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OnlinePoker

(5,959 posts)
Thu May 1, 2025, 11:07 AM May 1

Republicans Vote Against Move to Stop ICE Deporting US Citizens

Source: Newsweek

House Republicans have voted down an effort to block immigration enforcers from using federal resources to detain or deport U.S. citizens.

During a House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday, Democrats tabled amedments to a sweeping budget bill that President Donald Trump has dubbed "one big, beautiful bill."

One amendment introduced by Representative Pramila Jayapal, the Democrat from Washington state, sought to make clear Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) cannot detain or deport U.S. citizens under any circumstances.

However, GOP lawmakers killed the amendment.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-vote-against-ice-deporting-us-citizens-2066548



So frigging sick. As a Canadian, I can't stand to see what's becoming of the States.
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Republicans Vote Against Move to Stop ICE Deporting US Citizens (Original Post) OnlinePoker May 1 OP
Come on Supreme Court kacekwl May 1 #1
They need a case melm00se May 1 #6
If the supreme court really cared, markodochartaigh May 1 #11
No. ShazzieB May 1 #14
One of the litigants made up markodochartaigh May 1 #18
This is true. ShazzieB May 1 #20
It's the far right that arranges to brakester May 1 #28
Sure Cirsium May 1 #26
They don't have to kacekwl May 1 #22
The law and order party. Ha Ha Ha republianmushroom May 1 #2
That gave us a 34 convictions felon RainCaster May 2 #30
Republicans have mentioned the answer.... take away the citizenship. Norrrm May 1 #3
This is fodder JustAnotherGen May 1 #4
These people are traitors to our country and our democracy. Deporting CITIZENS? Citizens get their day in court (as Martin68 May 1 #5
Part of the issue is citizen children of undocumented. erodriguez May 1 #7
No. We don't need a provision to remove 1WorldHope May 1 #9
So if the law says you can't send them with their parents are reported, erodriguez May 1 #15
Bingo! 1WorldHope May 1 #23
There is. murielm99 May 1 #10
I guess it's official: MLWR May 1 #8
neither can we. It's sickening and inhumane. Evolve Dammit May 1 #12
Well, you can imagine how we feel here! ananda May 1 #13
Full on Iamscrewed May 1 #16
History will not be kind to these tiny, cruel men. Magoo48 May 1 #17
I just heard about this. Sickening to the extreme. Repubs have hit a new low, amazingly. LymphocyteLover May 1 #19
As if we needed another reason... GiqueCee May 1 #21
As far as they are concerned, there are only 1100 or so 'Americans' in this country. OldBaldy1701E May 2 #32
Remember their names and hold them accountable Mysterian May 1 #24
Deport everyone who voted against it. Wonder Why May 1 #25
It's a matter for the courts. Not a whimsical GOP Congress. /nt bucolic_frolic May 1 #27
Unfortunately... Godot51 May 2 #29
There is no such thing as "deporting" citizens. HappyLarge May 2 #31
Never forget how they voted. They have violated their oaths. surfered May 2 #33
IOW voting to ignore the cours and the Constitution azureblue May 2 #34

kacekwl

(8,296 posts)
1. Come on Supreme Court
Thu May 1, 2025, 11:14 AM
May 1

You can't DEPORT citizens of the United States period. Open your lazy mouths. Stand for the constitution damn it.

ShazzieB

(20,772 posts)
14. No.
Thu May 1, 2025, 01:55 PM
May 1

It doesn't work that way.

The Supreme Court didn't make up the case you cited. Cases are brought to them, and they choose which ones they want to rule on.

markodochartaigh

(2,945 posts)
18. One of the litigants made up
Thu May 1, 2025, 02:15 PM
May 1

their case out of whole cloth using a fictitious person. The supremacist court took the case because they wanted to make a particular ruling. They have already made the big jump, it is just a small hop to getting a bespoke case made up for them.

ShazzieB

(20,772 posts)
20. This is true.
Thu May 1, 2025, 02:33 PM
May 1

I was just responding to your statement that SCOTUS could "just have someone make something up."

There are certainly conservative organizations that look for cases they can bring to contest some law or previous court ruling they don't like (and liberal ones that do the same thing). I just don't think the Court engineers those things themselves, as your comment implied. I do think they often pick and choose cases like this one to rule on, but that's not quite the same thing.

Getting someone to make up a bespoke case would be a risky maneuver, and they don't need to take a risk like that. They know the cases are going to come to them. All they have to do is wait.

brakester

(349 posts)
28. It's the far right that arranges to
Thu May 1, 2025, 05:40 PM
May 1

find a case, find a conservative venue and put it in motion.
Something the Dems are starting to learn from.

