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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMI-SEN: Abdul El-Sayed is using the same advisers as Graham Platner.
Meanwhile in Michigan, Abdul El-Sayed, a progressive who is endorsed by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), has opened up a lead in the polls over Rep. Haley Stevens (D-Mich.), who is backed by Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and viewed by party leaders in Washington as the better candidate in a general election.
Platners collapse in Maine could steer progressive donors to funnel their money to El-Sayed, who now emerges as the most prominent Senate candidate aligned with the democratic socialist movement.
El-Sayed has used the same political strategy firm, Fight Agency, as Platner and New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani (D).
El-Sayed, a former public health director, says he is running against both parties and called for Platner to drop out of the Maine Senate race after his opponent, Stevens, criticized him for not doing so.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5961901-democrats-senate-control-threatened/
Boo1
(765 posts)A line straight out of Katz playbook.
Anybody that uses Fight Agency needs to lose their primary now.
Renew Deal
(85,530 posts)Boo1
(765 posts)Fuck Fight Agency
Renew Deal
(85,530 posts)aocommunalpunch
(4,605 posts)Guessing hes not a real Democrat?
Boo1
(765 posts)Can say they are a Democrat if they are running against the Democratic party.
Bettie
(20,071 posts)all Progressives excised from our party.
betsuni
(29,532 posts)Self-excising.
mr715
(5,066 posts)Have you listened to him?
Are you opposed to progressive politicians?
Demsrule86
(71,588 posts)Senators who were retiring mostly...this allow the ACA support to be ended.
Personally, I want expect better from my party. I will and always have voted Democratic in an election...but primaries exist to get the best that we can...folks who will work for us.
Boo1
(765 posts)Should just keep the government shut down forever?
Thats absurd and not remotely realistic.
Emile
(44,336 posts)Unity Task Force for Healthcare, helping craft policies that are lowering prescription drug prices today.
He's a good democrat, let's not start smearing him too!
B.See
(9,106 posts)same kind of... stuff... some tried to pull on Mamdani. Anyone beginning to smell a pattern?
Emile
(44,336 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(5,081 posts)B.See
(9,106 posts)"they" as much as a "some" or that it's "marching orders" as much as, what, I don't know.
(I'm working on a conclusion and the jury's still out.)
But as I said here, whether progressive or not, there are Democratic candidates who seem to be able to generate excitement, (hope?) and inspire a following in ways that some others fail to do.
And the latter had better figure out why.
Nanjeanne
(6,916 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(8,515 posts)
Boo1
(765 posts)The Democratic party and working with Morris Katz.
Red flags
SocialDemocrat61
(8,515 posts)a Nazi tatoo. LOL
Cha
(321,807 posts)Votes since he's "running against them"?
Do these Dem bashers know it's not just about them but about the Midterms, too?!!
Because, as we all know, if we don't win the Midterms, nothing changes, only gets exponentially worse.
MorbidButterflyTat
(5,081 posts)Or using any dirty Democratic apparatus.
Third party BS.
Cha
(321,807 posts)familiar?
TY
aocommunalpunch
(4,605 posts)Going to see him in a few days, too. Go, Abdul!
Raftergirl
(2,027 posts)You can kiss the independents goodbye.
November is going to be a disaster for the Democrats. Wont even need the Republicans to eff around with the election.
Quiet Em
(3,359 posts)especially if El-Sayed was hesitant at first to call on Platner to drop out. Fairly, or unfairly, they will be tied together.
Telling Platner to drop out after credible accusations of rape was a no brainer. There should have been no hesistation to do so.
That said, I don't have anything against El-Sayed but he should look into getting better advisors.
leftstreet
(41,449 posts)I don't get the connection
aocommunalpunch
(4,605 posts)Just a thinly-veiled smear of El-Sayed. Its four paragraphs from an article on Platner. They just added it in the middle of the article. Maybe Mamdani should be investigated since Fight Agency made ads for him, too? Bollocks.
