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groundloop

(12,945 posts)
Tue May 6, 2025, 04:41 PM May 6

Gaza will be entirely destroyed, Israeli minister says

Source: The Guardian

An Israeli government minister has vowed that “Gaza will be entirely destroyed” as a result of an Israeli military victory, and that its Palestinian population will “leave in great numbers to third countries”, raising fears of ethnic cleansing in the occupied territory.

The declaration on Tuesday by the finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich, came a day after Israel’s security cabinet approved a plan for Operation Gideon’s Chariots, which an Israeli official said would entail “the conquest of the Gaza Strip and the holding of the territories”.

[snip]

Effie Defrin, Israel’s chief military spokesperson, said the planned offensive would include “moving most of the population of the Gaza Strip … to protect them”. Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, said the “population will be moved, for its own protection” in a video posted on social media, but gave no further details.

[snip]

“Gaza will be entirely destroyed, civilians will be sent to ... the south to a humanitarian zone without Hamas or terrorism, and from there they will start to leave in great numbers to third countries,” the minister said.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/06/hamas-israel-hunger-war-in-gaza

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Gaza will be entirely destroyed, Israeli minister says (Original Post) groundloop May 6 OP
Netanyahu did say very early on that all living in Palestine (not just Gaza) were Hamas and all Hamas would be killed. LiberalArkie May 6 #1
Jared Kushner has to do something with MBS's Saudi fund money Uncle Joe May 6 #22
The name "Hamas" is just used as a cover for their genocide. That is all. nt Jit423 May 9 #85
I guess never again didn't really mean never. Scrivener7 May 6 #2
It only meant "never again...for US"... regnaD kciN May 7 #51
Sickening Bayard May 6 #3
And Netanyahu and his supporters really believe MadameButterfly May 6 #4
And in Israel they Did have massive demos against Netanyahoo electric_blue68 May 6 #12
Palestinian Diaspora Martin Eden May 6 #5
Wir brauchen Lebensraum!! thomski64 May 7 #42
Not similar, but coming full circle Martin Eden May 7 #46
Complete elimination of all Palestinians, either through death or expulsion, has always been the plan. Lonestarblue May 6 #6
Also have hated the WB's Palestinian land stealing, house and tree grove destruction by the Israeli Jews near by. electric_blue68 May 6 #14
Echoing Himmler. Kid Berwyn May 6 #7
No one has to have this kind of duty Marthe48 May 6 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Bok_Tukalo May 6 #8
Exactly as predicted with the orange pustule back in office. Basso8vb May 6 #9
They only protest against soft targets Zorro May 6 #11
There was a protest just today iemanja May 6 #25
Like I said Zorro May 6 #29
What do you have to say about the 2 million iemanja May 6 #32
WHOOSH! Zorro May 6 #34
Hardly iemanja May 6 #35
To me, it was counterintuitive to start protesting democrats during the last election mdbl May 7 #48
Yes MorbidButterflyTat May 7 #53
Then, Democrats were in charge of military aid to Israel iemanja May 8 #67
Meanwhile, the "Free Palestine" parakeets have gotten really fucking quiet. SoFlaBro May 8 #68
No, they haven't iemanja May 8 #69
Thanks for spamming this thread with a list of PAST EVENTS Zorro May 8 #75
My mistake. Here are some recent and upcoming ones iemanja May 8 #79
Israel is an ally mdbl May 8 #71
You consider a country wiping out an entire population iemanja May 8 #73
I was commenting on why we were involved, not the moral implications or what resulted. mdbl May 8 #74
Indeed, we have been an ally to Israel iemanja May 8 #80
All war is unconscionable. Maybe Hamas will remember that this time before starting one again. mdbl May 9 #81
This isn't war. It's war crime. iemanja May 9 #82
Neither Ukraine or Greenland engaged in an unprovoked assault so it's not a good comparison mdbl May 9 #83
It would be nice if Gazans had a chance to vote iemanja May 9 #84
I said that already didn't I? It does to the rest of the world since they don't know how you personally voted. mdbl May 10 #87
Want to see more TV reporting about the Gaza protests? Zorro May 7 #63
Read the article iemanja May 7 #65
Ever since Trump got elected, seems there has been much less news coverage Jack Valentino May 6 #30
Yes, and some people think that if it's not on their iemanja May 6 #33
Actually, I use a news app more than TV news, anyway, but even there Jack Valentino May 6 #36
I've read about all of that iemanja May 6 #38
That's exactly what's happened. ShazzieB May 6 #40
Post removed Post removed May 7 #58
Ťhe media nowforever May 7 #47
There was one just today, and there is a thread about it on DU now iemanja May 6 #26
A couple of things: no_hypocrisy May 6 #10
Technically Gaza doesn't belong to anyone. Mosby May 7 #59
Palestinians aren't exactly squatters. no_hypocrisy May 7 #60
No, of course not. Mosby May 7 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author Brenda May 7 #62
FU Hamas, Hezbola, AND Netanyahoo! electric_blue68 May 6 #13
The majority of that population are civilians iemanja May 6 #24
I know most Palestinians *are* civilians, and Not Hamas... electric_blue68 May 7 #64
This isn't about Israel's right to exist iemanja May 7 #66
What Netanyahoo is doing in Gaza to force the remaining Palestinians, Gazians out of Gaza and not help rebuild it.... electric_blue68 May 8 #70
What comes around.. nt Exp May 6 #15
As if there ever was any doubt that ethnic cleansing was the goal. West Bank is next. patphil May 6 #16
OMG--- CAREFUL!!!! comparing any action of Israel to the Nazis is "anti-semitic"--- Jack Valentino May 6 #39
I knew it was Smotrich from the hyperbole. maxsolomon May 6 #17
So, 'bibi' further avoids prison and trump gets his gaz-a-lago!! PSPS May 6 #19
Bet Hamas didn't see this coming. republianmushroom May 6 #20
"Gaza will be entirely destroyed" BidenRocks May 6 #21
And they insisted it wasn't genocide iemanja May 6 #23
Benjamin Netanyahu is a WAR CRIMINAL! ProudMNDemocrat May 6 #27
Along with the US, MorbidButterflyTat May 7 #55
I hear this a lot that what is going on in Gaza isn't a genocide. I beg to differ. tornado34jh May 6 #28
Evil shit... LudwigPastorius May 6 #31
I've said it before Iamscrewed May 6 #37
Gaza destroyed and paved over was always the grand plan. Ford_Prefect May 7 #41
Where are the Ceasefire Now protesters? perdita9 May 7 #43
Weird, huh? MorbidButterflyTat May 7 #56
Trump resort provocateur7 May 7 #44
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote May 7 #52
Trump resort provocateur7 May 7 #57
This reminds me of the time when I identified this as Israel's ultimate goal Orrex May 7 #45
Israel will need more than an iron dome to protect themselves after the way their travelingthrulife May 7 #49
What does that mean? maxsolomon May 7 #50
This is pure fucking evil. Netanyahu must be stopped at all costs. Initech May 7 #54
Post removed Post removed May 8 #72
And Turned Over To Jared Kushner Deep State Witch May 8 #76
Sad to say I knew this from the beginning underpants May 8 #77
Who is going to build the beautiful new housing for the displace Gazans like Trump bragged about? Norrrm May 8 #78
Has ummmmmm.... anyone heard from the Gentlewoman from Michigan's District 12...? Montauk6 May 9 #86

LiberalArkie

(18,283 posts)
1. Netanyahu did say very early on that all living in Palestine (not just Gaza) were Hamas and all Hamas would be killed.
Tue May 6, 2025, 04:46 PM
May 6

When he was asked about children, he reiterated that all living in Palestine would be eliminated.

