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BumRushDaShow

(157,509 posts)
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 01:19 PM Apr 2025

New York Times fires back after Trump threat

Source: The Hill

04/30/25 11:34 AM ET


The New York Times issued a firm rebuke of President Trump on Wednesday after the president threatened the news outlet with legal action over reporting on the litigation in which he is locked with Paramount Global, the parent company of CBS News.

“President Trump’s post today follows a long list of legal threats aimed at discouraging or penalizing independent reporting about the administration. The law is clear and protects a strong free press and favors an informed American public,” the Times said in a statement to The Hill.

The outlet was referencing a social media post by Trump earlier Wednesday morning in which the president accused Times journalists of having “TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME, possibly to the point where the Times’ interjection makes them liable for tortious interference, including in Elections, which we are intently studying.”

The Times on Tuesday evening published a report laying out an effort by lawyers for the president and Paramount Global to secure a settlement in connection with the lawsuit he filed over an interview with former Vice President Kamala Harris on “60 Minutes,” a CBS News program. The report noted “legal experts have called the suit baseless and an easy victory for CBS,” an assertion Trump pushed back aggressively on in his Truth Social post.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5274926-trump-threatens-new-york-times/

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New York Times fires back after Trump threat (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 OP
I thought they were "failing". louis-t Apr 2025 #1
He wants to control the reporting. pandr32 Apr 2025 #2
I get it. I was being sarcastic. louis-t Apr 2025 #3
No Free Press in America Anymore Since the Cha Apr 2025 #11
He's always been a liar. pandr32 Apr 2025 #19
Aloha , Pandr! Cha Apr 2025 #23
I laugh at that every time the piece of orange shit says "the failing NY Times" FoxNewsSucks Apr 2025 #30
"We Are Intently Studying"!! The Roux Comes First Apr 2025 #4
What does that even mean? "Intently"? calimary Apr 2025 #7
No, it is a normal word muriel_volestrangler May 2025 #34
Good to know. Thanks! calimary May 2025 #35
He must have learned a new word. ShazzieB Apr 2025 #14
Remember when he used the term "bigly"? Someone must have taken..... FadedMullet May 2025 #32
Not to come to his defense (shudder) but I believe he was slurring "big league." n/t royable May 2025 #33
"Tortious interference including in elections." boonecreek Apr 2025 #5
Fake fight fujiyamasan Apr 2025 #6
All Trump fights are fake, but he really does have a lawsuit against CBS. maxsolomon Apr 2025 #17
Who said anything about hating the NYT? fujiyamasan Apr 2025 #27
"it's actually one of the better newspapers out there." maxsolomon May 2025 #42
It's a monster the NY Times did everything to create. NNadir Apr 2025 #8
you're right... agingdem Apr 2025 #12
Yes. Peter Baker had an article today using the word "fervor" to describe Trump's energy and activity. Lonestarblue Apr 2025 #13
"Fervor"...aka vomit-spewing hate-fueled rage tantrums agingdem Apr 2025 #24
It definitely did not write that TS post AKwannabe Apr 2025 #9
True that. ShazzieB Apr 2025 #15
ABOUT BLOODY TIME THEY DID, TOO! Ford_Prefect Apr 2025 #10
Did you see today's NYT cover page? maxsolomon Apr 2025 #18
The NYT has been "normalizing" DJT since before his first term in office. They've only recently noticed his excesses, Ford_Prefect Apr 2025 #21
We must be reading different papers. maxsolomon Apr 2025 #22
Read it for the crosswords and the theater reviews as a child, then for its insights into civil rights and Viet Nam. Ford_Prefect Apr 2025 #25
So, you do subscribe now? I don't think you said. maxsolomon Apr 2025 #26
I read the NYT every day.... reACTIONary Apr 2025 #29
You cant believe this Hornedfrog2000 May 2025 #37
Yes I believe it, no they did not... reACTIONary May 2025 #40
That's a laugh..... reACTIONary Apr 2025 #31
Trump is a politician and a public figure. hadEnuf Apr 2025 #16
NYT finally pulled their head out of their ass. Joinfortmill Apr 2025 #20
Huh, the NYT, is learning you can not placate a bully. republianmushroom Apr 2025 #28
Trump derrangement syndrome isnt a real thing Hornedfrog2000 May 2025 #36
It is if you're talking about Dump, he's definitely deranged. mdbl May 2025 #38
Resistance is the only way to deal with Trump at this point. Every firm that folded under Trump's threats should Martin68 May 2025 #39
No way MorbidButterflyTat May 2025 #41

