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senseandsensibility

(26,203 posts)
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 05:53 PM Yesterday

Direct quote from Jake Tapper about the Houston shooting by ICE

"I'm just going to make an observation and that is for a year and a half we've been hearing ICE and DHS say things are false then they turn out to be true. I don't know how much longer they expect the public to believe them."

Later in the story Houston Mayor John Whitmire (D) said he has asked the federal government to share their evidence and "they are tightly controlling" it. He has reached out to them and asked them to share it.

Very hard hitting story.
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Direct quote from Jake Tapper about the Houston shooting by ICE (Original Post) senseandsensibility Yesterday OP
Link, please? Ocelot II Yesterday #1
I just heard him say it on CNN senseandsensibility Yesterday #2
Ice hide his identity................ Lovie777 Yesterday #3
Message auto-removed Name removed 8 hrs ago #27
And he didn't blame Joe Biden for it? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #4
To be honest that's kind of what I expected senseandsensibility Yesterday #5
Exactly SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #6
They key to all their rhetoric is popsdenver Yesterday #7
Thank you! Scubamatt Yesterday #8
The New York Times ran an interview with Whitmire SouthBayDem Yesterday #9
Well, I think he's changed his tune senseandsensibility Yesterday #10
Up yours, Trump Enabler. You, Jake Tapper, spent four years attacking Joe Biden for. . .reasons AZLD4Candidate Yesterday #11
What point is there in quoting the current regime or its dubious monarch on anything? quakerboy Yesterday #12
True, but this quote is from Tapper. senseandsensibility Yesterday #13
Yeah. Im just saying, whats the point in reporting anything ICE or its lord say quakerboy Yesterday #15
Words can be crimes, and that IS news. Maru Kitteh 10 hrs ago #23
This is how authoritarianism is practiced BaronChocula Yesterday #14
It will take the courts to get the evidence out of the corrupt executive regime.. and it will be a battle. pat_k Yesterday #16
maybe Tapper should write a book about INCREASING FASCISM IN AMERICA Skittles 21 hrs ago #17
"How much longer the public should believe them"? Huh? Haven't we already moved past that point? GoodRaisin 20 hrs ago #18
Anyone who still supports ICE will never abandon them. Orrex 15 hrs ago #19
I have no respect for Jake Tapper. Bluepinky 12 hrs ago #20
You're a year late with that question edhopper 12 hrs ago #21
Good for Jake Tapper, but I won't spend 5 seconds watching him. 33taw 10 hrs ago #22
Trigger-happy murderers. Martin68 9 hrs ago #24
What a dumbasa. Scruffy1 8 hrs ago #25
Why are we looking for a corn kernel Keepthesoulalive 8 hrs ago #26

senseandsensibility

(26,203 posts)
2. I just heard him say it on CNN
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 05:55 PM
Yesterday

I'm watching on delay but it's from the two o'clock show (westcoast time).

Response to Lovie777 (Reply #3)

senseandsensibility

(26,203 posts)
5. To be honest that's kind of what I expected
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 06:03 PM
Yesterday

So, since my expectations were so low I was kind of blown away by his statement. However, one thing I have noticed. He can and does occasionally hit the administration hard. But he refrains from personally attacking trump.

popsdenver

(2,920 posts)
7. They key to all their rhetoric is
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 06:34 PM
Yesterday

They constantly use their "dog whistle" wording. Blame Biden, Hillary, Bill Clinton, hell they are still even blaming Carter.....

And they are nearing elections, so of course, expect their normal, election year rhetoric......Gays/Guns/God,

Along with their classical.............. (works every single time,)......."OCTOBER SURPRISE" two weeks before the election.......

Scubamatt

(352 posts)
8. Thank you!
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 06:36 PM
Yesterday

For your comment - Tapper forever lost any credibility IMO, by claiming that the Biden Administration playing down his age was the biggest threat to democracy

SouthBayDem

(33,478 posts)
9. The New York Times ran an interview with Whitmire
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 07:03 PM
Yesterday

calling him "The Democratic Mayor Who Thinks Cities Are Handling Trump Wrong". In the interview, the mayor emphasized his focus on local issues instead of criticizing Trump: "I don’t respond to Trump — that could be counterproductive. Do I have personal views? Sure, and they’re strong, but why do you want to challenge him?"

