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highplainsdem

(56,055 posts)
Thu May 15, 2025, 09:52 AM May 15

Harvard's 'stained copy' of Magna Carta is the real deal, say experts

Source: The Times (UK)

A rare Magna Carta document from 1300 has been identified in the US after being sold for just £42 by a First World War flying ace.

The manuscript is believed to be one of only seven surviving from Edward I’s reissue in 1300.

Harvard Law School bought it in 1946 at a Sotheby’s auction where it had been described as a “copy … made in 1327 … somewhat rubbed and damp-stained”.

It had been bought previously from Air Vice-Marshal Forster “Sammy” Maynard who, it is thought, took possession of the document after inheriting the archives of Thomas and John Clarkson, abolitionist brothers who had retired to the Lake District in the late 1700s and befriended William Lowther, the hereditary lord of the manor of Appleby.

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Read more: https://www.thetimes.com/uk/history/article/harvard-magna-carta-genuine-1300-2sl8330x5



This is a real Magna Carta, previously believed lost, that was issued to the former parliamentary borough of Appleby.

And oh, how perfect that it belongs to a university under attack by a president who would be king.

And that it went to Harvard after being sold by a flying ace who inherited it from abolitionists - all of whom would have had contempt for our corrupt, lawless, draft-dodging, racist, DEI-hating president.

Nicholas Vincent, a professor of medieval history who helped verify the old document is genuine, said that "given present problems over liberties, over the sense of constitutional tradition in America," the provenance (history of ownership) couldn't have been better.
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Harvard's 'stained copy' of Magna Carta is the real deal, say experts (Original Post) highplainsdem May 15 OP
That is worth tons of money................... Lovie777 May 15 #1
More importantly, it is a seminal document in the history of democracy. Remember democracy? Martin68 May 15 #2
What is this 'democracy' of which you speak? n/t SpankMe May 15 #5
He would hildegaard28 May 15 #3
K&R orangecrush May 15 #4
Cue Homeland Sec and FBI to confiscate the document as being detrimental to the new plutocratic state of LiberalArkie May 15 #6
Watch President Psychopath claim ownership because it's a ... littlemissmartypants May 15 #7
Dementia Donnie! Dr. T May 15 #8
Symbolic for sure, but maybe "meh" GJGCA May 15 #9
This great news LetMyPeopleVote May 15 #10

Lovie777

(18,556 posts)
1. That is worth tons of money...................
Thu May 15, 2025, 09:58 AM
May 15

shithole is foaming in the mouth, eyes rolled back like a shark, ears cropped.

Martin68

(25,776 posts)
2. More importantly, it is a seminal document in the history of democracy. Remember democracy?
Thu May 15, 2025, 10:23 AM
May 15

hildegaard28

(475 posts)
3. He would
Thu May 15, 2025, 10:25 AM
May 15

Just want to destroy it so when people talk about their rights under the Magna Carta, he can go, “what rights?”

LiberalArkie

(18,264 posts)
6. Cue Homeland Sec and FBI to confiscate the document as being detrimental to the new plutocratic state of
Thu May 15, 2025, 11:10 AM
May 15

American

GJGCA

(18 posts)
9. Symbolic for sure, but maybe "meh"
Thu May 15, 2025, 03:42 PM
May 15

If Wikipedia can be trusted:
Research by Victorian historians showed that the original 1215 charter had concerned the medieval relationship between the monarch and the barons, and not ordinary subjects. The majority of historians now see the interpretation of the charter as a unique and early charter of universal legal rights as a myth that was created centuries later. Despite the changes in views of historians, the charter has remained a powerful, iconic document, even after almost all of its content was repealed from the statute books in the 19th and 20th centuries.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta

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