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riversedge

(76,873 posts)
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:20 AM Apr 2025

Rubio warns if it's not possible to end the war in Ukraine, US needs to 'move on'

Source: cnn




By Alex Stambaugh, Max Saltman, Victoria Butenko and Ross Adkin CNN

Updated 4:09 AM EDT, Fri April 18, 2025



...............
A US-authored outline of a peace plan had received an “encouraging reception” at the talks, according to a State Department readout, which did not give details on the outline. Rubio also spoke with Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov and conveyed the same outline, the readout said.

Speaking Friday, Rubio said he and Witkoff had come to Paris to “begin to talk about more specific outlines of what it might take to end the war” and whether or not this is a war that can be ended.

“If it’s not possible, if we’re so far apart that this is not going to happen then I think the president is probably at a point where he’s going to say we’re done,” he said.

“It’s not our war. We didn’t start it. The United States has been helping Ukraine for the past three years and we want it to end, but it’s not our war,” he added.

“President (Trump) has spent 87 days at the highest level of this government repeatedly taking efforts to bring this war to and end. We are now reaching a point when we need to decide and determine whether this is even possible or not. Which is why we’re engaging both sides.” ..................

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/18/europe/rubio-russia-war-in-ukraine-us-talks-intl-hnk/index.html

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Rubio warns if it's not possible to end the war in Ukraine, US needs to 'move on' (Original Post) riversedge Apr 2025 OP
...Meanwhile, Russia launched a missile attack on Ukraine overnight, hitting a residential neighborhood ,, riversedge Apr 2025 #1
WE NEED TO *MOVE ON* FROM TRUMP AND HIS BOOTLICKERS Skittles Apr 2025 #2
+100 InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2025 #28
What, and let that Nobel Peace Prize slip from Trump's fingers no_hypocrisy Apr 2025 #3
..has spent 87 days mostly playing golf.. thomski64 Apr 2025 #4
When we defeat these fascists Bread and Circuses Apr 2025 #5
It's not possible to end a war?!?! TheFarseer Apr 2025 #6
Stinky is once again throwing in the towel like his stupid tariffs. Ray Bruns Apr 2025 #7
Little Marco is pathetic. LS_Editor Apr 2025 #8
Putin sends his love and kisses Lil' Marco.............. Bengus81 Apr 2025 #9
robot rubio strikes again. "this is too hard. they didn't listen on day one" Javaman Apr 2025 #10
ROBOT RUBIO Chipper Chat Apr 2025 #12
If it means Trump and his cronies stop meddling and conflating self-centred negotiations with Russia Emrys Apr 2025 #11
Wow. Secretary of State raises white flag. sinkingfeeling Apr 2025 #13
Way to deflect the stupid statements of your orange boss mdbl Apr 2025 #14
Rubio wants Americans to bend the knee to Putin bronxiteforever Apr 2025 #15
I'd like to see Little Marco "move on." Martin68 Apr 2025 #16
It's not our war bagimin Apr 2025 #17
Marco, you foolish boy, it ends when Russia withdraws completely. travelingthrulife Apr 2025 #18
Rubio is out of his league. He has neither the experience nor expertise to do the job asked of him. Firestorm49 Apr 2025 #19
Rubio lacks the skill to do the job, but I guess that's why he's in the cabinet of boneheads. Firestorm49 Apr 2025 #20
But It Is Our War ruet Apr 2025 #21
Just like they want Kilmar Abrego Garcia to move on. milestogo Apr 2025 #22
The EU is becoming a military might that will rival if not surpass the US. They are fed up with putin and have PortTack Apr 2025 #23
Now that we made a mess of things, we quit! Wonder Why Apr 2025 #24
Oh, it is possible to end that war. republianmushroom Apr 2025 #25
I'm not surprised atreides1 Apr 2025 #26
They've wanted to gift Ukraine to Trump's BFF Putin since day one. emulatorloo Apr 2025 #27
Oooohh, what a scary threat. maxsolomon Apr 2025 #29
Trump named him Little Marco. Passages Apr 2025 #30
....Trump is ready to throw in the towel and declare that he lost and isn't capable to fulfill that campaign promise. riversedge Apr 2025 #31
2023: Donald Trump to Nigel Farage, "If I was president I'd end that war in one day, it'll take 24 hours. ... riversedge Apr 2025 #32
A signal to the enemy .... Shoonra Apr 2025 #33
Putin will move on to Poland. Marcuse Apr 2025 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author blue-wave Apr 2025 #35
Well little Marco blue-wave Apr 2025 #36
Gee I thought this would be resolved in a day with a few phone calls, right Cheetolini?? Evolve Dammit Apr 2025 #37
Whereas if it's a war against brown people, we can't cut & run. Crowman2009 Apr 2025 #38
This is like those in the Revolutionary War being told that if it were impossible to end the conflict between the states SWBTATTReg Apr 2025 #39
Little Marco needs to move on. Martin68 Apr 2025 #40
The US isn't good at ending wars. twodogsbarking Apr 2025 #41
24 Hours he said! Art of The Deal! GusBob Apr 2025 #42