pandr32

(13,265 posts)
2. He wants to control the reporting.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 01:30 PM
Apr 2025

His own narrative is what he wants amplified and not contradicted.

Cha

(313,396 posts)
11. No Free Press in America Anymore Since the
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 03:23 PM
Apr 2025

Fascist Shitler took over.. That's the way he wants it, anyway... A Goebbels run country. Mump is the Minister of Propaganda.

Joseph Goebbels was the Reich Minister of Propaganda of Nazi Germany1. He was responsible for presenting Hitler to the public, regulating German media, and fomenting anti-Semitism123. Goebbels also orchestrated the burning of "un-German" books in Berlin and used motion pictures to spread propaganda

pandr32

(13,265 posts)
19. He's always been a liar.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 04:32 PM
Apr 2025

What a kid he must have been. His family money and influence always pulled him out of scrapes and even military school didn't deter him from his bloviating and bullying.
Nazi style fits him. He admires the way they made everyone fall in line and Putin is as skilled with propaganda as the Nazis. He combines the two and maintains his life-long lying, bloviating, and bullying style. I wish he would face consequences.
Aloha, Cha!

Cha

(313,396 posts)
23. Aloha , Pandr!
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 04:50 PM
Apr 2025

Yes, he's following the Nazi, Putin playbook and must be so drenched in Boomerang Ketchup when any News Outlets don't bow and do his bidding.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,243 posts)
30. I laugh at that every time the piece of orange shit says "the failing NY Times"
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 10:25 PM
Apr 2025

I hate the Times for propping up BushCheneyCo's illegal war, and always carrying water for the right, but still find it funny that they've been "failing" for more than the last ten years according to that filthy lying conman rapist.

The Roux Comes First

(1,754 posts)
4. "We Are Intently Studying"!!
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 01:35 PM
Apr 2025

What a hoot! Even in the case of things he seems to actually care about, like, say, golf, he ends up resorting to cheating and bragging. Maybe it is the royal "we," with anyone but him doing the actual work, albeit then the doofuses and nimrods who so desperately cling to him.

calimary

(87,240 posts)
7. What does that even mean? "Intently"?
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 02:30 PM
Apr 2025

Did they mean “intensely” but just spelled it wrong?

Did they mean “intentionally” but got their adverbs mixed up?

I didn’t know “intently” was an actual word.

ShazzieB

(21,244 posts)
14. He must have learned a new word.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 04:08 PM
Apr 2025

In his first term, he would talk about "looking at [a thing] very strongly." That used to drive me nuts, because I've never heard anyone but himself ever use "strongly" that way (or at all, really).

I feel silly talking about a minor annoyance right now, with all the horrible stuff that's going on, but that used to be one of my pet peeves. If he nw wants to say "intently studying" instead, maybe I can focus my anger in a more appropriate direction!

FadedMullet

(378 posts)
32. Remember when he used the term "bigly"? Someone must have taken.....
Thu May 1, 2025, 01:09 AM
May 2025

.....him aside and explained how dumb it sounded. Make that a large group of people, what one might call an intervention, and the did it several times.

royable

(1,426 posts)
33. Not to come to his defense (shudder) but I believe he was slurring "big league." n/t
Thu May 1, 2025, 03:08 AM
May 2025

On edit, but it still sounded stupid.

boonecreek

(1,156 posts)
5. "Tortious interference including in elections."
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 02:02 PM
Apr 2025

Would that include the blizzard of lies coming from his campaign last fall?

maxsolomon

(36,995 posts)
17. All Trump fights are fake, but he really does have a lawsuit against CBS.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 04:23 PM
Apr 2025

I don't agree that the NYT "needs" Trump.