Cirsium

(2,549 posts)
26. Sure
Thu May 1, 2025, 03:39 PM
May 1

That reminds me of President Lincoln when he pointed out the probable collusion between Buchanan (the White House), Douglass (the Senate opposition leader) and Taney (the Supreme Court Chief Justice).

Let any one who doubts, carefully contemplate that now almost complete legal combination -- piece of machinery so to speak -- compounded of the Nebraska doctrine, and the Dred Scott decision. Let him consider not only what work the machinery is adapted to do, and how well adapted; but also, let him study the history of its construction, and trace, if he can, or rather fail, if he can, to trace the evidence of design and concert of action, among its chief architects, from the beginning.
...

We cannot absolutely know that all these exact adaptations are the result of preconcert. But when we see a lot of framed timbers, different potions of which we know have been gotten out at different times and places and by different workmen,- Stephen, Franklin, Roger and James, for instance-and we see these timbers joined together, and see they exactly make the frame of a house or a mill, all the tenons and mortieses exactly fitting, and all the lengths and proportions of the different pieces exactly adapted to their respective places, and not a piece too many or too few-not omitting even scaffolding-or, if a single piece be lacking, we see the place in the frame exactly fitted and prepared to yet bring such piece in-in such a case, we find it impossible not to believe that Stephen and Franklin and Roger and James all understood one another from the beginning, and all worked upon a common plan or draft drawn up before the first lick was struck.

https://www.nps.gov/liho/learn/historyculture/housedivided.htm


Stephen Douglas: If any one man choose to enslave another, no third man shall be allowed to object.

James Buchanan: Whether the people can constitutionally exclude slavery from their limits is a question for the Supreme Court.

Roger Taney: African Americans "had no rights which the white man was bound to respect."

If there wasn't a corrupt bargain, there may as well have been.

kacekwl

(8,296 posts)
22. They don't have to
Thu May 1, 2025, 02:57 PM
May 1

make a ruling just open your mouth and speak. It's believe Roberts did when trump wanted to impeach a judge who disagreed with him. Show me the way any citizen can be deported.

Martin68

(25,854 posts)
5. These people are traitors to our country and our democracy. Deporting CITIZENS? Citizens get their day in court (as
Thu May 1, 2025, 12:52 PM
May 1

should any deportee) and can be fined or incarcerated. They cannot b e deported.

erodriguez

(872 posts)
15. So if the law says you can't send them with their parents are reported,
Thu May 1, 2025, 01:58 PM
May 1

The children are orphaned. That's not good at all.

The better way would be that undocumented parents of US children should not be deported.

MLWR

(354 posts)
8. I guess it's official:
Thu May 1, 2025, 12:58 PM
May 1

republicans no longer support the Constitution of the United States and have broken their oath of office.

Magoo48

(6,330 posts)
17. History will not be kind to these tiny, cruel men.
Thu May 1, 2025, 02:08 PM
May 1

May they all be shunned as soon as we reclaim and shore up our democracy.

GiqueCee

(2,289 posts)
21. As if we needed another reason...
Thu May 1, 2025, 02:47 PM
May 1

... to despise Republicans. These evil fucks think this shitshow is their ticket to total dominion over the lives of others, which is every Republican’s wet dream.
They love to invoke the “name of the American people” at every opportunity, but they never do a goddam thing for average Americans. But they go through several pairs of knee pads every year while servicing the capricious demands of billionaires who are happy to take tax breaks, but give nothing back. They could do so much good with their vast wealth, without even noticing the expenditures, but no. Bezos bought a yacht so huge that they had to dismantle an entire bridge so it could reach the open ocean. Others have taken pointless ten-minute trips to the edge of space at astronomical expense.
The list of extravagant excesses goes on forever. The list of good deeds to help others would barely cover a gum wrapper. Hyperbole for effect, yeah, sure; but the substance of the message is irrefutable.
Republicans are filth.

OldBaldy1701E

(7,968 posts)
32. As far as they are concerned, there are only 1100 or so 'Americans' in this country.
Fri May 2, 2025, 08:00 AM
May 2

All of whom are millionaires or above.

The rest are 'objects' to be used as needed and discarded once they are finished.

And, we have let them do this for over 100 years now.

I guess we love being tortured and killed for 1100 people.

Godot51

(480 posts)
29. Unfortunately...
Fri May 2, 2025, 12:01 AM
May 2

"ice" isn't deporting many or perhaps any republican, conservative, fascist criminals.

HappyLarge

(61 posts)
31. There is no such thing as "deporting" citizens.
Fri May 2, 2025, 02:47 AM
May 2

Forcibly removed citizens are being exiled. Without due process, they are being kidnapped. Sent to Salvadoran Supermax? That would be human trafficking and/or slavery.

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