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mahatmakanejeeves

(64,796 posts)
Fri May 2, 2025, 06:41 PM May 2

Judge rules Trump executive order targeting law firm Perkins Coie is unconstitutional

Source: CBS News

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Judge rules Trump executive order targeting law firm Perkins Coie is unconstitutional

By Melissa Quinn
May 2, 2025 / 6:33 PM EDT / CBS News

Washington -- A federal judge ruled Friday that President Trump's executive order targeting the law firm Perkins Coie is unconstitutional and permanently blocked the administration from enforcing it.

In a 102-page decision, U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell ruled in favor of the firm and said Mr. Trump's directive that sought to punish it sent the message that "lawyers must stick to the party line, or else."

"Using the powers of the federal government to target lawyers for their representation of clients and avowed progressive employment policies in an overt attempt to suppress and punish certain viewpoints, however, is contrary to the Constitution, which requires that the government respond to dissenting or unpopular speech or ideas with 'tolerance, not coercion,'" Howell wrote.

She found that the executive order violates the First, Fifth, and Sixth Amendments to the Constitution.

This is a developing story and will be updated.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-executive-order-perkins-coie-law-firm-unconstitutional/



Hat tip, Max-1 🔫+cult(R)☠️ at Joe.My.God.

https://www.joemygod.com/2025/05/white-house-gave-waltz-list-of-jobs-to-choose-from/

White House Gave Waltz List Of Jobs To Choose From
May 2, 2025

https://www.joemygod.com/2025/05/white-house-gave-waltz-list-of-jobs-to-choose-from/#comment-6698792493

Kyle Cheney‬
‪@kyledcheney.bsky.social‬

JUST IN: Judge HOWELL rules forcefully in favor of Perkins Coie against Trump's punitive executive order, comparing him to a Shakespearean character who famously called to "kill all the lawyers" in order to amass power.

ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show...

Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney.bsky.social) 2025-05-02T22:26:17.764Z


JUST IN: Judge HOWELL rules forcefully in favor of Perkins Coie against Trump's punitive executive order, comparing him to a Shakespearean character who famously called to "kill all the lawyers" in order to amass power.

https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2025cv0716-185

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From Chris Geidner:

BREAKING: Federal judge rules that President Donald Trump's executive order targeting the Perkins Coie law firm — the first of several such orders — is unconstitutional and, accordingly, "null and void."

Background at Law Dork on the original TRO in the case: www.lawdork.com/p/perkins-co...

Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner.bsky.social) 2025-05-02T22:52:11.047Z
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Judge rules Trump executive order targeting law firm Perkins Coie is unconstitutional (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves May 2 OP
There is some good news! Balatro May 2 #1
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote May 2 #2
Do we think he will obey? tblue37 May 3 #30
I think they'll probably appeal. I'll be surprised if they get a stay pending appeal onenote May 3 #33
That's nice JoseBalow May 2 #3
Well it might at least encourage some of the cowardly law firms BumRushDaShow May 2 #7
I STILL don't understand why they would do that Skittles May 2 #18
Well their "cloaks" have now been ripped off BumRushDaShow May 3 #28
Agree mamacita75 May 2 #9
Judge Howell has ruled for Perkins Coie, holding that Donald Trump's executive order targeting the firm was unconstituti LetMyPeopleVote May 2 #4
Thanks for the link. NT mahatmakanejeeves May 2 #5
Here is a link to the 100+ page opinion LetMyPeopleVote May 2 #8
Between Beryl Howell and Amy Berman Jackson BumRushDaShow May 2 #6
Here is the link to the 100+ page opinion LetMyPeopleVote May 2 #10
180 pages? For a ruling of constitutionality? ancianita May 2 #16
102 pages. And the district court had a lot to address onenote May 3 #27
Righteous Ruling CitizenZero May 2 #11
Someone needs to clue me in on what he does that is NOT unconstitutional. MLWR May 2 #12
Is there a Trump executive order that ISN'T unconstitutional? dchill May 2 #13
so this begs the question....... Takket May 2 #14
Yep. They aren't scared, they're collaborators. ❤️ littlemissmartypants May 2 #17
Exactly. PSPS May 2 #24
So donald, shove it. republianmushroom May 2 #15
No Shite! Cha May 2 #19
Now the ones who capitulated will have that egg on their face and moniss May 2 #20
EVERYTHING Trump is doing is illegal Bluetus May 2 #21
It just dumbfounds me that so much time has passed and he's still here ailsagirl May 3 #25
Makes it appear that law firms that kissed Donnie Dipshits ass maxrandb May 2 #22
Another judge he'll want impeached, or arrested Bayard May 2 #23
So many of Trump's executive orders have been over turned by the courts - at what point does the court 33taw May 3 #26
That isn't how the judicial system works. onenote May 3 #29
I know. But they do stop frivolous lawsuits and these seem to be no different. 33taw May 3 #31
Some of Trump's EO's have been upheld. None have been ruled "frivolous" onenote May 3 #32
I was just annoyed and know that it is not a possibility. 33taw May 3 #34

LetMyPeopleVote

(163,924 posts)
2. This makes me smile
Fri May 2, 2025, 06:49 PM
May 2

This makes me smile

Big loss in court for Trump

Federal judge rules President’s executive order targeting law firm Perkins Coie is unconstitutional and permanently blocked the administration from enforcing it.

www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-e...

Scott MacFarlane (@macfarlanenews.bsky.social) 2025-05-02T22:38:48.036Z

Big loss in court for Trump

Federal judge rules President’s executive order targeting law firm Perkins Coie is unconstitutional and permanently blocked the administration from enforcing it.