Trump I guess will get his and Vlads condos on the Med.

Uncle Joe

(61,769 posts)
22. Jared Kushner has to do something with MBS's Saudi fund money
Tue May 6, 2025, 09:39 PM
May 6

I believe this is what the Abraham Accords was always about, getting Saudi Arabia on board, and that's why MBS overruled his own fund managers in entrusting an inexperienced Kushner within months after *rump left office the first time.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240927-in-un-speech-netanyahu-holds-map-showing-west-bank-gaza-as-part-of-israel/

Bayard

(25,230 posts)
3. Sickening
Tue May 6, 2025, 04:50 PM
May 6

Just the culmination of trump's and Benji's plan. Other nations stood by and watched it happen. The end of a nation, and its people who are still alive, scattered to the winds.

MadameButterfly

(2,996 posts)
4. And Netanyahu and his supporters really believe
Tue May 6, 2025, 04:52 PM
May 6

that people will leave Israel in peace after this. I feel bad for the people of Israel who didn't vote for this but will be the targets of revenge.

thomski64

(684 posts)
42. Wir brauchen Lebensraum!!
Wed May 7, 2025, 01:45 AM
May 7

Ein Land!! Ein Volk!!
Kampf bis zum Zeig!!!



...not simular to anything historically... ...

Lonestarblue

(12,630 posts)
6. Complete elimination of all Palestinians, either through death or expulsion, has always been the plan.
Tue May 6, 2025, 05:18 PM
May 6

Living in peace with Palestinians was never the plan. Once Gaza is cleared, the days of Palestinians living in the West Bank will also be numbered. Ethnic cleansing will be complete.

electric_blue68

(21,491 posts)
14. Also have hated the WB's Palestinian land stealing, house and tree grove destruction by the Israeli Jews near by.
Tue May 6, 2025, 05:58 PM
May 6

Kid Berwyn

(20,451 posts)
7. Echoing Himmler.
Tue May 6, 2025, 05:23 PM
May 6

“For I did not consider myself justified in exterminating the men—in other words, killing them or having them killed—and then allowing their children to grow up to wreak vengeance on our children and grandchildren. The difficult decision had to be taken to make these people disappear from the face of the earth. For the organization that had to carry out this duty it was the most difficult that we have ever had to undertake.”

Source: https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/exterminationist-mindset-heinrich-himmlers-october-1943-speeches

Marthe48

(20,683 posts)
18. No one has to have this kind of duty
Tue May 6, 2025, 08:13 PM
May 6

I will go to my grave wondering what makes individuals think they do

Response to groundloop (Original post)

iemanja

(56,020 posts)
25. There was a protest just today
Tue May 6, 2025, 09:42 PM
May 6

with a thread on this board. People constantly make the demonstrably false claim that protests have stopped, when they've happened on a weekly basis. And what's happening here is exactly why. Yet you make this about a domestic US party, as though the two million lives in Gaza have no value.

Zorro

(17,429 posts)
29. Like I said
Tue May 6, 2025, 10:02 PM
May 6

soft targets.

Get back to us when the protesters go up against Republican officials.

iemanja

(56,020 posts)
32. What do you have to say about the 2 million
Tue May 6, 2025, 10:43 PM
May 6

Currently being killed?

The protests have been against US policy and investment in a country engaging in genocide. Do you actually think Democrats control policy today?

iemanja

(56,020 posts)
35. Hardly
Tue May 6, 2025, 10:48 PM
May 6

There is nothing insightful about your comments. They are simply mistaken and navel-gazing.

Meanwhile, you can’t manage to comment on the deaths of two million souls.

mdbl

(6,531 posts)
48. To me, it was counterintuitive to start protesting democrats during the last election
Wed May 7, 2025, 07:24 AM
May 7

which is mostly what I saw. I think the point was it didn't help their cause at all to make it look like Biden was to blame for it all and help install a meglomaniac that would ensure even more of the same.

MorbidButterflyTat

(3,018 posts)
53. Yes
Wed May 7, 2025, 04:26 PM
May 7

It's blatantly obvious.

I heard about the protests against Democrats regularly. I've yet to hear of protests against MAGAts. Weird.

iemanja

(56,020 posts)
69. No, they haven't
Thu May 8, 2025, 01:01 AM
May 8

There have been continual protests, including one this week at the University of Washington. Don't make the mistake of thinking that because something isn't on your teevee it isn't happening. Numerous people have posted threads making your same mistaken claim, only to be corrected with lists of protests happening. (see below). It's not possible to look at that list and then claim the protests have stopped.

There are 2 million people in Gaza currently being killed by Israel, financed with our tax dollars. Can't you manage a word of concern for those lives? They have nothing to do with our election.

Some upcoming protests
https://www.protectpalestine.org/protests

https://www.answercoalition.org/join_a_protest_near_you_free_palestine

Upcoming demonstrations
Worcester, MA
Sunday, October 29
3:30 p.m.
Worcester City Hall (455 Main St.)
Sponsored by: JVP Western Mass, Palestinian Youth Movement

Scranton, PA
Sunday, October 29
12:00 p.m.
Lackawanna County Courthouse
Sponsored by: Islamic Center of Scranton, NE Pennsylvania Democratic Socialists of America, and People's' Guild

Denver, CO
Sunday, October 29
2:00 p.m.
Colorado State Capitol
Sponsored by: Colorado Palestine Coalition

Tacoma, WA
Sunday, October 29
4:00 p.m.
1717 Pacific Avenue
Sponsored by: Tacoma Jewish Voice for Peace, Tacoma DSA

San Antonio, TX
Sunday, October 29
2:00 p.m.
301 E Travis St
Sponsored by: San Antonio Party for Socialism and Liberation

Austin, TX
Sunday, October 29
3:00 p.m.
Texas State Capitol
Sponsored by: Palestine Solidarity Committee

Troy, NY
Monday, October 30
5:00 p.m.
Riverfront Park (225 Front St.)
Sponsored by: The Palestinian Rights Committee of Upper Hudson Peace Action, Jewish Voice for Peace Albany, Troy DSA, & Albany Green Party

Fort Wayne, IN
Tuesday, October 31
5:00 p.m.
Allen County Courthouse Green
Sponsored by: Indiana Center for Middle East Peace, Universal Education Foundation, Fort Wayne for Peace

Add a protest near you to our national listing

Past actions
New York City, NY
Sunday, October 8
1:00 p.m.
Times Square (Broadway and 42nd)
Sponsored by: Palestinian Youth Movement, Party for Socialism and Liberation, New York for Palestine, The People's Forum, American Muslims for Palestine, ANSWER Coalition, Al-Awda New York, Palestinian Assembly for Liberation

