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AntiFascist

(13,293 posts)
Thu May 15, 2025, 10:29 PM May 15

Former FBI Director James Comey under investigation for post seen as a potential threat to Trump's life

Source: NBC News

WASHINGTON — The Department of Homeland Security and Secret Service are investigating a social media post by former FBI Director James Comey that several U.S. officials interpreted as calling for the assassination of President Donald Trump, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said Thursday.

In a now-deleted post on Instagram, Comey shared a photo of what he described as a "shell formation" on a beach that formed the numbers "8647." The post was swiftly condemned by administration officials, Republican lawmakers and Trump allies who said it blatantly targeted Trump, the 47th president of the United States.

According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, "eighty-six" can informally mean "to get rid of."

"Disgraced former FBI Director James Comey just called for the assassination of @POTUS Trump," Noem wrote on X. "DHS and Secret Service is investigating this threat and will respond appropriately."
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Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/james-comey-investigation-instagram-post-threat-trump-8647-rcna207167



Idea for a protest t-shirt?
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Former FBI Director James Comey under investigation for post seen as a potential threat to Trump's life (Original Post) AntiFascist May 15 OP
They are just trying to shut down opposition JBTaurus83 May 15 #1
"86 45 Impeach Trump" T-shirts were sold during the first Dump presidency. Eugene May 15 #2
I'm no Comey fan radical noodle May 15 #3
A google search brings up at least 3 dozen. n/t Ms. Toad Friday #13
lots of them at recent protests rurallib Friday #21
Have some punch, Jim! Ponietz May 15 #4
The face-eating leopards will sleep well tonight. Bluetus May 15 #6
Frankly, Hillary did win that election--even despite Comey's sabotage. Alas, we live in a country where the Karasu Friday #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Bluetus Friday #24
The irony of the Electoral College Bluetus Friday #25
Go ahead Iamscrewed May 15 #5
To 86 means shit can. Historic NY May 15 #7
One look at Merriam-Webster's dismisses this farce: muriel_volestrangler Friday #20
Only a former New York Russian mafia mob boss would interpret it otherwise n/t AntiFascist Friday #35
If MAGA goes there, they're not going to like what power-absuing Kash Patel did. Initech May 15 #8
Another petty revenge investigation. cstanleytech Friday #9
Krassenstein has a pretty good debunk on this cadoman Friday #10
Assassination threat? Really? madamesilverspurs Friday #11
I think 86 can also mean that the customer has cancelled his order FakeNoose Friday #27
Should he have said '2nd amendment remedy' mzmolly Friday #12
A 2nd Amendment remedy should have been used to protect the NJ mayor from getting arrested.... AntiFascist Friday #36
Even if "86" meant what they claim it does (it doesn't), they have no fucking legs to stand on when Kash Patel Karasu Friday #15
Could be a simple message asking Congress to do their job. GoodRaisin Friday #16
They know it means impeach truthisfreedom Friday #17
Someone who gets 86'd gets fired from their job, not assassinated Hekate Friday #18
I think it's a stretch to equate "86 45" with rallying to no_hypocrisy Friday #19
Gee, I'm really conflicted HAB911 Friday #22
But is '86 it' on the TSF Banned Words list with 'DEI' and 'Gulf of Mexico'? sinkingfeeling Friday #23
Let him learn this painful lesson.... FarPoint Friday #26
86 Trump period. Moostache Friday #28
Aren't the Republicans the great defenders of free speech? I guess they defend all speech that they don't find offensive Jim__ Friday #29
F**k Comey. He blatantly ignored the AG NOT to release the letter to the rethugs in Congress 11 days JohnSJ Friday #30
Maddow Blog-Team Trump finds an excuse to do what it's long wanted to do: investigate James Comey LetMyPeopleVote Friday #31
Comey under investigation for 'threat' to Trump on social media, officials say LetMyPeopleVote Friday #33
I can't believe the FBI never investigated these calls for assassinations for Biden. LetMyPeopleVote Friday #32
Comey under investigation for 'threat' to Trump on social media, officials say LetMyPeopleVote Friday #34
86 what? bluetexas Friday #37

JBTaurus83

(416 posts)
1. They are just trying to shut down opposition
Thu May 15, 2025, 10:32 PM
May 15

“Getting rid of” doesn’t have to mean kill. Far more incendiary garbage spews out of the right wing.

Eugene

(65,106 posts)
2. "86 45 Impeach Trump" T-shirts were sold during the first Dump presidency.
Thu May 15, 2025, 10:39 PM
May 15

It does not automatically exclude constitutional means and advocate violence. It was also in at least one DUer's sig.

radical noodle

(10,198 posts)
3. I'm no Comey fan
Thu May 15, 2025, 10:40 PM
May 15

but this is nothing. You can get rid of a president without doing him physical harm.

