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BumRushDaShow

(153,492 posts)
Fri May 2, 2025, 05:02 PM May 2

US steps back from peace talks, saying it won't mediate between Russia and Ukraine

Source: The Independent

Friday 02 May 2025 16:26 EDT


The US will no longer mediate between Russia and Ukraine, leaving the two countries themselves to work out how to end the war, a state department official says. Tammy Bruce said American envoys would no longer fly around the world “at the drop of a hat” to act as a go-between in peace talks.

It was now “between the two parties” to present concrete ideas on how the conflict would end, she insisted, although the US remained committed to helping. She said the US was changing the methodology of how it contributed to the conflict, adding: “We will not be the mediators.”

US president Donald Trump and vice-president JD Vance have both previously warned that they could walk away from peace talks if there was no progress in negotiations on a ceasefire.

On Thursday, Secretary of State Marco Rubio said that either there would need to be a breakthrough towards peace “very soon” or Mr Trump would have to decide how much time the US would dedicate to the conflict. “This is not our war,” he said.

Read more: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/europe/ukraine-russia-trump-peace-talks-war-b2744049.html

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US steps back from peace talks, saying it won't mediate between Russia and Ukraine (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2 OP
"We are seeking bold, fresh new ways to be international a-holes." - Krasnov (R-Felon) BoRaGard May 2 #1
And thus begins our journey from global leaders to global pig-me's BeyondGeography May 2 #2
So, then keep your fucking mouths shut from this day forward!! bluestarone May 2 #3
What about the mineral deal?...... Lovie777 May 2 #4
That's all they cared about BumRushDaShow May 2 #6
I never felt that it was anything but a scam moniss May 3 #20
It seems so, and fairly obvious that Trump acted in bad faith Redleg May 4 #26
Trump is now officially all in for Putin. twodogsbarking May 2 #5
Isee it just the opposite Locutusofborg May 2 #10
Posturing? Much of the mineral wealth is already behind russian lines. No way trump double crosses putin for real. Marcuse May 2 #14
From that map, it's mainly coal that's located under invaded land Emrys May 2 #17
Trump hates Zelensky/Ukraine and would throw them under the bus in a heartbeat. Irish_Dem May 3 #19
That's not the way I see it. Trump got his mineral deal, and that's worth more to him than a phony deal with Russia. Martin68 May 3 #22
Presidenting is hard ain't it Donald 2MuchNoise May 2 #7
He does know, he hasn't done any yet. republianmushroom May 2 #13
No, he hasn't. 2MuchNoise May 2 #15
50 months and counting, 1258 days to possible go, hopefully not. republianmushroom May 2 #16
Lazy AF maxsolomon May 2 #8
Art Iamscrewed May 2 #9
Something about a promise to end the war in 24 hours. Norrrm May 2 #11
FAIL! BaronChocula May 2 #12
What???? Ukraine signed on the line... BurnDoubt May 3 #18
This turned out far better than I thought it would. Trump now has a real incentive to support Ukraine and Martin68 May 3 #21
Agree. The news that the US is selling weapons to UKR is also good Kaleva May 4 #25
It never was "mediating" under Turnip. He was in the tank for Putin from the beginning. nt eppur_se_muova May 3 #23
So Another Trump Failure MissouriDem47 May 3 #24

bluestarone

(19,831 posts)
3. So, then keep your fucking mouths shut from this day forward!!
Fri May 2, 2025, 05:14 PM
May 2

STAY OUT OF IT completely!! Works for me, because Ukraine will kick their ass.

BumRushDaShow

(153,492 posts)
6. That's all they cared about
Fri May 2, 2025, 05:32 PM
May 2

and once they got some framework together and agreed to (in order to milk the country of its natural resources), they're done, like good little vulture capitalists.

moniss

(7,357 posts)
20. I never felt that it was anything but a scam
Sat May 3, 2025, 06:30 AM
May 3

with them dangling some cloudy references to "security".

Locutusofborg

(568 posts)
10. Isee it just the opposite
Fri May 2, 2025, 05:48 PM
May 2

Trump is now in bed with Zelenskyy because of the minerals deal. And it looks like that's the way Russia sees it too.
"Russia worries about a U.S. tilt toward Ukraine after minerals deal
Since the new administration’s start, it seemed Russia’s needs and views of the war were being promoted by Trump officials, but the tone appears to be changing."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/05/02/russia-reaction-minerals-deal-ukraine-trump/

Marcuse

(8,445 posts)
14. Posturing? Much of the mineral wealth is already behind russian lines. No way trump double crosses putin for real.
Fri May 2, 2025, 09:15 PM
May 2

Emrys

(8,636 posts)
17. From that map, it's mainly coal that's located under invaded land
Fri May 2, 2025, 11:41 PM
May 2

Nobody has a clear idea of what deposits of what minerals are where in Ukraine because the last comprehensive surveys were conducted by the Soviets up to 60 years ago, and Ukraine will need to carry out new ones with modern technology if and when Putin can be encouraged to get to fuck.

A widespread assumption is that Trump and those who've encouraged him to pursue this deal have an exaggerated idea of the extent and value of the deposits. It at least seems to have unlocked Trump's stonewalling of arms sales to Ukraine.

Irish_Dem

(70,219 posts)
19. Trump hates Zelensky/Ukraine and would throw them under the bus in a heartbeat.
Sat May 3, 2025, 06:08 AM
May 3

Trump has a signed deal for mineral rights.
That is the only thing he cares about.
He will protect the minerals.

Martin68

(25,854 posts)
22. That's not the way I see it. Trump got his mineral deal, and that's worth more to him than a phony deal with Russia.
Sat May 3, 2025, 02:16 PM
May 3

If he works with Russia, Russia will end up getting control of the minerals.

republianmushroom

(20,055 posts)
16. 50 months and counting, 1258 days to possible go, hopefully not.
Fri May 2, 2025, 10:58 PM
May 2

Last edited Sat May 3, 2025, 11:22 AM - Edit history (1)

Some day, hopefully soon.

It is 1358 not 1258, sorry.

BurnDoubt

(553 posts)
18. What???? Ukraine signed on the line...
Sat May 3, 2025, 02:35 AM
May 3

I'm pretty sure that makes it a "Conflict of Interest", doesn't it? I wonder who walks away with all the chips? Wasn't that a "Dick Dastardly" plot? Nothing's New.

Martin68

(25,854 posts)
21. This turned out far better than I thought it would. Trump now has a real incentive to support Ukraine and
Sat May 3, 2025, 02:15 PM
May 3

get out of the waste of time of negotiating with Putin.

MissouriDem47

(170 posts)
24. So Another Trump Failure
Sat May 3, 2025, 08:56 PM
May 3

Didn't he claim that he would get a peace deal done on his first day in office? So another Trump failure.

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