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Celerity

(55,625 posts)
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 04:42 PM Yesterday

The next big DOGE threat is already here


With the White House trying to ensure that no DOGE records see the light of day, the public may never know how much DOGE cut or what, if anything, it saved.

https://www.ms.now/opinion/doge-government-efficiency-records-job-cuts-elon-musk-foia


Without DOGE's records, the public is left with no clear explanation of what exactly DOGE accomplished or how much it saved, if anything. Anna Lefkowitz / MS NOW; Getty Images



The Department of Government Efficiency, which carried out the most transformative restructuring of the federal government in a generation, has formally ended — with no public accounting of its actions. Despite touting itself as the most transparent administration in history, the Trump White House is working to ensure that no DOGE records ever see the light of day.

This is a dangerous antidemocratic precedent, especially since DOGE took direction from Elon Musk, who was famously not a regular government employee. By handing over essential government functions to members of the ultrawealthy who happen to be friends with the president, while systematically dismantling America’s transparency infrastructure, the administration is effectively hiding that public policy is being dictated at an oligarch’s request. The threat is the privatization of government power, with no chance of oversight or public input.

If the DOGE model succeeds, there’s no telling how many shadow agencies may follow — and how many government decisions taxpayers could be locked out of. To date, what little the public knows about DOGE has mostly come from whistleblowers. The mechanics behind this information blackout are twofold.

Almost from its inception, the Trump administration argued that DOGE was not an agency with independent authority and therefore was not subject to the real-time scrutiny of Freedom of Information Act (or FOIA) requests. Rather, the administration said that DOGE’s sole legal function was to advise and assist the president, and that political appointees at federal agencies — not DOGE personnel — held the ultimate authority to implement its recommended mass firings and agency liquidations.

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yellow dahlia

(7,069 posts)
1. This is SO off the charts bad, in SO many ways.
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 07:00 PM
22 hrs ago

They spent our money. They wasted our money. They destroyed out governmental infrastructure.

They are not allowed to do this, AND then deny our access. We have the right to the information, hence the Freedom of Information Act. Imagine how many documents they are trying to hide.

Karasu

(2,467 posts)
3. If it "saved" anything (it didn't), they wouldn't be hiding that information, they'd be bragging about it endlessly.
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 07:29 PM
22 hrs ago

They really don't want average people to know how badly it defunded everything that can actually make a difference in their lives,.

ColoringFool

(1,573 posts)
4. What does it matter "what it saved"? None of us citizens will....
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 07:32 PM
22 hrs ago

reap any financial benefits (e g., shoring up Social Security), while many of us will suffer from the cuts and firings, especially the fired.

warmfeet

(3,362 posts)
5. DOGE was never about saving anything.
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 07:35 PM
22 hrs ago

It was about destroying/damaging institutions and allowing Elon Musk a means to eliminate potential legal entanglements. DOGE accomplished what it set out to do. The ball is in our court now.

Karasu

(2,467 posts)
7. It was an excuse for the GQP to gut and defund popular and necessary services they had only dreamed about before.
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 07:49 PM
22 hrs ago

eppur_se_muova

(43,017 posts)
6. Don't gov't appointees have to receive a "Letter of Appointment", which must be signed and certified ?
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 07:36 PM
22 hrs ago

If Musk, or any of his twenty-something minions altered gov't software or hardware, or changed or moved gov't records, without an official Letter of Appointment giving them the authority to do so, then they were acting outside of the law, as private citizens, and would be liable for any and all claims of damage -- criminal or civil -- resulting from those actions.

I really, really hope that at least some of them get caught out as having no authority whatever to do what they did.

kentuck

(116,341 posts)
9. How did Musk become a "trillionaire" so quickly?
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 09:30 PM
20 hrs ago

Did he keep the DOGE savings?

Who knows?

"The most transparent presidency in history". Uh, right!

Celerity

(55,625 posts)
10. Elon Musk became the world's first trillionaire primarily due to the historic, record-breaking initial public offering
Sun Jul 12, 2026, 09:39 PM
20 hrs ago

(IPO) of his aerospace and AI company, SpaceX, in June 2026.

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/spacex-ipo-makes-elon-musk-worlds-first-trillionaire-2026-06-11/

The monumental surge in his net worth was driven by two massive stock holdings:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of_Elon_Musk

SpaceX IPO: The listing saw the company debut with an unprecedented valuation (raising approximately $75 billion to $87.5 billion on opening day). Musk's roughly 42% equity stake in the company catapulted his on-paper net worth by hundreds of billions.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gyp523ly8o

Tesla Stock: His 12% to 20% ownership stake in Tesla (TSLA) has driven the bulk of his paper wealth for years, as market confidence in his software-driven automotive and energy strategies pushed the automaker's market cap into the trillions.Together, these two company stakes generated a net worth of over $1.1 trillion for Musk. Historically, he achieved initial multi-millionaire status by co-founding and selling companies like Zip2 and X.com (which later became PayPal) in the late 1990s and early 2000s, later reinvesting the entirety of those windfalls into SpaceX, Tesla, and subsequent ventures like Neuralink.

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