Washington, D.C.
Sunday, October 8
1:00 p.m.
Lafayette Square
Sponsored by: Palestinian Youth Movement, Maryland2Palestine, ANSWER Coalition, Party for Socialism and Liberation

San Francisco, California
Sunday, October 8
4:00 p.m.
Israeli Consulate
Endorsed by: ANSWER Coalition, SJP @ UC Davis, JVP Bay Area, Bears for Palestine @ UCB, SJP @ Sacramento State, QUIT!, PSL Bay Area, Al-Awda Bay Area, USPCN

Denver, CO
Saturday, October 7
5:00 p.m.
West Steps of Colorado State Capital on Lincoln
Sponsored by: Colorado Palestine Coalition, Denver PSL, Denver Palestine Chapter DSA, Colorado Mayday Club

Philadelphia, PA
Sunday, October 8
12:00 p.m.
Rittenhouse Square Park
Sponsored by: Philly Palestine Coalition

Los Angeles/Anaheim, CA
Sunday, October 8
12:00 p.m.
866 S Brookhurst St, Anaheim, CA
Sponsored by: ANSWER Coalition, Party for Socialism and Liberation, Palestinian Youth Movement, Al-Awda: The Palestine Right to Return Coalition

San Diego, CA
Sunday, October 8
1:00 p.m.
Balboa Park - Bea Evenson Fountain

Chicago, IL
Sunday, October 8
1:00 p.m.
Israeli Consulate (500 W Madison St)
Sponsored by: Chicago Coalition for Justice in Palestine, Students for Justice in Palestine Chicago, USPCN, AMP Chicago

Portland, OR
Sunday, October 8
2:00 p.m.
11 NE MLK Blvd (outside The Dumbbell on the corner of MLK and Burnside)
Sponsored by: ANSWER

Baltimore, MD
Sunday, October 8
2:30 p.m.
Baltimore City Hall (100 Holliday Street)

Tacoma, WA
Sunday, October 8
1:00 p.m.
Tollefson Plaza

Providence, RI
Sunday, October 8
1:00 p.m.
Federal Building and Courthouse, Kennedy Plaza
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation

Boise, ID
Sunday, October 8
3:00 p.m.
Boise City Hall
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation - Idaho

Atlanta, GA
Sunday, October 8
1:00 p.m.
Israeli Consulate (1100 Spring St. NW)
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation - Atlanta

Pittsburgh, PA
Sunday, October 8
2:00 p.m.
Israeli Consulate (1100 Spring St. NW)
Sponsored by: ANSWER Coalition, Pittsburgh Students for Change at Pitt

Homosassa, FL
Sunday, October 8
10:00 a.m.
Corner of Weeki Wachee and Hwy 19
Sponsored by: Nature Coast Coalition for Peace and Justice

Ventura, CA
Sunday, October 8
3:00 p.m.
Ventura City Hall (501 Poli St.)
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation & Students For Justice in Palestine UCSB

Albuquerque, NM
Sunday, October 8
1:00 p.m.
Robinson Park (810 Copper Ave NW)

Dallas, TX
Sunday, October 8
3:00 p.m.
Grassy Knoll - Downtown Dallas
Sponsored by: Palestinian Youth Movement. Dallas Palestine Coalition

Springfield, MO
Sunday, October 8
5:00 p.m.
Park Central Square
Contact springfieldmo@pslweb.org

Anchorage, AK
Sunday, October 8
2:00 p.m.
Martin Luther King Jr. Living Memorial
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation - Anchorage

San Antonio, TX
Sunday, October 8
1:00 p.m.
Mary Louise Station (Fredericksburg & San Antonio Blvd)
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation

Austin, TX
Sunday, October 8
3:00 p.m.
Texas State Capitol
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation - Austin

Salt Lake City, UT
Sunday, October 8
1:00 p.m.
Wallace F. Bennett Federal Building (125 State St)
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation - Salt Lake

Fort Lauderdale, FL
Sunday, October 8
4:30 p.m.
Corner of Sunrise Blvd and US1

Kirkland, WA
Sunday, October 8
3:30 p.m.
Peter Kirk Park
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation

Tampa, FL
Sunday, October 8
2:00 p.m.
56th and Fowler
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation, Resistance of Tampa Bay

Martinsburg, WV
Sunday, October 8
5:00 p.m.
Martinsburg Town Square
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation

Durham, NC
Sunday, October 8
4:00 p.m.
Raleigh Moore Square

Cleveland, OH
Monday, October 9
5:30 p.m.
Market Square on Lorain & W 25th
Sponsored by: Party For Socialism and Liberation - Northeast Ohio, The Palestinian Youth Movement, Al-Awda - The Palestinian Right to Return Coalition

Minneapolis, MN
Monday, October 9
6:00 p.m.
Senator Klobuchar's office @ 1200 S Washington Ave Minneapolis
Sponsored by: Anti-War Committee

Albany, NY
Monday, October 9
4:00 p.m.
Corner of Wolf Road and Central Ave
Sponsored by: Grannies for Peace

New York City, NY
Monday, October 9
2:00 p.m.
Zionist embassy (800 2nd Ave.)
Sponsored by: Within Our Lifetime, Samidoun, CUNY School of Law Students for Justice in Palestine, Decolonize This Place, Existence Is Resistance, CUNY for Palestine

Ormond Beach, FL
Monday, October 9
4:00 p.m.
SE corner of Granada & Beach
Sponsored by: Daytona Workers' League

New Haven, CT
Monday, October 9
3:00 p.m.
New Haven City Hall (165 Church Street)
Sponsored by: Connecticut Democratic Socialists of America; Yalies for Palestine; Semilla Collective; Greater New Haven Peace Council; Wesleyan Students for Justice in Palestine; and the Party for Socialism and Liberation

Rochester, NY
Monday, October 9
2:00 p.m.
MLK Park (353 Court St)
Sponsored by: Witness Palestine Rochester, FTP Rochester, ROC DSA, PSL FLX

Milwaukee, WI
Monday, October 9
5:00 p.m.
2312 N Holton St
Sponsored by: Milwaukee4Palestine, PSL Milwaukee

Albany, NY
Tuesday, October 10
5:00 p.m.
Townsend Park
Sponsored by: ANSWER Coalition, Capital District DSA, Bard College SJP

Des Moines, IA
Tuesday, October 10
6:30 p.m.
Cowles Commons (221 Walnut Street)
Sponsored by: PSL Iowa. Endorsed by: Central Iowa DSA, Des Moines Black Liberation Movement, Des Moines Mutual Aid, Denver 4 Mayor, Des Moines People's Town Hall

Indianapolis, IN
Thursday, October 12
5:30 p.m.
Monument Circle
Sponsored by: Students for Justice in Palestine - Butler University, ANSWER Indiana, Jewish Voice for Peace - Indiana, Party for Socialism and Liberation - Indianapolis

Louisville, KY
Thursday, October 12
11:30 a.m.
University of Louisville campus
Sponsored by: Louisville Students for Justice in Palestine

Champaign-Urbana, IL
Thursday, October 12
4:00 p.m.
Alma Mater
Sponsored by: Students for Justice in Palestine UIUC

Reno, NV
Thursday, October 12
5:00 p.m.
The Plaza at 400 S Virginia

Milwaukee, WI
Thursday, October 12
1:00 p.m.
5235 S. 27th St., Greenfield
Sponsored by: Milwaukee Muslim Women’s Coalition, Jewish Voice for Peace–Milwaukee, Wisconsin Muslim Civic Alliance, Islamic Society of Milwaukee, Racine Coalition for Peace and Justice, Milwaukee Anti-war Committee, American Muslims for Palestine, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee’s Students for Democratic Society, Adalah Justice Group, Syrian American Medical Society-Milwaukee, Peace Action Wisconsin, Students for Justice in Palestine at UWM, Marquette University and UW-Madison, Arab and Muslim Women’s Research and Resource Institute, Muslim American Society, Friends of Palestine WI, Milwaukee Islamic Dawa Center, Al-Quran Foundation among many others.