riversedge

(76,873 posts)
1. ...Meanwhile, Russia launched a missile attack on Ukraine overnight, hitting a residential neighborhood ,,
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:22 AM
Apr 2025



...........Meanwhile, Russia launched a missile attack on Ukraine overnight, hitting a residential neighborhood of the city of Kharkiv. The strike killed one person and wounded 67 others, authorities said Friday, adding they feared more people could be trapped beneath the rubble of a damaged apartment building.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/18/europe/rubio-russia-war-in-ukraine-us-talks-intl-hnk/index.html

TheFarseer

(9,626 posts)
6. It's not possible to end a war?!?!
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 06:09 AM
Apr 2025

Literally every war has ended. The Hundred Years War took a while but they wrapped it up.

Ray Bruns

(5,452 posts)
7. Stinky is once again throwing in the towel like his stupid tariffs.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 06:31 AM
Apr 2025

Last edited Fri Apr 18, 2025, 11:00 AM - Edit history (1)

Stinky is a loser extraordinaire.

Javaman

(64,318 posts)
10. robot rubio strikes again. "this is too hard. they didn't listen on day one"
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 07:42 AM
Apr 2025

the easily programed sycophant.

Emrys

(8,681 posts)
11. If it means Trump and his cronies stop meddling and conflating self-centred negotiations with Russia
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 07:44 AM
Apr 2025

with "peace" negotiations between Ukraine and Russia, I don't think anyone will shed many tears.

If it means no more aid from the US, at least everyone will know where they stand. How that would square with a prospective security and minerals deal is anyone's guess.

mdbl

(7,064 posts)
14. Way to deflect the stupid statements of your orange boss
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:08 AM
Apr 2025

These people in the Dump administration are worthless as tits on a boar.

bronxiteforever

(10,657 posts)
15. Rubio wants Americans to bend the knee to Putin
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:29 AM
Apr 2025

Rubio degrades himself daily and he expects us to accept his cowardice as a virtue.
We don’t.

Firestorm49

(4,421 posts)
19. Rubio is out of his league. He has neither the experience nor expertise to do the job asked of him.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:48 AM
Apr 2025

He should resign. This is the kind of idiotic “leadership” that guides this band of misfits.

Firestorm49

(4,421 posts)
20. Rubio lacks the skill to do the job, but I guess that's why he's in the cabinet of boneheads.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 10:02 AM
Apr 2025

ruet

(10,147 posts)
21. But It Is Our War
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 10:10 AM
Apr 2025
Ukraine, Nuclear Weapons, and Security Assurances at a Glance

At the time of Ukraine’s independence from the Soviet Union in 1991, Ukraine held the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world, including an estimated 1,900 strategic warheads, 176 intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), and 44 strategic bombers. By 1996, Ukraine had returned all of its nuclear warheads to Russia in exchange for economic aid and security assurances, and in December 1994, Ukraine became a non-nuclear weapon state-party to the 1968 nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT). The last strategic nuclear delivery vehicle in Ukraine was eliminated in 2001 under the 1991 Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START). It took years of political maneuvering and diplomatic work, starting with the Lisbon Protocol in 1992, to remove the weapons and nuclear infrastructure from Ukraine.

milestogo

(21,445 posts)
22. Just like they want Kilmar Abrego Garcia to move on.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 10:35 AM
Apr 2025

So you are incarcerated in a foreign prison with no hope of ever seeing your family again. Get over it. Move on.