Boo1
(765 posts)Fight Agency, specifically Katz was threatening women who wanted to come forward with information. Part of a consultants job is to make sure the candidates they recruit and push dont have those types of skeletons that will come out. Katz knew about problematic issue with Platner and women, and then threatened other women himself to hide it.
Continuing to use his agency after that is fair game to criticize and look into more.
MichMan
(17,782 posts)Saw this in another post
The publisher wouldn't allow it, but instead of letting it go, Katz had to include a footnote stating as such.
On page 17, a footnote written by Katz explicitly states:"At first, we were going to use images of my penis to get this point across but the publisher said it was inappropriate so here we are, with some fruit and animal metaphors."
https://democraticunderground.com/100221359810#post9
Polybius
(22,373 posts)Primary date is August 4th.
aocommunalpunch
(4,605 posts)El-Sayed predicts that he will defeat Rogers by 7 points in November. Its gonna be embarrassing for them when I wipe the floor with their candidate, El-Sayed tells me. The confidence is striking given the warnings from many within his own party. But to El-Sayed, Rogers represents a familiar archetype. If you had to draw a caricature of the average politician from the late 90s, it would be Mike Rogers, he says. Theres nothing new about him or his ideas.
mr715
(5,066 posts)Polybius
(22,373 posts)Like near zero chance.
Emile
(44,336 posts)Polybius
(22,373 posts)I never said that he wouldn't win. I just said there's near zero chance that he wins by 7.
Emile
(44,336 posts)Polybius
(22,373 posts)I think it's possible that he can win, but a lot has to go right and if he does, it'll be a squeaker.
Polybius
(22,373 posts)Do you think he will win by at least 7 points?
fujiyamasan
(2,240 posts)It would be close though.
Rogers didnt lose by much, but he should have had some Trump coattails. Trumps popularity has plummeted in the state, so that helps El-Syed.
It also depends if he keeps the focus on affordability/inflation and not about Israel. If they successfully paint him as a Hamas sympathizer, he loses.
Polybius
(22,373 posts)I just created a poll. Please vote in it if you don't mind.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221366062
RandySF
(88,622 posts)MichMan
(17,782 posts)But this seat is no lock.
LeftInTX
(35,196 posts)Yes, they will turn out for El-Sayed, but that doesn't mean they will make or break the election.
EdmondDantes_
(2,379 posts)And Dan Osbourne who improved by 10 points over the previous challenger in Nebraska.
I don't like El-Sayed campaigning with Hasan Piker, but El-Sayed has an impressive resume and one red flag in Piker isn't the same as all the red flags with Platner. I don't need politicians to have my ideal positions on everything because I don't even always agree with myself and can change my mind.
Dumping them now would create a lot of chaos and while the advisors should have done a deeper vetting, they didn't have the tattoo, or the Reddit posts, or rape allegations, etc.
LeftInTX
(35,196 posts)El-Sayed is more well-known and more credible than Platner. He wasn't plucked from obscurity.
pinkstarburst
(2,130 posts)But "I'm running against both parties" doesn't seem like something that needed to be said. But I like his policies. I hope we can get that seat.
Janbdwl72
(334 posts)It is vital that Democrats keep this seat, so I hope the voters in Michigan choose wisely.
Leaving it up to them!
Ilikepurple
(849 posts)Im not doubting he said it, but can only seem to find a Time article where they say hes doing just that. I would think if he made such a quotable remark, itd be easier to find evidence of it. Im not from Michigan and know little about the candidates. Its no secret that hes running on being against the political establishment in both parties as they are to him, but thats not quite the same thing. Im hoping someone who has been following this primary closer will enlighten me as to context.
LetMyPeopleVote
(184,752 posts)LexVegas
(6,980 posts)Cirsium
(4,323 posts)"They have at points worked to elect more traditional candidates, including former President Joe Biden."
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/27/fight-agency-consultants-democrats-00200636
A_Woman_from_MI
(206 posts)Happy I get to vote in Michigan, and not Maine