Columbus, OH
Thursday, October 12
5:00 p.m.
Ohio Statehouse
Main Organizer: Students for Justice in Palestine at OSU; endorsing organizations: Party for Socialism and Liberation, Somali Students Association at OSU, Muslim Students Association at OSU, Dabke Troupe at OSU, Arab Student Union at OSU, Jordanian Student Organization at OSU, Mu Delta Alpha Kappa at OSU, Western Sahel Student Association at OSU, Organization of Arab Students at OSU, PASA at OSU, Rising Tide Columbus, Communist Party USA, Palestinian Youth Movement, Revolutionary Student Front Columbus

Kennewick, WA
Thursday, October 12
4:15 p.m.
Ankeny Field, Walla Walla
Sponsored by: PSL, Students for Justice in Palestine

Kennewick, WA
Thursday, October 12
5:00 p.m.
Spokane City Hall
Sponsored by: PSL

Las Vegas, NV
Thursday, October 12
5:00 p.m.
Lloyd D George courthouse (333 S Las Vegas Blvd)
Sponsored by: Nevadans for Palestinian Liberation, Fifth Sun Project, Red Desert Collective

Minneapolis, MN
Thursday, October 12
4:30 p.m.
Gateway Park in St. Paul
Sponsored by: Minnesota Peace Action Coalition

New York City, NY
Friday, October 13
3:00 p.m.
Times Square (Between 42nd and 41st on Broadway)
Sponsored by: Majlis Ash-Shura Islamic Leadership Council of New York, Al-Awda New York, Palestinian Youth Movement, Party for Socialism and Liberation, New York for Palestine, The People's Forum, American Muslims for Palestine, ANSWER Coalition, Within Our Lifetimes, Palestinian Assembly for Liberation

Philadelphia, PA
Friday, October 13
6:00 p.m.
City Hall (West Side)
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation, Philadelphia Liberation Center

Port Richey, FL
Friday, October 13
7:30 a.m.
Corner of Route 19 and Ridge Road, Port Richey
Sponsored by: Florida Peace Action Network; Partners for Palestine; CADSI

Syracuse, NY
Friday, October 13
4:00 p.m.
Starting at Syracuse Federal Building (100 S. Clinton Street)
Sponsored by: Syracuse PSL, Syracuse DSA, Syracuse Peace Council

Lakewood, CO
Friday, October 13
5:00 p.m.
Colorado State Capital Steps
Sponsored by: Colorado Palestine Coalition, Colorado Mayday Club, Denver DSA Palestine Committee

Seattle, WA
Friday, October 13
5:30 p.m.
Cal Anderson Park
Sponsored by: PSL, ANSWER

Harrisburg, PA
Friday, October 13
4:00 p.m.
Harrisburg Capitol

Pittsburgh, PA
Friday, October 13
3:00 p.m.
Intersection of Forbes Ave. and Bigelow Blvd
Sponsored by: FOSNA, Anti-Zionist Jews of Pittsburgh, CAIR, Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL), ANSWER Coalition, New Afrikan Independence Party, Boycott Divestment Sanctions Pittsburgh (BDS), Pittsburgh Palestine Solidarity Committee, Students for Justice in Palestine at Pitt, Progressive Students for Change at Pitt, Pittsburgh Antiwar Committee, Thomas Merton Center, Sankofa Gatherings, Abolitionist Law Center

San Francisco, CA
Saturday, October 14
12:00 p.m.
San Francisco Ferry Building -- Harry Bridges Plaza (Near Embarcadero BART)
Sponsored by: Palestinian Youth Movement, U.S. Palestinian Community Network, ANSWER Coalition, Party for Socialism and Liberation, Workers World Party, Arab Resources and Organizing Center, Al-Awda, QUIT!, International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network, Palestinian Feminist Collective, American Friends Service Committee, Art Forces, Teaching Palestine

Washington, D.C.
Saturday, October 14
1:00 p.m.
Lafayette Square
Sponsored by: American Muslims for Palestine

Detroit/Dearborn, MI
Saturday, October 14
2:00 p.m.
5700 Greenfield Rd, Dearborn, MI 48126
Sponsored by: Palestinian Youth Movement, SAFE, WSU SJP, MSU SJP, OU SJP

Los Angeles, CA
Saturday, October 14
12:30 p.m.
Israeli consulate (11766 Wilshire Blvd.)

Sacramento, CA
Saturday, October 14
12:00 p.m.
16th and J Street downtown
Sponsored by: Sacramento Regional Coalition for Palestinian Rights, ANSWER, DSA, PSL, Palestine America League, Students for Justice in Palestine at CSU Sacramento

Burlington, VT
Saturday, October 14
4:00 p.m.
City Hall Park
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation

Seattle, WA
Saturday, October 14
1:00 p.m.
Westlake
Sponsored by: Samidoun Seattle, JVP Seattle, SUPERUW, Beldaan, ANSWER, Falastiniyat, ILPS

Denver, CO
Saturday, October 14
4:00 p.m.
Denver State Capitol
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation - Denver, Colorado Palestinian Coalition

Duluth, MN
Saturday, October 14
1:00 p.m.
MN Power Plaza (Lake Ave and Superior St)
Sponsored by: Northwoods Socialist Collective, Northland Grandmothers for Peace, CPUSA

Cincinnati, OH
Saturday, October 14
4:00 p.m.
Ziegler Park (1322 Sycamore St.)
Sponsored by: UC Muslim Student Association, Arab Student Association

Kansas City, MO
Saturday, October 14
2:00 p.m.
Plaza Memorial Fountain
Sponsored by: AL-HADAF KC

Louisville, KY
Saturday, October 14
2:00 p.m.
Big Four Bridge @ Waterfront Park
Sponsored by: PSL Louisville, Louisville Students for Justice in Palestine, CPUSA, Young Communist League, YDSA, IMT Louisville

Chicago, IL
Saturday, October 14
2:00 p.m.
Michigan and Ida B Wells Drive
Sponsored by: The Chicago Coalition for Justice in Palestine

Houston, TX
Saturday, October 14
2:00 p.m.
901 Bagby St
Sponsored by: Palestinian Youth Movement