PortTack

(35,685 posts)
23. The EU is becoming a military might that will rival if not surpass the US. They are fed up with putin and have
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 10:50 AM
Apr 2025

Drawn the line…it will end here period. They will not go back to Russia slicing up European nations. Putin has lost already, just too fucking stupid to stop. As with so many other things the US is becoming irrelevant.

And yes, as if we made some big contribution…FU rubio….you shitty little creep

republianmushroom

(20,813 posts)
25. Oh, it is possible to end that war.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 11:32 AM
Apr 2025

Tell Russia to go back to the original line agreed to and honor it 1990's treaty with Ukraine.

atreides1

(16,799 posts)
26. I'm not surprised
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 11:35 AM
Apr 2025

He comes from parents who skipped out before Castro took over, the whole run away idea is likely in his DNA!!!

emulatorloo

(46,081 posts)
27. They've wanted to gift Ukraine to Trump's BFF Putin since day one.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 11:42 AM
Apr 2025

Marco, you aren’t fooling anybody.

maxsolomon

(36,995 posts)
29. Oooohh, what a scary threat.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 12:53 PM
Apr 2025

Fucking amateurs.

No one forget: MFer was going to end this war in a day.

Passages

(3,412 posts)
30. Trump named him Little Marco.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 12:58 PM
Apr 2025

I guess he was right on point. You'll keep sinking lower and lower as long as you can access power.

riversedge

(76,873 posts)
31. ....Trump is ready to throw in the towel and declare that he lost and isn't capable to fulfill that campaign promise.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 01:24 PM
Apr 2025

Who is old enough to remember when Trump said he could end the Russia Ukraine war in 24 hours?

according to Marco Rubio, Trump is ready to throw in the towel and declare that he lost and isn’t capable to fulfill that campaign promise.

Anyone surprised?



riversedge

(76,873 posts)
32. 2023: Donald Trump to Nigel Farage, "If I was president I'd end that war in one day, it'll take 24 hours. ...
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 01:29 PM
Apr 2025



2023: Donald Trump to Nigel Farage, "If I was president I'd end that war in one day, it'll take 24 hours. It would be easy"

2025: Marco Rubio, "If it's not possible to end the Russian invasion of Ukraine then we're at a point where President Trump is at a point where he'll say we're done"

The way you end the Russian invasion of Ukraine is to stop Russia from invading Ukraine, not by taking away support from Ukraine that is trying to defend itself from Russia

Shoonra

(600 posts)
33. A signal to the enemy ....
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 01:32 PM
Apr 2025

Rubio has revealed a devastating fact to the Russians: If the Russians don't quit bombing Ukraine for a while (maybe a month or two), then the US will pull out and cease to arm and assist Ukraine leaving it entirely at the mercy of the Russians.

This sort of inside information to an enemy was previously called treason but I am willing to believe this instance was done at Trump's instigation.

We used to defend free countries from invaders, and we used to oppose the Russians at every move. No more.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

blue-wave

(4,730 posts)
36. Well little Marco
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 02:49 PM
Apr 2025

you're really doing a fine job of stabbing another ally in the back. Ukraine came to our assistance and was involved with troops in the Middle East for 18 years, 2003-2021. At one time, the Ukrainian contingent was listed as the third largest allied force in the region and yes, many Ukrainian warriors died there. How many troops did Russia send? Shame. Shame. Shame.

Crowman2009

(3,189 posts)
38. Whereas if it's a war against brown people, we can't cut & run.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 05:45 PM
Apr 2025


MAGA is always vehemently anti-war when it involves white people.

SWBTATTReg

(25,534 posts)
39. This is like those in the Revolutionary War being told that if it were impossible to end the conflict between the states
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 07:21 PM
Apr 2025

and England, that we should move on.

What a dumba&&.

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