says (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Wednesday OP
how much of that will be sucked up by AI and bit mining? nt Javaman Wednesday #1
A lot DUU Wednesday #3
My first thought after reading the headline... IthinkThereforeIAM Wednesday #9
And U.S. electricity generation was flat for so long, e.g. 2023 was about the same as 2007 (16 years). progree Wednesday #2
I've signed a new one year contract after my last one expired. Rates per KW are up 25% over last year. surfered Wednesday #4
And we could have clean energy (given by God for the MAGA crowd) in the form of sun and wind. OrlandoDem2 Wednesday #5
Places with the most highly developed wind and solar industries... hunter Wednesday #12
I'm fine with your last sentence. OrlandoDem2 Wednesday #13
how many of u rember this ad campain put out by the electric utilities years ago AllaN01Bear Wednesday #6
I remember back in 1979 BumRushDaShow Wednesday #8
Said the same BS with Wolf Creek in Kansas. With massive cost overruns Bengus81 Wednesday #21
According to Eric Schmidt former Google CEO ... OldBoss Wednesday #7
solar solar solar.... for much of the country. WarGamer Wednesday #10
The "solar will save us" cults, are the problem, not the solution. What is needed is reliable continuous clean energy. NNadir Wednesday #20
I'm not talking about Solar saving the planet... WarGamer Wednesday #23
The hidden cost of the "solar will save us" myth is the... NNadir Wednesday #24
Well, duh? Unca Jim Wednesday #11
I remember back in the 70s trying to reduce energy. LisaM Wednesday #19
Nikola Tesla envisioned a world where electricity was accessible to everyone for free Polybius Wednesday #14
cryto minining should be illegal North Coast Lawyer Wednesday #15
Crypto is bad, but most of this growth is AI, not crypto lostnfound Wednesday #16
Almost ENTIRELY because of fucking AI, which the government still refuses to regulate. It's such a massive energy drain Karasu Wednesday #17
Yeah...AI formally known as Google Search Bengus81 Wednesday #22
Our solar panels have never looked better! 11 Bravo Wednesday #18

DUU

(15 posts)
3. A lot
Wed May 21, 2025, 08:07 AM
Wednesday

In several states, generally where electric generation is much less expensive than the national average, the large user (aka server farms and 24x7 real time data storage) are the growth factors.

progree

(11,941 posts)
2. And U.S. electricity generation was flat for so long, e.g. 2023 was about the same as 2007 (16 years).
Wed May 21, 2025, 08:06 AM
Wednesday

Last edited Fri May 23, 2025, 01:43 AM - Edit history (2)



Edited: looking for something later, I found statista in archive.org but the latest figures are just through 2023:
2005: 4,055, 2010: 4,125, 2011:4,100, 2015: 4,078, 2016: 4,077, 2017: 4,034, 2018: 4,178, 2019:4,128, 2020: 4,007, 2021: 4,116, 2022: 4,243, 2023: 4,178 -- so note that 2023 is the same as 2018, so we're essentially talking about a flat spot from 2007 thru 2023 (16 years) /EDIT

It was during those flat years where the carbon emissions from electricity generation went down in the U.S., thanks mostly to natural gas replacing a lot of coal (natural gas is filthy, but only half as filthy as coal as far as greenhouse gas emissions per KWH). And thanks to solar and wind. And finally, that electricity generation and consumption was essentially flat was helpful. 

Well, now electricity growth is expected to skyrocket as multiple sources say, it will be next to impossible to keep greenhouse gas emissions from growing at least for the next few years if 25% growth in electricity in just 5 years were to occur.

As for air conditioning load, that is expected to skyrocket too. A small rise in average temperature results in an exponential increase in very hot days:



The graph illustrates that a small shift to the right in the average shifts the whole bell curve to the right, and, in this illustration makes hot weather (orange) much more common and extreme hot weather (red) from almost zero probability to considerable probability

Much more at link: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143266574#post1

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Why your air conditioning bill is about to soar - the energy required rises with the SQUARE of the temperature difference
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1127174891

surfered

(6,947 posts)
4. I've signed a new one year contract after my last one expired. Rates per KW are up 25% over last year.
Wed May 21, 2025, 08:18 AM
Wednesday

OrlandoDem2

(2,804 posts)
5. And we could have clean energy (given by God for the MAGA crowd) in the form of sun and wind.
Wed May 21, 2025, 08:23 AM
Wednesday

Democrats need to seize the religious mantle and hammer the notion that God gave people the sun and wind which could represent clean energy that is cheap. Somehow the GOP has sold the MAGAs on fossil fuels that pollute. Insane.

hunter

(39,513 posts)
12. Places with the most highly developed wind and solar industries...
Wed May 21, 2025, 12:39 PM
Wednesday

... tend to have the most expensive electricity.

That's because you still need to build and maintain backup power systems to cover the demand for power when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining.

Here in California our "backup power" is natural gas. When the sun is shining brightly these filthy natural gas power plants are not making any money but we still have to pay for them.