Nashville, TN
Saturday, October 14
4:30 p.m.
801 Broadway

Cincinnati, OH
Saturday, October 14
4:00 p.m.
Ziegler Park (1322 Sycamore St.)
Sponsored by: UC Muslim Student Association, Arab Student Association

Lancaster, PA
Sunday, October 15
3:00 p.m.
Penn Square
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation

Minneapolis, MN
Sunday, October 15
3:00 p.m.
Bryant Square Park in Minneapolis
Sponsored by: Anti-War Committee (Freedom Road Socialist Organization), American Muslims for Palestine, Students for Justice in Palestine, PSL Minneapolis

San Jose
Sunday, October 15
1:00 p.m.
Santana Row (Winchester & Stevens Creek)

Ithaca, NY
Sunday, October 15
3:00 p.m.
Bernie Milton Pavilion/Ithaca Commons
Sponsored by: Ithaca Committe for Justice in Palestine-Jewish Voice for Peace (CJP_JVP), Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL-FLX), and others

Fort Wayne, IN
Sunday, October 15
12:00 p.m.
Allen County Courthouse Green
Sponsored by: Indiana Center for Middle East Peace, Universal Education Foundation, Islamic Center of Fort Wayne

Martinsburg, WV
Sunday, October 15
11:00 a.m.
Martinsburg Town Square
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation

Peoria, IL
Sunday, October 15
2:00 p.m.
Main & University

Turlock, CA
Sunday, October 15
12:00 p.m.
3100 Countryside Dr Suite 100
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation - Central Valley, Central Valley Black Indigenous People of Color Coalition

Austin, TX
Sunday, October 15
3:00 p.m.
Texas state Capitol
Sponsored by: Palestinian Solidarity Committee (PSC) and PSL Austin

Dallas, TX
Sunday, October 15
12:00 p.m.
Akard Plaza (1500 Marilla St)
Sponsored by: Palestinian Youth Movement, Dalles Anti-war Committee, Muslim American Society, Students for Justice in Palestine, Dallas Palestine Coalition, Muslim Alliance for Black Lives

San Diego, CA
Sunday, October 15
2:00 p.m.
San Diego County Administration Building
Sponsored by: Palestinian Youth Movement, SDSU Students for Justice in Palestine, UCSD Students for Justice in Palestine, American Muslims for Palestine SD, PSL SD

Charlotte, NC
Sunday, October 15
2:00 p.m.
First Ward Park
Sponsored by: Palestinian American Community Center, Al Awda Right of Return Coalition, Party for Socialism and Liberation

Raleigh, NC
Sunday, October 15
4:00 p.m.
Moore Square
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation; Muslims for Social Justice; Samidoun Palestinian Prisoner Solidarity Network; Voices for Justice in Palestine; Refund Raleigh; Migrant Roots Media; Workers World Party; Triangle Democratic Socialists of America

Gainesville, FL
Sunday, October 15
2:00 p.m.
Corner of University Ave and Waldo Rd

Lodi, CA
Sunday, October 15
2:00 p.m.
1050 S Stockton St
Sponsored by: Muslim Community of San Joaquin

East Meadow, NY
Sunday, October 15
1:00 p.m.
1550 Franklin Ave, Mineola NY 11501
Sponsored by: Muslim Community of Nassau County

Santa Rosa, CA
Sunday, October 15
11:30 a.m.
Courthouse Square
Sponsored by: JVP/North Coast Coalition for Palestine

Philadelphia, PA
Sunday, October 15
5:00 p.m.
Rittenhouse Square Park
Sponsored by: Philly Palestine Coalition

Spokane, WA
Monday, October 16
5:00 p.m.
Spokane City Hall
Sponsored by: PSL

Albany, NY
Monday, October 16
4:00 p.m.
Leo O'Brien Federal Building
Sponsored by: Palestinian Rights Committee (PRC)

Springfield, MO
Monday, October 16
6:00 p.m.
Park Central Square
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation

Washington, D.C.
Monday, October 16
12:00 p.m.
Farragut Square
Sponsored by: IfNotNow, Jewish Voice for Peace

Boston, MA
Monday, October 16
5:00 p.m.
Copley Square
Sponsored by: Palestinian Youth Movement, PSL, MIT CAA, BSAC, BU SJP, Wellesley SJP, Tufts SJP, Harvard PSC and GS4P

Columbia, SC
Tuesday, October 17
5:30 p.m.
South Carolina State House (1100 Gervais St)
Sponsored by: Students for Justice in Palestine at University of South Carolina, Party for Socialism and Liberation

Houghton, MI
Tuesday, October 17
5:00 p.m.
Veterans Memorial Park (Memorial Rd)
Sponsored by: Keweenaw Socialists

Las Cruces, NM
Tuesday, October 17
12:00 p.m.
New Mexico State University
Sponsored by: Students for Socialism and Muslim Students Association

Washington, D.C.
Tuesday, October 17
8:00 p.m.
Lafayette Square
Sponsored by: Palestinian Youth Movement

Washington, D.C.
Wednesday, October 18
11:00 a.m.
Capitol Hill, exact location TBA
Sponsored by: IfNotNow, Jewish Voice for Peace

Portsmouth, NH
Wednesday, October 18
5:00 p.m.
Market Square
Sponsored by: Occupy NH Seacoast

Pittsfield, MA
Thursday, October 19
4:30 p.m.
Intersection of Merrill Rd and Plastics Ave, in front of General Dynamics
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation, Berkshire Communists

Buffalo, NY
Thursday, October 19
2:00 p.m.
100 Coventry Rd
Sponsored by: UB Students for Justice in Palestine

Denver, CO
Thursday, October 19
3:30 p.m.
Rep. Diana DeGette's Denver Office (600 Grant St.)
Sponsored by: Jewish Voice for Peace, IfNotNow

Dallas, TX
Thursday, October 19
3:00 p.m.
Dallas Morning News Building (1954 Commerce St)
Sponsored by: Palestinian Youth Movement

Cambridge, MA
Thursday, October 19
5:00 p.m.
MIT Student Center, 84 Massachusetts Ave
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation, MIT AAI, MIT Black Student Union, MIT Black Graduate Student Association, Palestine @ MIT, MIT Reading for Revolution, MIT Divest, MIT CAA, MIT Student Worker Alliance

St. Louis, MO
Friday, October 20
6:00 p.m.
Art Hill, Forest Park
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation

Ozone Park, NY
Friday, October 20
2:00 p.m.
Front of 24/7 Laundromat 7402 101st Ave (Ozone Park NY 11416)
Sponsored by: Ozone Park Bangladeshi Community

Washington, D.C.
Friday, October 20
12:00 p.m.
National Mall, 3rd St between Madison and Jefferson
Sponsored by: Rising Majority, U.S. Campaign for Palestinian Rights (USCPR), Adalah Justice Project (AJP), Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP), Dream Defenders (DD), Rising Majority (RM), Movement for Black Lives (M4BL), Working Families Party (WFP), American Muslims for Palestine (AMP), Arab Resource and Organizing Center (AROC), Center for Popular Democracy (CPD), People's Action (PA), Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), Showing Up for Racial Justice (SURJ), IfNotNow, 18 Million Rising

Utica, NY
Friday, October 20
4:00 p.m.
Utica City Hall to Oneida Square
Sponsored by: Members of the Mohawk Valley Muslim community