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-executive-order-perkins-coie-law-firm-unconstitutional/

Washington — A federal judge ruled Friday that President Trump's executive order targeting the law firm Perkins Coie is unconstitutional and permanently blocked the administration from enforcing it.

In a 102-page decision, U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell ruled in favor of the firm and said Mr. Trump's directive that sought to punish it sent the message that "lawyers must stick to the party line, or else."

"Using the powers of the federal government to target lawyers for their representation of clients and avowed progressive employment policies in an overt attempt to suppress and punish certain viewpoints, however, is contrary to the Constitution, which requires that the government respond to dissenting or unpopular speech or ideas with 'tolerance, not coercion,'" Howell wrote.

She found that the executive order violates the First, Fifth, and Sixth Amendments to the Constitution.

This is a developing story and will be updated.

onenote

(45,267 posts)
33. I think they'll probably appeal. I'll be surprised if they get a stay pending appeal
Sat May 3, 2025, 11:03 AM
May 3

But I've been surprised before.

Skittles

(164,559 posts)
18. I STILL don't understand why they would do that
Fri May 2, 2025, 08:54 PM
May 2

WHO THE FUCK WOULD HIRE A LAW FIRM THAT CAVES INTO UNCONSTITUTIONAL THREATS??? Makes ZERO sense to me.

BumRushDaShow

(153,499 posts)
28. Well their "cloaks" have now been ripped off
Sat May 3, 2025, 05:26 AM
May 3

and they have been exposed as unreliable (which is why you are having more and more partners/members leaving them).

BumRushDaShow

(153,499 posts)
6. Between Beryl Howell and Amy Berman Jackson
Fri May 2, 2025, 06:55 PM
May 2

I don't know how they do this day in and day out, week after week, month after month, year after year.

Howell was the Chief Judge of that court until a couple years ago when James Boasberg took over that role (and that's another "familiar" name ).

ancianita

(40,516 posts)
16. 180 pages? For a ruling of constitutionality?
Fri May 2, 2025, 08:31 PM
May 2

Guess they've got to give SCOTUS a lot to run with.
Or get themselves "confused" about during oral arguments.

onenote

(45,267 posts)
27. 102 pages. And the district court had a lot to address
Sat May 3, 2025, 03:53 AM
May 3

The complaint had at least eight separate counts and the government raised multiple defenses to each count. And then the court had to address the separate elements of the test for granting injunctive relief. Not a surprise that it would be as long an opinion as it is.

Takket

(22,983 posts)
14. so this begs the question.......
Fri May 2, 2025, 08:12 PM
May 2

I saw this on bluesky:

Importantly - if any law firm decides to continue gifting expert pro bono services to protect and effectuate the admin’s violence and destruction - this ruling means they’re doing it because they want to. Trump is legally toothless to punish them. Pro bono work provided is support, not compliance.

PSPS

(14,565 posts)
24. Exactly.
Fri May 2, 2025, 10:36 PM
May 2

Willingly giving something of value in the furtherance of a crime (i.e., trump's shakedown,) is, itself, a federal felony. So these legal firms are committing federal felonies by doing this.

moniss

(7,357 posts)
20. Now the ones who capitulated will have that egg on their face and
Fri May 2, 2025, 09:03 PM
May 2

who would want to do business with lawyers that obviously won't stand up for what is right and legal?

Bluetus

(1,086 posts)
21. EVERYTHING Trump is doing is illegal
Fri May 2, 2025, 09:04 PM
May 2

The President has no power to shut down agencies or end programs that are properly appropriated by Congress. It has no power to deport people without due process, and straight down the line. Unfortunately, Trump has spent his whole life abusing the court system to get away with all sorts of criminal activity. It is gratifying to see so many cases decided on an expedited docket, and practically all of them are coming down against Trump.

But we also need some cases against the extortion/bribery racket Trump has been running with his inauguration scam. He's taken in about a quarter-billion in bribes already. I realize that bribery is usually a criminal offense and this DoJ won't pursue that. But I wonder if there are any civil angles or any angles to prosecute this extortion racket in state courts.

ailsagirl

(24,183 posts)
25. It just dumbfounds me that so much time has passed and he's still here
Sat May 3, 2025, 01:07 AM
May 3

I had naively thought that once the courts were involved, that the lawbreaking would be swiftly resolved.
As it is, it's feels as if we're mired in quicksand. Maybe it's just me.

maxrandb

(16,567 posts)
22. Makes it appear that law firms that kissed Donnie Dipshits ass
Fri May 2, 2025, 09:16 PM
May 2

Were prone to kissing his ass in the first place.

Bayard

(25,302 posts)
23. Another judge he'll want impeached, or arrested
Fri May 2, 2025, 09:47 PM
May 2

I just hope all that rule against him have the courage to keep thumping him.

33taw

(3,173 posts)
26. So many of Trump's executive orders have been over turned by the courts - at what point does the court
Sat May 3, 2025, 01:18 AM
May 3

enter an order stopping him from issuing executive orders because they are so lame and a total waste of the court's time.

onenote

(45,267 posts)
32. Some of Trump's EO's have been upheld. None have been ruled "frivolous"
Sat May 3, 2025, 10:58 AM
May 3

And the bar for blocking frivolous lawsuits is quite high.

As much as we might want him to be barred from issuing, its never going to happen and we should focus on the do-able.

33taw

(3,173 posts)
34. I was just annoyed and know that it is not a possibility.
Sat May 3, 2025, 11:58 AM
May 3

I fully understand the Judicial system.

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