BTW, I've seen 8647 T-shirts somewhere. Google search will probably bring up a multitude of styles.

Ponietz

(3,723 posts)
4. Have some punch, Jim!
Thu May 15, 2025, 10:46 PM
May 15

Same cheap trick Comey used to shiv Democrats in 2016 — dox us by announcing an investigation. Doesn’t feel good, Jim? Don’t put turds in punch bowls.

Bluetus

(1,062 posts)
6. The face-eating leopards will sleep well tonight.
Thu May 15, 2025, 10:58 PM
May 15

It is as close to 100% certainty as imaginable that had Comey not torpedoed Clinton the last weeks of the campaign, she would have been elected.

And that means that Trump very likely never would have accumulated the power to bully the rest of the Republican Party, and therefore probably would not have been a viable candidate in 2020.

And, in turn, Comey would not be in the crosshairs of this fascist regime now.

Karma is a bitch, but unfortunately, we are all suffering because of Comey's karma.

Karasu

(1,189 posts)
14. Frankly, Hillary did win that election--even despite Comey's sabotage. Alas, we live in a country where the
Fri May 16, 2025, 01:30 AM
Friday

popular vote doesn't ultimately matter, only nonsensical, obsolete electoral college BS.

Response to Karasu (Reply #14)

Bluetus

(1,062 posts)
25. The irony of the Electoral College
Fri May 16, 2025, 09:44 AM
Friday

Is that the founders put that in place because they were concerned that the public would not educate itself enough to make wise choices about politicians. And here we are today.

What we have today with the Electoral College, is in anachronism where we have an obsolete structure that no longer performs its original purpose. It isn't helping, but the original concern remains. Is it even possible for a country to make an informed decision on a democratic basis in today's world?

And let us be honest about the pitfalls of a popular vote. With a pure popular vote system we would then be exposed to the possibility of a million fraudulent votes emerging from, say Mississippi, just in time to tip the election. How would we deal with that, considering that we allow the states to run their own elections?

muriel_volestrangler

(103,694 posts)
20. One look at Merriam-Webster's dismisses this farce:
Fri May 16, 2025, 05:55 AM
Friday

1
informal
a
: to refuse to serve (a customer)
b
: to eject or ban (a customer)
2
informal
a
: to remove (an item) from a menu : to no longer offer (an item) to customers
b
: to reject, discontinue, or get rid of (something)

If you work in a restaurant or bar, you might eighty-six (or “eliminate”) a menu item when you run out of it, or you might eighty-six (or “cut off”) a customer who should no longer be served. Eighty-six is still used in this specific context, but it has also entered the general language. These days, you don't have to be a worker in a restaurant or bar to eighty-six something—you just have to have something to get rid of or discard. There are many popular but unsubstantiated theories about the origin of eighty-six. The explanation judged most probable according to Merriam-Webster's research is that the word was created as a rhyming slang word for nix, which means “to veto” or “to reject.”

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/eighty-six

Initech

(104,893 posts)
8. If MAGA goes there, they're not going to like what power-absuing Kash Patel did.
Thu May 15, 2025, 11:32 PM
May 15

And yes, I'm accusing Kash Patel of abusing his power, because he is a MAGA psychopath.

https://www.advocate.com/politics/dems-say-kash-patel-unfit

cadoman

(1,266 posts)
10. Krassenstein has a pretty good debunk on this
Fri May 16, 2025, 12:38 AM
Friday

TLDR: the repukes have used the term as well

https://x.com/edkrassen

My apologies for the link, but I figure it's good counterpoint to have on hand for mAGATs.

madamesilverspurs

(16,254 posts)
11. Assassination threat? Really?
Fri May 16, 2025, 12:41 AM
Friday

Waaaay back in my bartending days (1970s) "86" was common shorthand for having an unruly customer removed, nothing more.

Yeesh.


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FakeNoose

(37,405 posts)
27. I think 86 can also mean that the customer has cancelled his order
Fri May 16, 2025, 09:52 AM
Friday

It's a common term in the restaurant workers' vocabulary.

AntiFascist

(13,293 posts)
36. A 2nd Amendment remedy should have been used to protect the NJ mayor from getting arrested....
Fri May 16, 2025, 04:03 PM
Friday

a well-regulated militia (the local police) could have been used to protect the security and freedom of a citizen of a free State (New Jersey mayor) against the unconstitutional actions of Federal agents, but instead they chose to collaborate with them.

Karasu

(1,189 posts)
15. Even if "86" meant what they claim it does (it doesn't), they have no fucking legs to stand on when Kash Patel
Fri May 16, 2025, 01:34 AM
Friday

is and has been clearly threatening to execute high-profile Dems. To what should be no one's surprise. No one loves death threats more than fascists.