Baltimore, MD
Friday, October 20
6:00 p.m.
Baltimore City Hall
Sponsored by: Runners4Justice, Party for Socialism & Liberation, the Bloc is Baltimore, Friends of Latin America

Racine, WI
Friday, October 20
5:00 p.m.
909 Dr. Martin Luther King Drive
Sponsored by: Racine Coalition for Peace & Justice

New York, NY
Friday, October 20
5:00 p.m.
Bryant Park
Sponsored by: Jewish Voice for Peace, NYC-DSA, Adalah Justice Project, Desis Rising Up and Moving (DRUM)

Atlanta, GA
Friday, October 20
4:00 p.m.
CNN Center, near Centennial Olympic Park
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation, Students for Justice in Palestine, Palestinian Youth Movement, The Black Alliance for Peace, Georgia Muslim Voter Project, Kennesaw State Muslim Student Association

Anchorage, AK
Saturday, October 21
3:00 p.m.
The Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Living Memorial (Corner of L St. & 9th Ave)
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation - Anchorage

Providence, RI
Saturday, October 21
1:00 p.m.
RI State House Steps
PSL Rhode Island, ANWER Coalition, Jewish Voice For Peace Rhode Island, Direct Action For Rights And Equality: DARE, CPUSA-RI

Philadelphia, PA
Saturday, October 21
5:30 p.m.
City Hall

Bayridge, New York
Saturday, October 21
2:00 p.m.
72nd St and 5th Avenue
Sponsored by: Within Our Lifetime (WOL), Samidoun Palestinian Prisoner Solidarity Network, Existence is Resistance, Decolonize This Place, Muslim American Society New York (MSA-NY), John Jay College Students for Justice in Palestine, CUNY For Palestine, CUNY Law Students for Justice in Palestine, Lehman College Students for Justice in Palestine, College of Staten Island Students for Justice in Palestine, City College of New York Students for Justice in Palestine, Long Island University Brooklyn Muslim Students Association, Hunter College Palestine Solidarity Alliance

Tallahassee, FL
Saturday, October 21
12:00 p.m.
400 S. Monroe St. (S. Monroe St. and Apalachee Pkwy)

New Hartford, NY
Saturday, October 21
11:00 a.m.
Commercial Drive (Consumer Square intersection) to Seneca Turnpike
Sponsored by: Members of the Mohawk Valley Muslim community

Cleveland, OH
Saturday, October 21
2:00 p.m.
Public Square, Downtown
Sponsored by: Al-Awda

Springfield, MO
Saturday, October 21
2:00 p.m.
Corner of South and Walnut
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation

Denver, CO
Saturday, October 21
3:00 p.m.
State Capitol, West Steps (200 E Colfax Ave)
Sponsored by: Colorado Palestine Coalition

Washington, D.C.
Saturday, October 21
12:00 p.m.
Washington Monument
Sponsored by: American Muslims for Palestine (AMP), U.S. Council of Muslim Organizations (USCMO)

Fort Lauderdale, FL
Saturday, October 21
4:00 p.m.
299 E Broward Blvd
Sponsored by: SJP, JVP, Al-Awda

Los Angeles, CA
Saturday, October 21
12:00 p.m.
Pershing Square
Sponsored by: Palestinian Youth Movement (PYM), Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP), CAIR California, Al-Awda, Muslim American Society, American Muslims for Palestine (AMP), Islamic Shura Council, Palestinian American Women's Association, ANSWER Coalition, Union of Palestinian American Muslims

Columbus, OH
Saturday, October 21
2:00 p.m.
Ohio Statehouse
Sponsored by: Students for Justice in Palestine Ohio State University

Coatesville, PA
Saturday, October 21
1:00 p.m.
Intersection of Lincoln Highway East and 3rd Ave
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation - Chester County

Houston, TX
Saturday, October 21
2:00 p.m.
City Hall
Sponsored by: Palestinian Youth Movement (PYM), Palestinian American Cultural Center (PACC), Palestinian American Council (PAC), U.S. Palestinian Community Network (USPCN), Rice Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP)

San Luis Obispo, CA
Saturday, October 21
3:30 p.m.
SLO Downtown, Monterey and Churro

Milwaukee, WI
Saturday, October 21
11:00 a.m.
Dontre Hamilton Park (Red Arrow Park -- 920 W Water St)
Sponsored by: Wisconsin Coalition for Justice in Palestine

Norfolk, VA
Saturday, October 21
3:00 p.m.
Corner of St. Pauls Blvd and City Hall Ave.
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation

Lawrence, KS
Saturday, October 21
12:00 p.m.
Lawrence Train Park (Buford M. Watson, Jr. Park - 727 Kentucky St)
Sponsored by: Rally for Palestine - Lawrence

Sacramento, CA
Saturday, October 21
12:00 p.m.
California State Capitol West Steps
Sponsored by: Sacramento Regional Coalition for Palestinian Rights, ANSWER, PSL, DSA, JCP, CAIR, Palestine America League, Sacramento Area Peace Action, JVP, United Methodist Palestine Task Force, SJP CSUS, Sac State Students for Socialism

Baltimore, MD
Friday, October 27
6:00 p.m.
Cowles Commons (221 Walnut Street)
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation Iowa, Des Moines Black Liberation Movement, Des Moines Mutual Aid, Central Iowa DSA, Des Moines People's Town hall, Denver For Mayor, Middle East Peace and Education Coalition

Yonkers, NY
Friday, October 27
4:00 p.m.
Yonkers War Memorial 1 South Broadway (Corner of Nepperhan Avenue)
Sponsored by: Jewish Voice For Peace - Westchester

Portland, ME
Friday, October 27
3:00 p.m.
Outside of Chellie Pingree's office (2 Fish Pier)
Sponsored by: Maine Voices for Palestinian Rights

Omaha, NE
Friday, October 27
4:00 p.m.
72nd and Dodge Street
Sponsored by: Nebraskans for Peace, Palestinian Rights Task Force

Flagstaff, AZ
Friday, October 27
7:00 a.m.
Flagstaff City Hall
Sponsored by: Jewish Voice For Peace - Westchester

Asheville, NC
Friday, October 27
6:00 p.m.
Buncombe County Courthouse (60 Court Plaza)
Sponsored by: Party for Socialism and Liberation

Orono Maine
Saturday, October 28
12:00 p.m.
UMaine Folger Library

Brainerd, MN
Saturday, October 28
1:00 p.m.
Intersection of Sixth and Washington Streets (Across from the Historic Brainerd Water Tower)
Sponsored by: Brainerd Area Coalition for Peace (BACP), Brainerd Lakes United Environmentalists (BLUE), and Brainerd Lakes Area Democratic Socialists of America (BLA DSA)

Portland, OR
Saturday, October 28
2:00 p.m.
Lownsdale Square
Sponsored by: AntiwarMN, SJP, AMP

Rochester, NY
Saturday, October 28
12:00 p.m.
Liberty Pole Way
Sponsored by: PSL, FTP ROC, ROC Voices for Palestine, US Campaign for Palestinian Rights, ROC DSA

Phoenixville, PA
Saturday, October 28
1:00 p.m.
Corner of Bridge & Main Sts

Zorro

(17,429 posts)
75. Thanks for spamming this thread with a list of PAST EVENTS
Thu May 8, 2025, 06:26 PM
May 8

and a much smaller list of upcoming events IN OCTOBER.