Looks like you're another NYT Hater; you'll find plenty of company on DU.

fujiyamasan

(521 posts)
27. Who said anything about hating the NYT?
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 06:44 PM
Apr 2025

Of course the NYT needs Trump. He sells subscriptions and they want access. This isn’t about hating the news paper. Given the sad state of journalism, it’s actually one of the better newspapers out there.

I know the lawsuit against CBS is “real”, but it’s also performative on the part of CBS and it’s more about preserving capital, rather than fighting for journalistic ethics or whatever other bullshit. In the end both the NYT and CBS will settle and more or less on Trump’s terms.

maxsolomon

(36,995 posts)
42. "it's actually one of the better newspapers out there."
Thu May 1, 2025, 01:35 PM
May 2025

LOL, careful what you say around here.

stick around and you'll see there's a great deal of kneejerk hostility towards the NYT on DU.

NNadir

(36,240 posts)
8. It's a monster the NY Times did everything to create.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 02:34 PM
Apr 2025

"...but her emails..."

"...too old Joe..." etc.

agingdem

(8,595 posts)
12. you're right...
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 03:25 PM
Apr 2025

four long years of the NYT (Peter Baker and cohorts) parsing/sanitizing Trump verbal vomit into thoughtful discourse...four long years of never ending op-eds trashing Biden...four long years of the NYT making nice with Trump assuming he would direct his loathing for the press at their competitors..and now, after giving Trump another platform to spew his Hitler-speak without pushback the NYT has found themselves at the receiving end of Trump's revenge...too fucking bad...




Lonestarblue

(12,850 posts)
13. Yes. Peter Baker had an article today using the word "fervor" to describe Trump's energy and activity.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 03:34 PM
Apr 2025

I commented that the Times should stop treating Trump with kid gloves and start using words like utter destruction to describe Trump’s activities.

agingdem

(8,595 posts)
24. "Fervor"...aka vomit-spewing hate-fueled rage tantrums
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 05:12 PM
Apr 2025

Peter Baker and his ilk never called Trump's bullshit "lies"...instead they referenced Trump's regurgitating sludge as exaggerations/misrepresentations/fabrications/falsehoods/misinformation...they said he misstated/distorted/dissembled/equivocated....but never "he's lying...again"..

AKwannabe

(6,811 posts)
9. It definitely did not write that TS post
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 02:40 PM
Apr 2025

It cannot put coherent sentences together!

Someone else wrote that shit.
For sure. It is literally too stupid for the punctuation etc

Lol

ShazzieB

(21,244 posts)
15. True that.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 04:12 PM
Apr 2025

I think he must have someone who translates his incoherent rants into intelligible English and then posts the stuff for him.

Ford_Prefect

(8,413 posts)
10. ABOUT BLOODY TIME THEY DID, TOO!
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 02:54 PM
Apr 2025

Too comfortable by half they are with normalizing DJT and all who sail in him.

maxsolomon

(36,995 posts)
18. Did you see today's NYT cover page?
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 04:26 PM
Apr 2025

Didn't "normalize" him one iota - multiple 100 Days stories, above the fold. It was damning, but the objective language of the headlines won't be good enough for DU.

Ford_Prefect

(8,413 posts)
21. The NYT has been "normalizing" DJT since before his first term in office. They've only recently noticed his excesses,
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 04:39 PM
Apr 2025

and his threats.

maxsolomon

(36,995 posts)
22. We must be reading different papers.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 04:44 PM
Apr 2025

Do you subscribe? It sounds like you do, or you wouldn't have noticed a recent change.

Ford_Prefect

(8,413 posts)
25. Read it for the crosswords and the theater reviews as a child, then for its insights into civil rights and Viet Nam.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 05:40 PM
Apr 2025

I have seen it raise and lower editorial skirts since the early 60's. NYT tried to blow both ways all too often. As it turned out there were "plants" among the editors and writing staff who favored the views assigned by State Dept., CIA, and other, more commercial establishments depending on the era and the issues at hand. They were not the only major paper subject to those influences.

