Except for Native Americans, We Are All of Immigrant Stock!

[MineralMan]

How hard is that to understand? Why do we not recognize that? Americans come from every continent on the planet, and probably every nation. If we are not first generation immigrants, we can look back and find our immigrant ancestors.

The USA is a nation of immigrants. Always has been. Welcome to the United States of America, if you are just arriving here! We're all fellow immigrants.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

1. I agree totally

For some reason, our opponents find hate invigorating.
I find it tiring.

[MineralMan]

2. Trump's Grandfather Was an Immigrant.

Two of his wives are immigrants and naturalized citizens.

What they're not saying is that they just don't want brown-skinned immigrants or immigrants who are non-Christian. They can't say that outright, though, so they say something else. They're still all of immigrant heritage. We all are, unless we are Native Americans.

[Justice matters.]

33. Even (many) Native Americans migrated in the continent through Siberia-Alaska

if going back a millenium or many.

We're ALL Human Beings. Black, Red, White, Blue, Whatever.

We ALL run red blood when exposed to Oxygen.

The problem is: Big Money and careless-for-others-than-themselves criminals (who lie all the time).

[Bumbles]

34. His mother was an immigrant, as well, from Scotland.

[MineralMan]

35. Thanks!

He's an anchor baby, I guess.

[Bumbles]

37. You're most welcome.

It's interesting that a friend and I at our weekly breakfast today had this very discussion about how all but those who originally occupied this land are immigrants. Such arrogance - "the act or habit of arrogating, or making undue claims in an overbearing manner; that species of pride which consists in exorbitant claims of rank, dignity, estimation, or power, or which exalts the worth or importance of the person to an undue degree; proud contempt of others; lordliness; haughtiness; self-assumption; presumption."

[Ocelot II]

3. All of us or our ancestors wound up here in one of three ways:

1. Our ancestors had already been here for thousands of years, or
2. Our ancestors were kidnapped and brought here involuntarily, or
3. Our ancestors were immigrants who occupied the land belonging to #1, and/or benefited from the forced labor of #2.

Those of us in category #3 would do well to remember how we got here and what we took from #s1 and 2, and stop being such dicks about today's immigrants.

[yardwork]

6. Well said.

But about half the country becomes irrationally enraged when you bring that up.

[wnylib]

25. And quite a few of us have ancestry from more than one of those 3 categories.

[Blue Owl]

4. I still can't wrap my head around the stupidity...

…of when ICE arrests Native Americans. The stupid has never burned hotter.

[yardwork]

5. Simple answer: the evil doers play on people's prejudices.

Too many Americans are quick to believe the lies Reagan promoted about welfare queens and other shiftless lazy people.

[EYESORE 9001]

10. They believed it before Reagan came along

to put a finer point on their prejudices.

[yardwork]

11. Oh definitely! Reagan just made it acceptable again.

It was unacceptable for a very brief time period.

[TexLaProgressive]

7. True

Half my genes are from French people who foiunded New Orleans. Then Napoleon sold us locke, stock, barrel and people to Jefferson in the Lousiana Purchase.

The other half is from German and English immigrants.

[niyad]

19. Have you ever looked up the history of the Indigenous nations in LA

before the French arrived?

[ahnakneemoose]

8. We Are All Immigrants

Those who might serve to challenge U.S. citizenship rites might ought consider that we are all immigrants, even currently-identified Indigenous peoples of the Americas.

From the Internet:

Scientific consensus establishes that the ancestors of American Indians (Indigenous peoples of the Americas) originated in Asia.

Genetic, archaeological, and linguistic evidence confirms that populations migrated across the Bering Land Bridge connecting modern-day Siberia and Alaska during the last Ice Age.

[MineralMan]

9. Yes, but they were here long before the Europeans arrived.

That's enough for me, really.

[ahnakneemoose]

12. Correct and Understood (n/t)

[Lategame]

20. I actually agree

Simply America's first colonizers. Human history is a near endless progression of colonizing and re-colonizing. Over and over and over. Everywhere. Had that Bridge not been there, I wonder how much longer the continent would have taken to be discovered. Likely the vikings, and they would be first peoples. Perhaps in alternate universes.

[wnylib]

31. Or to take it further, everyone outside of

southern Africa, no matter where on earth they are, is an immigrant or descendant of immigrants in the place where they live. .

