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SouthBayDem

(32,890 posts)
Fri May 2, 2025, 01:30 AM May 2025

In DC Speech, Charles Koch Speaks of 'the Mess' He Sees the Country In

Source: Time

Charles Koch never uttered his name, but it was mighty clear that President Donald Trump was on his, and everyone else’s, mind Thursday night at a glitzy gala that might have as well have been Koch Con.

“With so much change, and chaos, and conflict, too many people and organizations are abandoning these principles and turning to power to solve problems,” said the 89-year-old billionaire industrialist behind some of the most formidable organizations on the political Right. “But we know from history, this just makes them worse.

“People have forgotten that when principles are lost, so are freedom and progress,” he added at the gala convened in his honor by the Cato Institute, the libertarian think tank he founded.

Charles Koch has long been a foe of protectionism and an evangelist for free markets, competitive advantage, and mutual benefit. In fact, the remarks he delivered Thursday evening—just a few minutes of efficiently coded winks and nods sprinkled with quotes from philosophical favorites Friedrich Hayek and Frederick Douglass—could just as easily have come a decade ago or a decade later.

Read more: https://time.com/7282130/charles-koch-speech-trump-tariffs/



I wonder whose name he really should have uttered.
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In DC Speech, Charles Koch Speaks of 'the Mess' He Sees the Country In (Original Post) SouthBayDem May 2025 OP
FU Chuckles. Hassler May 2025 #1
That's Rich Punx May 2025 #2
He's YOUR Frankenstein, Charles. nt SunSeeker May 2025 #3
Quit yer bitchin' Charlie! HappyLarge May 2025 #4
I hope he realizes that his Cato Institute ideas have morphed into LiberalArkie May 2025 #5
The Cato Institute came into being AFTER the Heritage Foundation. valleyrogue May 2025 #13
I am sorry, I always phrase things incorrectly. I was indicating that the conservative viewpoints that the Koch brothers LiberalArkie May 2025 #14
Vomit comes up in my throat BigmanPigman May 2025 #6
You put him into power Charles. E.S.A.D. Botany May 2025 #7
Yeah, Chuckles, MLWR May 2025 #8
Turning 90, eh...? Montauk6 May 2025 #9
Fuck you charlie. You funded this notsee takeover. Clouds Passing May 2025 #10
Any word from anyone that is spoken against the orange devil is a good thing. Especially someone as powerful PortTack May 2025 #11
"Libertarians" were the ones who created the mess 100 years ago and caused valleyrogue May 2025 #12
He, his father, and his brother, gave birth to and financed all of this! Grins May 2025 #15
You broke it, you own it! 50 Shades Of Blue May 2025 #16
"Victor Frankenstein, student of natural philosophy at the University of Ingolstadt, expresses concern that the creature Aristus May 2025 #17
Please die already. maxsolomon May 2025 #18
CHARLES KOCH IS THE ANTICHRIST. His money bought Citizens United AND SCOTUS. He IS Proj 2025 and all privatization. ancianita May 2025 #19
Bit fucking late now, Charlie - from April 2024: muriel_volestrangler May 2025 #20

HappyLarge

(66 posts)
4. Quit yer bitchin' Charlie!
Fri May 2, 2025, 02:30 AM
May 2025

You paid good money to create the perfect petri dish to spawn Stupid Hitler. You broke the system that made you rich, you and your billionaire buddies.

LiberalArkie

(18,804 posts)
5. I hope he realizes that his Cato Institute ideas have morphed into
Fri May 2, 2025, 02:55 AM
May 2025

The facist ideals of the Heritage Foundation, but I don’t guess it matters much as they did get their plutocracy. And that was their goal in the first place

valleyrogue

(2,267 posts)
13. The Cato Institute came into being AFTER the Heritage Foundation.
Fri May 2, 2025, 10:55 AM
May 2025

It was founded in 1977 with Koch money, while the Heritage Foundation was founded in 1973, with the financial backing of Joseph Coors.

LiberalArkie

(18,804 posts)
14. I am sorry, I always phrase things incorrectly. I was indicating that the conservative viewpoints that the Koch brothers
Fri May 2, 2025, 11:12 AM
May 2025

had originally expressed with the Cato Institute are not the ideals they express now. If they had expressed at the start where they are now thing might have been different.

It seems like most of these places started off with trying to abolish integration. And once they started adopting viewpoints from like minded folks they morphed into the fascist viewpoints. Of course I believe that the Kochs and others always strived to the oligarchy and plutocracy systems, but they could not express those at the beginning. That was just their wet dreams more or less.