More recently the rise in media consolidation, corporate, and oligarchic ownership has made many a masthead into an outlet for status quo, or establishment, and in some cases RW propaganda. The Times is no less subject to such influence and must be read with more than a few grains of salt, IMO.

And yes they have recently been too often guilty of promoting the GOP or Trumpian line about Joe Biden, Obama, and Democrats in general. Far too often they have indulged in both-siderism or at least selective obfuscation. That they now face a comeuppance is due to their intermittent acceptance of the GOP party line without so much as a follow-up or at least some research to balance it. Much the same for the MSM as a whole. Too lazy by half to put the onus where it belongs.

maxsolomon

(36,995 posts)
26. So, you do subscribe now? I don't think you said.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 05:54 PM
Apr 2025

You did during Vietnam, 50-plus years ago. That seems clear.

I read everything with a grain of salt, and in any NYT news report on MFer, I read between the lines. They're nowhere close to the Trump ally that DU seems to think they are.

The general disdain comes through if you look. Certainly, MFer can see it, since he's attacking them for a line like “legal experts have called the suit baseless and an easy victory for CBS."

reACTIONary

(6,617 posts)
29. I read the NYT every day....
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 10:00 PM
Apr 2025

.... they do not "normalize" TSF. In fact, they and the WaPo are responsible for a great amount , if not most, of the enterprise and investigative journalism that has exposed him over and over.

This is a cliche criticism that is lobbed around indiscriminately against all news organizations.

reACTIONary

(6,617 posts)
40. Yes I believe it, no they did not...
Thu May 1, 2025, 11:09 AM
May 2025

... "white wash" any candidate, but especially not TSF.

As far as their influence on the election.... about zero, one way or the other. There are just not that many people who read the NYT or the WaPo.

Their influence would be in exclusive stories that they develop and are picked up by other news services (including, of course, Raw Story). These are almost always, of course, negative. Because good news is no news.

This "normalization" critic is lazy, cliche thinking. So is blaming the messenger in any case.

reACTIONary

(6,617 posts)
31. That's a laugh.....
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 10:36 PM
Apr 2025

... I've been reading it for decades. No normalization of TSF that I've seen. Just straight reporting, and often enterprise and investigative reports that expose him.

The one TSF is criticizing is an example. It reports the reasons why CBS is willing to compromise on what “legal experts have called (a) suit baseless suit and an easy victory for CBS", basically exposing TSF's use of regulatory power to pursue umcostitional suppression of free speech.

That is not "normalization".

hadEnuf

(3,327 posts)
16. Trump is a politician and a public figure.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 04:19 PM
Apr 2025

The press can write whatever they damn well please about him.


However, if Trump is right then every single right-wing media outlet can be sued out of existence.

Hornedfrog2000

(463 posts)
36. Trump derrangement syndrome isnt a real thing
Thu May 1, 2025, 05:37 AM
May 2025

I know some cook, quack psychiatrist wrote an article about it, but its not a thing. However, being a deluded cult member is. Trump deluded syndrome would be a more apt name for a diagnosis of his cult members.

mdbl

(7,064 posts)
38. It is if you're talking about Dump, he's definitely deranged.
Thu May 1, 2025, 07:21 AM
May 2025

And most of the magats have it too.

Martin68

(26,244 posts)
39. Resistance is the only way to deal with Trump at this point. Every firm that folded under Trump's threats should
Thu May 1, 2025, 09:57 AM
May 2025

be publicly shamed for their cowardly appeasement.

MorbidButterflyTat

(3,382 posts)
41. No way
Thu May 1, 2025, 12:21 PM
May 2025

"...possibly to the point where the Times’ interjection makes them liable for tortious interference, including in Elections, which we are intently studying'.”

No way the orange moron wrote that. NO WAY.

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