Fuck the GOP and anyone who still supports it for any reason. This is what you are enabling.

GoodRaisin

(10,188 posts)
16. Could be a simple message asking Congress to do their job.
Fri May 16, 2025, 02:28 AM
Friday

Impeach and remove him. Lots of people want that.

no_hypocrisy

(51,619 posts)
19. I think it's a stretch to equate "86 45" with rallying to
Fri May 16, 2025, 04:19 AM
Friday

assassinate TSF. I've seen worse on this board and we're still here.

FarPoint

(13,966 posts)
26. Let him learn this painful lesson....
Fri May 16, 2025, 09:47 AM
Friday

He played the game and was lousy at it...Let's not forget, he hurt Hillary and he hurt all of use for many, many years...we still suffer from his arrogant acts...

Jim__

(14,739 posts)
29. Aren't the Republicans the great defenders of free speech? I guess they defend all speech that they don't find offensive
Fri May 16, 2025, 10:17 AM
Friday

JohnSJ

(98,718 posts)
30. F**k Comey. He blatantly ignored the AG NOT to release the letter to the rethugs in Congress 11 days
Fri May 16, 2025, 10:25 AM
Friday

before the general election, a direct violation of the Hatch Act, which opened the distortion and LIE that the email investigation had been reopened. THAT WAS A LIE. It was not reopened, it only was determining if there was any new information on a laptop computer.

There wasn't, and it took them until late Friday, the weekend before the general for the ass Comey to come out and quietly announce there was not any new information, and no need to reopen the investigation. Unfortunately, the damage had already been done. The illustrious U.S. media for the following 11 days before the election, paraded every right wing pundit across their outlets propagating the LIE that the email investigation had been reopened, and the complete unhinged and false characterizations how this was the worst security failure in the history of the U.S.

If these fascists threw comey into GITMO for the rest of his worthless life, who cares.


LetMyPeopleVote

(163,402 posts)
31. Maddow Blog-Team Trump finds an excuse to do what it's long wanted to do: investigate James Comey
Fri May 16, 2025, 12:14 PM
Friday

Last edited Fri May 16, 2025, 05:48 PM - Edit history (2)

It’s possible that Republicans are sincerely outraged by the former FBI director's seashell code, but recent history suggests some skepticism is in order.
https://bsky.app/profile/stevebenen.com

When it comes to the manufactured apoplexy surrounding James Comey, it's worth remembering that Trump has spent years demanding investigations into the former FBI director.

His "8647" seashells on Instagram simply gave Team Trump an excuse to do it wanted to do anyway.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/team-trump-finds-excuse-s-long-wanted-investigate-james-comey-rcna207219

Nearly five years later, a similar story has emerged, and as NBC News reported, it’s generating an even more robust response.

The Department of Homeland Security and Secret Service are investigating a social media post by former FBI Director James Comey that several U.S. officials interpreted as calling for the assassination of President Donald Trump, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said Thursday.


Evidently, Comey shared a photo on Instagram showing seashells arranged to form the numbers “8647.” Republican officials soon after responded with apoplexy, at which point the former FBI director — himself a lifelong Republican — deleted the post and said, “I didn’t realize some folks associate it with violence. That didn’t occur to me when I saw it but I am opposed to violence in all circumstances so I took it down.”

Comey added soon after that he simply assumed that the numbers “were a political message.”....

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard appeared on Fox News and said she wants to see Comey “put behind bars for this.” A variety of GOP lawmakers, including House Speaker Mike Johnson, scrambled to toe the party line and condemn the former FBI director.

Trump himself ultimately joined the parade, in predictably Trumpian fashion.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3lpc47zkqk22g



......When the president first arrived in the White House eight years ago, he saw Comey as an ally — Trump appeared to literally blow a kiss at the then-FBI director at a White House event in January 2017 — thanks in part to Comey’s role in undermining Hillary Clinton’s 2016 candidacy. In time, however, Trump soured on Comey, and ultimately fired him in the hopes of derailing the FBI’s investigation into the president’s Russia scandal.

In the years that followed, Trump continued to target the former FBI director, accusing Comey of “treason,” and even calling for his prosecution over unidentified crimes.

As recently as a few months ago, just days after Trump loyalist Kash Patel was sworn in as the FBI’s newest director, the conservative Washington Times reported that the bureau had opened an investigation into Comey’s role in the FBI’s investigation into Trump’s 2016 campaign.

In other words, Team Trump has long seen Comey as a villain who should be targeted and investigated. His since-deleted Instagram post appears to have given the president’s operation an excuse to do what it wanted to do anyway.