Reporter J. David Goodman wrote, "With rhetoric escalating over immigration raids and National Guard troop deployments, Mayor Whitmire is betting that the best way to govern a large American city right now is to keep your head down."

This was in October 2025.

senseandsensibility

(26,203 posts)
10. Well, I think he's changed his tune
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 07:13 PM
Yesterday

about how to deal with him, although asking for transparency is not really all that "out there" of a request. Anyway, at this point he probably wants to stand up for his constituent.

AZLD4Candidate

(7,138 posts)
11. Up yours, Trump Enabler. You, Jake Tapper, spent four years attacking Joe Biden for. . .reasons
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 07:31 PM
Yesterday

Now you are shocked at Trump's Freikorps going fascist and authoritarian things? Your self-righteous indignation is pathetic.

quakerboy

(14,947 posts)
12. What point is there in quoting the current regime or its dubious monarch on anything?
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 07:34 PM
Yesterday

Literally you could make up anything you want and have exactly the same accuracy and chance of being truthful. And the same chance of Republicans believing what you say or acting on it.

senseandsensibility

(26,203 posts)
13. True, but this quote is from Tapper.
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 07:36 PM
Yesterday

I thought he laid it out pretty well. Basically said DHS is lying, has a history of lying, and how can people believe them? Thought it was worth pointing out.

quakerboy

(14,947 posts)
15. Yeah. Im just saying, whats the point in reporting anything ICE or its lord say
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 08:05 PM
Yesterday

Report what they do, sure. But their words are not worth reporting. They are not news.

BaronChocula

(5,070 posts)
14. This is how authoritarianism is practiced
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 07:51 PM
Yesterday

A paramilitary group with inadequate to no training runs around terrorizing communities while breaking the law and refusing to cooperate in municipalities where law and order are still followed. The mayor should have known about this stonewalling from the events in Minnesota, but his first impulse was to step aside and let the wolves investigate the wolves. I don't know. Maybe he didn't have many options. But why would he have fewer options than Mary Moriarty, Hennepin Co, Minnesota DA who is pursuing investigations into ICE killings?

pat_k

(14,758 posts)
16. It will take the courts to get the evidence out of the corrupt executive regime.. and it will be a battle.
Fri Jul 10, 2026, 08:39 PM
Yesterday

And the fact that is the reality we live in is all part of the horror of it all.

But there are countless people fighting the insanity every single minute of every single day.

I believe this is the last gasp and a horrific culmination of a 45 year-long project to end our liberal democracy that is essentially a racist, soulless, corporatist "backlash" against progress made in the 50s, 60s, and 70s.

But the thing is, I think the backlash against the current insanity will be so, so, so much more powerful -- and so, so, so much faster.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221364819

Skittles

(173,934 posts)
17. maybe Tapper should write a book about INCREASING FASCISM IN AMERICA
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 12:00 AM
21 hrs ago

because THAT is what it is

GoodRaisin

(11,225 posts)
18. "How much longer the public should believe them"? Huh? Haven't we already moved past that point?
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 01:00 AM
20 hrs ago

Like, with the first murder they lied about that we all saw on television in the videos? Or the second? (If that wasn’t enough.)

Orrex

(67,628 posts)
19. Anyone who still supports ICE will never abandon them.
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 06:39 AM
15 hrs ago

They love Trump and his murderous gestapo.

Bluepinky

(2,588 posts)
20. I have no respect for Jake Tapper.
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 09:26 AM
12 hrs ago

Even his ICE rebuttal is weak criticism. I’ll respect him more after he writes his hard-hitting book about the orange man and his regime.

Scruffy1

(3,574 posts)
25. What a dumbasa.
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 01:05 PM
8 hrs ago

Even this is a stupid sentence First they lie and withhold evidence. When they are caught then maybe they fold. This is not just !ting it's felony obstruction of justice and maybe aiding and abetting murderers.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,507 posts)
26. Why are we looking for a corn kernel
Sat Jul 11, 2026, 01:19 PM
8 hrs ago

In a dung pile. He is partially responsible for this horror movie we are extras in. No redemption.

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