I think that with all these groups really "pushing the envelope" further and further, we might come out of all this a better country. Of course we might not come out of it.

BigmanPigman

(53,481 posts)
6. Vomit comes up in my throat
Fri May 2, 2025, 04:01 AM
May 2025

whenever I hear his name as a donor on PBS.

That greedy, hypocritical spawn of Satan should have been aborted in the womb. The world would be a much better place if both he and his evil brother never took a breath.



*But that's just my own opinion and I stand by it.

Botany

(75,113 posts)
7. You put him into power Charles. E.S.A.D.
Fri May 2, 2025, 04:39 AM
May 2025

Eat shit and die. The current republicans party, our dirty ass court system, and those 10s of millions of
fire breathing idiots be them citizens for prosperity, MAGA dumb fucks, proud boys, and science
deniers are your offspring. Without you Krasnov would never have been President.




MLWR

(485 posts)
8. Yeah, Chuckles,
Fri May 2, 2025, 06:47 AM
May 2025

In the immortal words of your very own Herman Cain: "Blame yourself." You had a big hand in putting him who shall be nameless in the postition he know holds.

Montauk6

(9,195 posts)
9. Turning 90, eh...?
Fri May 2, 2025, 10:05 AM
May 2025

Whassa matter, old man??? Sweatin' that trip to the Great Gig in the Sky?

THIS is what your Ayn Rand worshippin', Lazy Fairy tale, Austrian economics system that (surprise, surprise) couldn't pick Vienna on a map if it was thumbtacked, GOT us to!!!

PortTack

(35,705 posts)
11. Any word from anyone that is spoken against the orange devil is a good thing. Especially someone as powerful
Fri May 2, 2025, 10:44 AM
May 2025

And influential with the ppl that can and hopefully will take him down.

One can only imagine what went thru orange man’s mind when he heard that. Especially knowing he can’t touch koch…it not a bad thing! Just a useful tool…for now.

valleyrogue

(2,267 posts)
12. "Libertarians" were the ones who created the mess 100 years ago and caused
Fri May 2, 2025, 10:52 AM
May 2025

the Great Depression, which necessitated all the programs and regulations in order to save capitalism in the U.S., and they are the main ones causing the mess now.

Koch is as anti-American as they come.

Grins

(8,759 posts)
15. He, his father, and his brother, gave birth to and financed all of this!
Fri May 2, 2025, 12:02 PM
May 2025

Don’t like it, Charles? Look in a damn mirror!

The effing brass ones on this guy.

Aristus

(70,659 posts)
17. "Victor Frankenstein, student of natural philosophy at the University of Ingolstadt, expresses concern that the creature
Fri May 2, 2025, 12:24 PM
May 2025

he created is getting out of control. Frankenstein disavowed responsibility for his creature's rampage, however."

ancianita

(41,446 posts)
19. CHARLES KOCH IS THE ANTICHRIST. His money bought Citizens United AND SCOTUS. He IS Proj 2025 and all privatization.
Fri May 2, 2025, 03:24 PM
May 2025

muriel_volestrangler

(104,429 posts)
20. Bit fucking late now, Charlie - from April 2024:
Fri May 2, 2025, 03:38 PM
May 2025
The review by Accountable.US also found that oil billionaire Charles Koch’s network directed over $4.4 million in 2022 to organizations on Project 2025’s advisory board via its donor conduit, Stand Together Trust.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/leonard-leo-koch-networks-pour-millions-prep-potential-second-trump-ad-rcna144360

Jan 27, 2025:
Charles Koch’s network launches $20m campaign backing Trump tax breaks

Americans for Prosperity (AFP), the flagship political arm of the rightwing network formed by the fossil fuels billionaire Charles Koch and his late brother David, is launching a multimillion-dollar campaign backing Donald Trump’s plans to extend tax cuts and roll back federal regulations.

A private fundraising letter from AFP to its secretive list of donors, seen by the Guardian, outlines the organization’s strategy for the first six months of the new Trump administration.

The eight-page document, made public here for the first time, promises a “herculean undertaking” in which AFP says it will press for renewed and deepened tax cuts and an “unwinding [of] as many of the growth and innovation killing regulations as possible”.

The group, which has played a significant role in shifting the Republican party to the right in recent years, has announced a $20m campaign to extend the tax cuts introduced by Trump during his first presidency that are due to expire at the end of this year. The donor appeal calls for even bolder tax cuts for corporations that would directly benefit Koch Industries, the energy and chemicals giant from which most of AFP’s funding derives.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/27/koch-americans-for-prosperity-trump-tax-breaks

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