You can watch how this works in real time here:

https://www.caiso.com/todays-outlook/supply

At the moment 81% of the electricity I'm using is "renewable," mostly solar. As the sun goes down California will switch to natural gas.

In Denmark and Germany, countries with aggressive renewable energy programs they pay even more for electricity than we do here.

Hybrid natural gas / wind / solar / battery power grids will not reduce the total amount of greenhouse gasses humans dump into the atmosphere before our civilization collapses; they will not "save the world."

Like it or not, the only energy resource capable of displacing fossil fuels entirely, which we must do, is nuclear power.


AllaN01Bear

(25,276 posts)
6. how many of u rember this ad campain put out by the electric utilities years ago
Wed May 21, 2025, 09:16 AM
Wednesday

readyy kilowatt. cheap. reliable and clean. it sure aint cheap now.

BumRushDaShow

(153,178 posts)
8. I remember back in 1979
Wed May 21, 2025, 10:05 AM
Wednesday

taking a tour of the-then under-construction Limerick nuclear power plant here in PA (I think they had just finished one of the cooling towers). The guy who gave us the tour told us that once the plant came online and was operational, the PECO electric bills would drop down to about $3 a month. The average bill at the time was like $25 per month (depending on the season). We laughed (and the laughing was proven to have been correct).

Bengus81

(8,841 posts)
21. Said the same BS with Wolf Creek in Kansas. With massive cost overruns
Wed May 21, 2025, 04:39 PM
Wednesday

(which almost bankrupted KG&E) before it went online in 1985 the KCC let them JACK our rates before it went online. Then we had the highest electric bills in a four State area when it was operational. So much for "cheap" energy.

Our rates are sky high and now worse because they let two huge electric company's merge creating a mega energy company called Evergy about ten years ago. We get nailed with sky high rates, the CEO gets $7.2 million per year and they pay out a huge dividend each quarter.

OldBoss

(46 posts)
7. According to Eric Schmidt former Google CEO ...
Wed May 21, 2025, 10:04 AM
Wednesday

AI can consume 99% of the world’s electricity by 2030 - as he declared before congress.

#ddg-play]

And guess who’s forecasted to consume much of that electricity demand? Yep, Eloon …

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/19/climate/xai-musk-memphis-turbines-pollution]

NNadir

(35,886 posts)
20. The "solar will save us" cults, are the problem, not the solution. What is needed is reliable continuous clean energy.
Wed May 21, 2025, 04:24 PM
Wednesday

The solar industry requires, and relies, on dangerous fossil fuels. It entrenches them, owing to the fact that the sun goes down.

The trillions of dollars squandered it at done nothing to address extreme global heating, and the raison d'etre, was always and only to attack the only truly sustainable form of clean energy there is, nuclear energy.

NNadir

(35,886 posts)
24. The hidden cost of the "solar will save us" myth is the...
Wed May 21, 2025, 06:23 PM
Wednesday

...economically and environmentally unsustainable requirements for redundancy.

These are hidden internal and external costs. To an real environmentalist the latter matter.

One of the big lies about solar and so called "renewable energy" in general, is that it's cheap and clean. It's neither

Unca Jim

(574 posts)
11. Well, duh?
Wed May 21, 2025, 12:20 PM
Wednesday

Obviously. More and more electric vehicles, more and more reliance on electricity to heat, cook, etc. It's been known it will increase a great deal because of climate change as well. We just need to keep building more wind, solar, and *modern* thorium salt nuclear reactors. We need to upgrade the electrical infrastructure to make it more efficient as well.

LisaM

(29,211 posts)
19. I remember back in the 70s trying to reduce energy.
Wed May 21, 2025, 04:23 PM
Wednesday

We always turned off any lights not being used, kept the heat a little lower, unplugged appliances that weren't being used, combined shopping trips, etc. I still have a lot of those habits, actually. Most of my electrical use is probably computer (which I can't avoid using) and the TV.

Polybius

(20,008 posts)
14. Nikola Tesla envisioned a world where electricity was accessible to everyone for free
Wed May 21, 2025, 01:00 PM
Wednesday

Thomas Edison, not so much.

15. cryto minining should be illegal
Wed May 21, 2025, 01:31 PM
Wednesday

Mining cryptocurrency serves no valid purpose and is negatively impacting both consumers and the environment. This wasteful practice needs to be stopped.

lostnfound

(16,990 posts)
16. Crypto is bad, but most of this growth is AI, not crypto
Wed May 21, 2025, 01:55 PM
Wednesday

US companies are going all in on AI. In my state, they are talking about how to raise rates for the public NOW for power plants NOT YET BUILT, simply to create enough electricity to meet demand from some big data center.

The billionaires speculating or investing on the future profits of AI are not being asked to pay for the construction of power plants.

Karasu

(1,219 posts)
17. Almost ENTIRELY because of fucking AI, which the government still refuses to regulate. It's such a massive energy drain
Wed May 21, 2025, 03:03 PM
Wednesday

that it's absurd...and by and large, people use it for the stupidest shit. And these fascists want to ban all regulation of it for 10 fucking years while everything goes to hell in a handbasket?

This is fucking madness.

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