[appmanga]

13. Even those of us whose ancestors didn't willingly come (n/t)

[MineralMan]

14. Yes!

[Norrrm]

15. Acc to lore, all of us today got off the boat - Noah's Ark.

[MineralMan]

16. LOL!

[surfered]

17. Yes

[niyad]

21. which flavour pizza do you like?

[MineralMan]

27. Aw, Heck! I Missed That.

[niyad]

40. You didn't really miss anything. MIRT was, of course, right on it!

[California Kid]

23. Americans come from every continent on the planet....

not Antarctica...

[MineralMan]

28. As far as we know.

LOL!

[relogic]

24. A distraction.

If one can’t beat up on other cultures and languages not their own, they ‘d have to examine their own origins and question their own legal status, I’m guessing. We all know rights to REALESTATE have always been the domain of the conquerors with means.

“I was here first”- said the serpent in The Garden.

[FakeNoose]

26. Absolutely! My ancestors were German and Irish

... but most of them came over before the Civil War. A few came post-Civil War but before 1900. So most of my family has been here longer than Chump's family.

It really shouldn't matter when or where we came from. We're here NOW. We came legally and we're contributing to the betterment of the USA.

One thing the USA will always have is plenty of ROOM for more immigrants to come here and find a better life.

[MineralMan]

30. Nobody in my family had an interest in geneology.

So, I can only go as far back as my grandparents. I did meet my great-grandmother, once, but she no longer knew who she was, so...

On both sides, though, I know what the generation earlier than my greats came from Scotland and Ireland. I have a very, very common Scottish surname, so that much I know. My mother's family came from Ireland, but I can't find much information about her family's surname.

[FakeNoose]

36. A lot of the info is searchable on line now, but you need to know a few basics

If you know (or can guess) what year they came here, and what port they came through you can search the ship's passenger lists. That info is freely available, but time-consuming if you can't pin down names and dates.

There are a lot a searchable records in the LDS archive - that's the Latter Day Saints, and we mostly call them the Mormons. The Mormons were obsessed with genealogy history because of their polygamy rules. They would end up marrying distant cousins unless they researched their ancestry.

But anyway the LDS records can be searched by anyone, you don't have to be a Mormon believer.

[LeftInTX]

38. Same with my mom's family. I know they were here for quite a while, but didn't know anything about them.

On my dad's I'm Armenian, and well, there just isn't info besides my great grandparents.

Since I'm so pale, I took a DNA test to determine my ethnicity. On my mom's side, I quickly found out that my 4th great grandfather served in the American Revolution. She never knew this. (She had died year's prior). They were southerners, who sometimes would say, "We have royal blood"...LOL Hence, I likely do have royal blood, but it's sure diluted. Lots of people of this stock can trace lineage to William the Conqueror etc.

Unfortunately, I'm not related to any US presidents, but I am related to a few known criminals, like Bonnie Parker. I was supposedly related to Charles Manson, but I think there was an error in the records, so I'm not.

I'm distantly related to Armenians who took the test, but have no idea how we are related because there are no records that go back beyond Ellis Island.

I found out most of this on a free site called Family Search.


Then, my husband did his DNA. He's Mexican-American. He's related to all sorts of interesting people. Unlike the US, early Mexicans did not move about the country very much. Conquistadors married daughters of conquistadors, so if you're related to one, you are related to numerous. Cities like Monterrey grew and there wasn't much migration. If there was, it was usually from towns nearby. There also wasn't a population explosion until the fairly recently. People from northern Mexico all seem to be related to each other. His 13th great grandfather founded Nuevo Leon. (Diego Montemayor) His 8th cousin was Venustiano Carranza, former President of Mexico.

Lots of people are related to Diego Montemayor:

Montemayor was a real bad ass. He murdered his wife, because she had an affair, but he got away with it.

[greatauntoftriplets]

29. The young JFK wrote a book called "A Nation of Immigrants".

He was "woke" as far back as the 1950s.

[wnylib]

32. As the grandson of one immigrant, and the son of

another immigrant, who is married to an immigrant, who the hell is Trump to whine about immigrants?

[LeftInTX]

39. Haven't missed his latest OTT rant.

Countries do have the right to control their borders. We also have the right to increase immigration as needed etc. But Trump and his ICE killing squad goes beyond controlling borders.

[WarGamer]

41. I'd go farther and say EVERYONE is a migrant.

Native Americans didn't magically become NATIVE here.

Migration science says they all came from Asia through Canada spending thousands of years in modern day Alaska before heading South