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BumRushDaShow

(152,902 posts)
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:09 PM Saturday

House Republicans' bill includes 'no tax on tips' proposal. How would it work?

Source: USA Today

May 17, 2025, 5:05 a.m. ET


House Republicans recently unveiled a sweeping tax plan that included a key promise from President Donald Trump’s campaign trail: no tax on tips.

Polling suggests it’s a popular idea across party lines, and Trump has credited the idea for aiding his 2024 election win. But critics argue that no taxes on tips is a costly, unfair tax break that will benefit few lower-income Americans.

“A relatively small number of workers are going to see any significant tax savings from this proposal,” said Joseph Rosenberg, a senior fellow at the left-leaning Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center. Here's what we know so far about the latest proposal.

Who qualifies for no tax on tips?

The bill would create a temporary tax deduction through 2028 for employees and independent contractors in occupations that “traditionally and customarily received tips,” likely servers, for example. Should the bill pass, those occupations would be hashed out by the Treasury secretary. Highly compensated workers who make at least $160,000 in 2025 would be ineligible.

Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/05/17/no-tax-on-tips-gop-bill/83649380007/

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House Republicans' bill includes 'no tax on tips' proposal. How would it work? (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Saturday OP
Not sure it would be wise for Democrats to oppose this or removal of taxes on Social Security. It definitely Silent Type Saturday #1
they aren't going to oppose these provisions but the overall bill must be opposed for all its LymphocyteLover Sunday #15
It won't work, like vouchers won't work for schools ............... Lovie777 Saturday #2
I'll tell you how it is meant to work. markodochartaigh Saturday #3
So as a small business service provider, could I work for free... CaptainTruth Saturday #4
Of course all states with state income tax would have to address this, too. mackdaddy Saturday #5
That Supreme Court case you mentioned is troubling delisen Saturday #7
Would end of the year bonuses be considered a tip? Buddyzbuddy Saturday #6
Servers, etc. would be cheated out of future Social Security without taxing no_hypocrisy Saturday #8
Bribes are consider tip as per SCOUS, no tax. Got it. republianmushroom Saturday #9
I worked in food service before tips were taxed Marthe48 Saturday #10
My experiences were much different MichMan Sunday #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Omaha Steve Saturday #11
Okay, If I was still working I'd pay my assisstant minimum wage and ................................................... NGeorgian Saturday #12
Ultimately, I don't think they're doing tipped workers any favors TexasBushwhacker Saturday #13
Let's make taxes even worse. We are so good at it. twodogsbarking Sunday #14
More Loopholes FishBones51 Monday #17

Silent Type

(9,507 posts)
1. Not sure it would be wise for Democrats to oppose this or removal of taxes on Social Security. It definitely
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:21 PM
Saturday

will help people on the lower end of the scale. Even if it's only a few million that get any benefit, I sure wouldn't stand in the way.

LymphocyteLover

(8,013 posts)
15. they aren't going to oppose these provisions but the overall bill must be opposed for all its
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:00 AM
Sunday

horrible cuts elsewhere especially to Medicaid. Any Dem would be foolish to support this bill just for this part of it.

Lovie777

(18,556 posts)
2. It won't work, like vouchers won't work for schools ...............
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:23 PM
Saturday

it means that the servers would have to report monetary given to them directly by customers, which include tips given to them by debit/credit cards. In many cases, all tips could be combined, and some business would get their share and spit the rest with the servers.

Either the way, they may get less.

markodochartaigh

(2,900 posts)
3. I'll tell you how it is meant to work.
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:40 PM
Saturday

We all know that the supremacist court has ruled that politicians cannot take bribes, but they can take tips.

So, hypothetically, let's say that a politician, we'll call him "Stump" receives something of value, let's say an airplane, from someone, for our hypothetical example let's say a Middle Eastern country.
In order to qualify as a bribe the supremacist court has ruled that there must be an explicit tit for tat beforehand. So let's assume that "Stump" had no meetings with the foreign government which were recorded under The Presidential Records Act.
So then, we can assume that Stumpy's new plane will qualify as a tip. Under Snyder v. US state and local officials can accept tips, surely the supremacist court wouldn't think twice about extending this benefit to the greatest president ever, especially since presidents can't be convicted of anything anyway. (For clarification our hypothetical "Stump" is a Republican president and so qualifies for this immunity).
Well, now it is intuitively obvious to the most casual observer that President Stump's plane is a tip, and thus tax free.

CaptainTruth

(7,649 posts)
4. So as a small business service provider, could I work for free...
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:07 PM
Saturday

...& receive payment only in tips?

mackdaddy

(1,769 posts)
5. Of course all states with state income tax would have to address this, too.
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:11 PM
Saturday

Either it is still owed to the state, or the state would have to write in a similar exception/deduction.

And wasn't there a recent case where it was decided giving a politician money up front for something was a bribe, but giving them something after the favor was only a 'tip' and perfectly legal?

delisen

(6,992 posts)
7. That Supreme Court case you mentioned is troubling
Sat May 17, 2025, 06:18 PM
Saturday

II remember correctly:
The political office holder demanded a payment to him personally because a decision he had made in favor of a business ended up greatly benefiting the business. The business was reluctant to pay him but eventually did so. The politician was tried and convicted but when the case got to the Supreme Court. the right wing justices decided it was just a tip and not a corrupt practice.

It was a fairly recent case and I think Kavanaugh wrote the opinion. It was a troubling decision.

Buddyzbuddy

(869 posts)
6. Would end of the year bonuses be considered a tip?
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:37 PM
Saturday

What about live online sellers that receive tips from viewers or dancers?

no_hypocrisy

(51,619 posts)
8. Servers, etc. would be cheated out of future Social Security without taxing
Sat May 17, 2025, 06:26 PM
Saturday

their tips. (If SS survives past the House vote.)

Marthe48

(20,655 posts)
10. I worked in food service before tips were taxed
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:45 PM
Saturday

I was working in food service when the gov. put a tax on tips. At the time, withholding was going to be based on all waitressess getting 15% tips from all diners. I was always a cook, and didn't get tips. The waitresses I worked with rarely got 15% from any diner, let alone all of them. They usually got no tip, or a dollar or two. I was in the meeting when the manager explained what was going to happen. She didn't like to impose withholding on an imaginary income and the waitresses didn't like the news. Knowing that at the time, waitresses were paid half of the minimum wage with the expectation that the rest of their wage would come from tips, I thought it was unfair to the people I worked with.
I suppose that if tips aren't taxed every penny the rwnj grab will be counted as tips. Because they do everything so well. >sarcasm

MichMan

(15,167 posts)
16. My experiences were much different
Sun May 18, 2025, 02:26 PM
Sunday

Worked as a busboy making minimum wage decades ago at a restaurant that was like a Red Lobster clone. The servers made more in tips in one night than I made in an entire week. As far as I know, most all of it was pocketed as cash and never declared on their taxes as income.

I had one server give me $1 one night. Once

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

NGeorgian

(110 posts)
12. Okay, If I was still working I'd pay my assisstant minimum wage and ...................................................
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:52 PM
Saturday

tip her $3,000 a month!

TexasBushwhacker

(20,891 posts)
13. Ultimately, I don't think they're doing tipped workers any favors
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:55 PM
Saturday

Less taxed income means lower Social Security benefits at retirement or disability.

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