Nothing like staying current.

iemanja

(56,020 posts)
79. My mistake. Here are some recent and upcoming ones
Thu May 8, 2025, 08:00 PM
May 8

Here are some recent ones for you:
Columbia, yesterday: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/05/08/columbia-university-palestine-gaza-war-protest-arrests-nypd/?msockid=08d36d553cb06ffe263c78893def6e9b

Earlier this week: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/education/3402030/pro-palestinian-protesters-arrested-university-of-washington/

Some upcoming protests, including links to recurring protests is some states. Weekly in the case of MN and MD.
https://uscpr.org/pro-palestine-protests/

A few upcoming in May:
https://palestinecampaign.org/events/

An FBI raid on protestors: https://www.msn.com/en-us/crime/general/fbi-raids-part-of-complex-dance-between-police-pro-palestinian-protesters-near-ann-arbor/ar-AA1Emlnb?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Then there is the fact that a number of Palestinian protestors have had their Visas revoked and are currently locked up or have been deported.

Clearly your claim that the protests have stopped is patently false.

iemanja

(56,020 posts)
73. You consider a country wiping out an entire population
Thu May 8, 2025, 04:30 PM
May 8

an ally? Is that the kind of foreign relations you want to promote? Who should be eradicated next? Why not let Russia exterminate Ukrainians? Russia is the current administration’s ally. Perhaps we should follow Israel’s example and kill all Canadians and Mexicans?

Palestine isn’t a nation and therefore lacks international standing to be an ally, which you well know. Additionally, our tax dollars are paying for their extermination.

mdbl

(6,531 posts)
74. I was commenting on why we were involved, not the moral implications or what resulted.
Thu May 8, 2025, 06:18 PM
May 8

As far as the ally issue, this predates Pres Dump by decades. Whatever he does to Fuck things up worse for our other allies is a different discussion. If this is going to be the permanent trajectory of our country, nothing will get better.

iemanja

(56,020 posts)
80. Indeed, we have been an ally to Israel
Thu May 8, 2025, 08:03 PM
May 8

We have indeed fed their war machine for decades, and that is an ugly stain on our foreign policy. I can't think what Israel does to be an ally with us. Its principal efforts have been to try to draw us into a war with Iran. I don't care what the excuse is: funding the killing of 2 million people is unconscionable.

mdbl

(6,531 posts)
81. All war is unconscionable. Maybe Hamas will remember that this time before starting one again.
Fri May 9, 2025, 07:29 AM
May 9

But probably not.

iemanja

(56,020 posts)
82. This isn't war. It's war crime.
Fri May 9, 2025, 10:03 AM
May 9

and extermination. Attacks against civilians are illegal, and Israel’s stated purpose is to wipe them all out. Israeli forces target medical facilities, humanitarian workers, children, and are intentionally starving the Palestinian people. All of that is illegal. Annexation of foreign lands is also illegal.

Do you also support Russia’s designs on the Ukraine, or Trump’s on Canada or Greenland?

Oct 7 is a pretext, not the reason.

mdbl

(6,531 posts)
83. Neither Ukraine or Greenland engaged in an unprovoked assault so it's not a good comparison
Fri May 9, 2025, 06:04 PM
May 9

The people who vote for their government are responsible for the actions of that government. Even though not everyone in Gaza was a Hamas supporter, enough were. Just like we all now will have to deal with the fallout from this bunch of criminals running the U.S. voted in by very stupid people.

iemanja

(56,020 posts)
84. It would be nice if Gazans had a chance to vote
Fri May 9, 2025, 09:39 PM
May 9

Last edited Fri May 9, 2025, 10:33 PM - Edit history (1)

But there hasn’t been an election in a generation. For that election 19 years ago, Netanyahu gave money to prop up Hamas as a counterweight to the Palestinian Authority so as to avoid a two-state solution. He bears more responsibility for Hamas than Gaza’s residents, who, despite your false claim, did not vote for Hamas or anyone else.

You know who just had an election: the US. I guess that makes you and I Nazis with no regard for the law, according to your justification for the Gazan eradication.



mdbl

(6,531 posts)
87. I said that already didn't I? It does to the rest of the world since they don't know how you personally voted.
Sat May 10, 2025, 10:17 AM
May 10

And since they see no definitive action to stop it yet, yes that is how we are perceived.

Zorro

(17,429 posts)
63. Want to see more TV reporting about the Gaza protests?
Wed May 7, 2025, 06:51 PM
May 7

Try protesting against some fucking Republicans for a change.

And you aren't really helping your position by exaggerating the death toll to date in Gaza.

iemanja

(56,020 posts)
65. Read the article
Wed May 7, 2025, 11:51 PM
May 7

They want to clear out Gaza. That’s 2 million people they will have to murder to take over. That’s the population of Gaza.

The protests are against the Republicans in power. They sure as hell aren’t against the party out of power.

Jack Valentino

(2,111 posts)
30. Ever since Trump got elected, seems there has been much less news coverage
Tue May 6, 2025, 10:33 PM
May 6

of whatever has been going on in Gaza, as well as little coverage of the protests against it....

at least on whatever US-based news I get. Probably should watch more foreign news...

iemanja

(56,020 posts)
33. Yes, and some people think that if it's not on their
Tue May 6, 2025, 10:46 PM
May 6

teevee, it doesn’t exist. Then there are those who simply don’t care about the murder of 2 million Palestinians.

Jack Valentino

(2,111 posts)
36. Actually, I use a news app more than TV news, anyway, but even there
Tue May 6, 2025, 10:53 PM
May 6

I have seen very few stories about Gaza in the past 6 months-- until recently---
I had not read about Israel shutting down food shipments into Gaza, for instance....

Actually, I had been wondering what was happening there,
but the "highchair Hitler" has been 'flooding the zone' so much
with bad news for America, coverage of events elsewhere have not been getting through



iemanja

(56,020 posts)
38. I've read about all of that
Tue May 6, 2025, 10:59 PM
May 6

even on DU, and I’m not particularly thorough in my news consumption. I do not, however, watch TV news except for a few clips on You Tube.

I think you’re right about our own tyrant dominating most news coverage.

ShazzieB

(20,715 posts)
40. That's exactly what's happened.
Tue May 6, 2025, 11:44 PM
May 6

It's been well nigh impossible to absorb and process more than a fraction of the never-ending circus of insanity we've been living with in the U.S. these last few months, not to mention protesting against it. I dont know about anyone else, but to me it's felt like a constant blizzard of crazy since January 20.