Comey is an idiot. Comey's press conference on the Clinton email investigation was unethical and got trump elected. Comey's stupidity may be a valid defense if charges are brought.

LetMyPeopleVote

(163,402 posts)
33. Comey under investigation for 'threat' to Trump on social media, officials say
Fri May 16, 2025, 01:24 PM
Friday

The Trump administration accused the former FBI director of insinuating a call to violence in his Instagram post, which he denied. Any such charges will be bogus,

Decry weaponization of justice, pretend Musk didn't perform a Nazi salute, but accuse the former FBI of making a death threat.

Ok.

Comey under investigation for ‘threat’ to Trump on social media, officials say

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/202...

David Schatsky (@dschatsky.bsky.social) 2025-05-16T14:29:35.716Z



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/05/16/james-comey-trump-86-fbi/

David Cole, a law professor at Georgetown University, said there is “absolutely no basis” to investigate Comey for allegedly threatening Trump’s life. The Supreme Court has set a “very high standard” in such cases, Cole added, and there is “no way in the world that a photo of this beach arrangement constitutes that.”

Anyone who has studied any First Amendment law would realize this was protected speech," said Cole, the former national legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union. "It might not have been the most discreet or professional post, but it’s 100 percent protected. If anyone should understand the value of indiscreet and irresponsible but nonetheless protected posts on social media, it’s Donald Trump.”

Used as a verb, “86” originated in hospitality, meaning to refuse service to a customer or that a menu item was not available, and its use expanded over time to broadly refer to rejecting, dismissing or removing, according to its dictionary definition. It can also refer to killing something or someone......

And during the 2024 election, Trump shared a video on social media that showed a supporter’s pickup truck driving down a road with a graphic on its tailgate that depicted President Joe Biden tied up. In response, Biden’s campaign accused Trump of “regularly inciting political violence.”

At least one other well-known Republican official has used the term “86” before. In February 2024, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Florida) boasted on X that his political allies had “86’d” three party leaders in recent months. He was responding to the news that Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell would step down from his leadership post in November of that year.

In 2022, the far-right activist Jack Posobiec wrote an X post that said only, “86 46.” Biden was serving as the 46th president at the time. Posobiec is a vocal Trump supporter who has been promoted by Trump on social media and invited to participate in a “new media” briefing at the White House during his second term.

LetMyPeopleVote

(163,402 posts)
34. Comey under investigation for 'threat' to Trump on social media, officials say
Fri May 16, 2025, 01:27 PM
Friday

The Trump administration accused the former FBI director of insinuating a call to violence in his Instagram post, which he denied. Any such charges will be bogus,

Decry weaponization of justice, pretend Musk didn't perform a Nazi salute, but accuse the former FBI of making a death threat.

Ok.

Comey under investigation for ‘threat’ to Trump on social media, officials say

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/202...

David Schatsky (@dschatsky.bsky.social) 2025-05-16T14:29:35.716Z



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/05/16/james-comey-trump-86-fbi/

David Cole, a law professor at Georgetown University, said there is “absolutely no basis” to investigate Comey for allegedly threatening Trump’s life. The Supreme Court has set a “very high standard” in such cases, Cole added, and there is “no way in the world that a photo of this beach arrangement constitutes that.”

Anyone who has studied any First Amendment law would realize this was protected speech," said Cole, the former national legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union. "It might not have been the most discreet or professional post, but it’s 100 percent protected. If anyone should understand the value of indiscreet and irresponsible but nonetheless protected posts on social media, it’s Donald Trump.”

Used as a verb, “86” originated in hospitality, meaning to refuse service to a customer or that a menu item was not available, and its use expanded over time to broadly refer to rejecting, dismissing or removing, according to its dictionary definition. It can also refer to killing something or someone......

And during the 2024 election, Trump shared a video on social media that showed a supporter’s pickup truck driving down a road with a graphic on its tailgate that depicted President Joe Biden tied up. In response, Biden’s campaign accused Trump of “regularly inciting political violence.”

At least one other well-known Republican official has used the term “86” before. In February 2024, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Florida) boasted on X that his political allies had “86’d” three party leaders in recent months. He was responding to the news that Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell would step down from his leadership post in November of that year.

In 2022, the far-right activist Jack Posobiec wrote an X post that said only, “86 46.” Biden was serving as the 46th president at the time. Posobiec is a vocal Trump supporter who has been promoted by Trump on social media and invited to participate in a “new media” briefing at the White House during his second term.

bluetexas

(50 posts)
37. 86 what?
Fri May 16, 2025, 04:12 PM
Friday

I have always thought that 86 meant to throw something in the trash. I used to run an "86 Report" on old computer system in the 1980's that cleared a set of data. I had no idea I was assassinating the data.

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