It's no wonder a lot of us have lost track of things that are going on abroad. I plead guilty as charged. ✋️🥵

Response to iemanja (Reply #33)

nowforever

(514 posts)
47. Ťhe media
Wed May 7, 2025, 07:23 AM
May 7

Which had nonstop coverage of the Gaza war and protests right up to election day. It was front page in NY Times every day in October. Clearly the agenda was get the Orange Turd elected so Gaza could be annihilated along with its people.

iemanja

(56,020 posts)
26. There was one just today, and there is a thread about it on DU now
Tue May 6, 2025, 09:46 PM
May 6

Your claim has been made countless times on this site, and the OPs have always been corrected with lists of protests happening throughout the US. Yet people continue to make the same demonstrably false claim. Why? Why does the truth matter so little?

no_hypocrisy

(51,665 posts)
10. A couple of things:
Tue May 6, 2025, 05:43 PM
May 6

1. Gaza doesn't belong to Israel. That land isn't theirs to destroy or otherwise. If anything, Israel owes war reparations to the inhabitants of Gaza.

2. I don't want my tax dollars going to Israel to use to destroy Gaza. Yes, I know that's not exactly why our country is giving the money to Israel. But money is fungible. The money is budgeted elsewhere, freeing up money for Israel to use for other purposes, such as destroying Gaza. Indirectly, my tax dollars are going to a purpose which I disapprove.

Mosby

(18,540 posts)
59. Technically Gaza doesn't belong to anyone.
Wed May 7, 2025, 05:21 PM
May 7

The Palestinian leadership rejected the partition plan.

Mosby

(18,540 posts)
61. No, of course not.
Wed May 7, 2025, 06:07 PM
May 7

But there isn't an actual Palestinian country either.

They would need to negotiate with Israel per UN Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338. I don't believe they are willing to do that at this point for whatever reason.

Response to Mosby (Reply #61)

iemanja

(56,020 posts)
24. The majority of that population are civilians
Tue May 6, 2025, 09:40 PM
May 6

Last edited Tue May 6, 2025, 10:47 PM - Edit history (1)

and Hamas did not force Israel to do this. Oct 7 was a mere excuse.

electric_blue68

(21,491 posts)
64. I know most Palestinians *are* civilians, and Not Hamas...
Wed May 7, 2025, 07:57 PM
May 7

But some civilians support Hamas.

And what was Israel supposed to do? I condemn the extreme warring Netanyahoo has done/is doing.

I would have preferred much more ?covert operations of IDF soldiers going after the caches, and groups of Hamas in the tunnels, under hospitals etc instead of massive bombing!

But from their pov that would have endangered too many IDF. Obviously we've seen some of them as well acting in very rouge ways!

I support Israel's right to exist since Jews have lived in that area for millenia, but I can also reject some of their actions as well in regards to the Palestinians.
It's not always easy having sympathy in certain situations for both groups.

iemanja

(56,020 posts)
66. This isn't about Israel's right to exist
Wed May 7, 2025, 11:55 PM
May 7

They are clearing out Gaza and killing every last Palestinian. This is about Israel’s decision to expand as an empire. No country has that right.

How is it that people were outraged when Trump suggested taking over Gaza, but when Israel does it we hear
excuses?

electric_blue68

(21,491 posts)
70. What Netanyahoo is doing in Gaza to force the remaining Palestinians, Gazians out of Gaza and not help rebuild it....
Thu May 8, 2025, 01:12 AM
May 8
is wrong.

I don't support this, nor turning it into some "Trumpland by the sea".

patphil

(7,856 posts)
16. As if there ever was any doubt that ethnic cleansing was the goal. West Bank is next.
Tue May 6, 2025, 08:05 PM
May 6

From the river to the sea is an Israeli vision for the future. All they needed was an excuse to carry out their end game.
How very Nazi of them.
Note: I'd rather be wrong, but that would involve denying what I see, read, hear, and feel.

Jack Valentino

(2,111 posts)
39. OMG--- CAREFUL!!!! comparing any action of Israel to the Nazis is "anti-semitic"---
Tue May 6, 2025, 11:08 PM
May 6

no matter how Nazi-like their actions are!


Frankly EVEN THE NAZIS did not intend to completely destroy the countries which they took over...
although they DID intend to completely destroy or drive out any Jews in those countries---
sounds a little like what the Israeli government is trying to do in Gaza---
just substitute Palestinians for Jews and there you have it!


Personally, I don't give a damn about whether anyone is Jewish or not,
I have never harbored any hatred for them as a group, I am indifferent---
VERY sorry for what the Nazis did to them in World War II---

and very sorry to see the Israeli government beginning to resemble what the Nazis did to them.


All the rabid pro-Israel adherents can save their breath,
I am DONE with the government of Israel, and I don't give a a goddamn whether they are JEWISH or not---
They could be Baptists and I would hate them just as much, but not for that reason.

ALL US MILITARY AID TO ISRAEL SHOULD BE CUT OFF!

maxsolomon

(36,567 posts)
17. I knew it was Smotrich from the hyperbole.
Tue May 6, 2025, 08:07 PM
May 6

Smotrich doesn't set the policy.

There is no "humanitarian zone" in the south. The south of what? Gaza? Hamas is in 100% of Gaza. He has to mean Sinai, but Egypt is a non-starter. There are no "third countries" that will accept Gazans.

MorbidButterflyTat

(3,018 posts)
55. Along with the US,
Wed May 7, 2025, 04:49 PM
May 7

North Korea, China, India, and Russia, Israel does not recognize the ICC.

Hm. Coincidence?

tornado34jh

(1,478 posts)
28. I hear this a lot that what is going on in Gaza isn't a genocide. I beg to differ.
Tue May 6, 2025, 09:56 PM
May 6

A genocide does not have to only be the result of killing. According to the UN definition of it, it also includes "Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction, in whole or in part" In other words, "Intent to destroy".

The Lemkin Institute has put 10 patterns of Genocide. I think some of the them fit what is going on
https://www.lemkininstitute.com/ten-patterns-of-genocide

Also, here is another one from Genocide Watch
https://www.genocidewatch.com/tenstages

The fact is, Netanyahu and the Likud party have people with war crimes in their midst.

perdita9

(1,256 posts)
43. Where are the Ceasefire Now protesters?
Wed May 7, 2025, 05:33 AM
May 7

They were everywhere prior to the election, screaming about genocide and attacking democratic leaders. Now they've gone quiet. Does this issue not matter to them anymore? Are they happy that their support of Jill Stein and Trump made this possible? Are they scared?

A lot of people from Middle Eastern descent have been targeted by ICE so being scared makes sense but, let's face it, Ceasefire Now isn't exactly modeling courage these days. I attend a weekly protest and they never show.

Orrex

(65,220 posts)
45. This reminds me of the time when I identified this as Israel's ultimate goal
Wed May 7, 2025, 06:54 AM
May 7

And Bibi's cheerleaders called me a pro-Hamas antisemite who wants Israel driven into the sea.

travelingthrulife

(2,368 posts)
49. Israel will need more than an iron dome to protect themselves after the way their
Wed May 7, 2025, 09:21 AM
May 7

leadership has behaved.

Initech

(104,940 posts)
54. This is pure fucking evil. Netanyahu must be stopped at all costs.
Wed May 7, 2025, 04:42 PM
May 7

And so must the head bad guy - Vladimir Putin. He falls, the rest will fall.

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Norrrm

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78. Who is going to build the beautiful new housing for the displace Gazans like Trump bragged about?
Thu May 8, 2025, 06:51 PM
May 8
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