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PCIntern

(28,787 posts)
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 06:46 AM 19 hrs ago

MEDICAL ALERT: Update on observations of FTD and CHF/RF

(Fronto-Temporal Dementia, Congestive heart failure, and Renal failure)

We are watching an asymptotic progress towards medical crisis. The rate of decline is increasing so the mathematical second derivative is in play here.

He is routinely using obscenities in his public statements, he is no longer recognizing those who should be readily familiar to him, the texture of his skin is changing almost daily, his hair is rapidly thinning, the contours of his face are altered due to edema.

The skin is the largest organ in the body and is very much susceptible to significant metabolic changes as is every other organ. This of course includes the hair follicles. The intricate combover is essentially gone, replaced by a vain attempt to imitate it.

The inability to recognize individuals, which he manifest some time ago, is worsening before our eyes. They have him in relative isolation because he can no longer be allowed to extemporize freely. This began a long time ago when he could not distinguish a photo of the young E.Jean Carroll from Marla Maples Trump, his wife. This, for any other individual, would have been an “all hands on deck” moment.

At this rate, his ability to fake functionality will be essentially zero within two months at the outside.

I may be wrong: I once made a mistake and said “nobody’s perfect”. 😀. But this time…I don’t think so.

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MEDICAL ALERT: Update on observations of FTD and CHF/RF (Original Post) PCIntern 19 hrs ago OP
Our "all hands on deck" moment is the GOP's "clear the deck!" moment. eppur_se_muova 19 hrs ago #1
It's just a wafer thin mint... PCIntern 12 hrs ago #62
I am no Medical expert, but I have EXPERIENCE with Heart issues! ProudMNDemocrat 19 hrs ago #2
I'm sorry for your loss MustLoveBeagles 13 hrs ago #50
Thank you so much. ProudMNDemocrat 12 hrs ago #59
I got FTD for him EYESORE 9001 19 hrs ago #3
The stink from his diapers will overwhelm your flowers. KS Toronado 18 hrs ago #13
I knew a doctor iwillalwayswonderwhy 17 hrs ago #28
whatever end stage disease that causes his demise, it can't come soon enough LymphocyteLover 19 hrs ago #4
I agree MoseShrute 18 hrs ago #7
On one level I agree, Miguelito Loveless 13 hrs ago #55
How much damage could Jv do in two years? Tbear 11 hrs ago #75
That's not a question that I would ask Wicked Blue 10 hrs ago #84
It is one I asked myself a couple nights ago. Tbear 6 hrs ago #112
I'll take Vance any day because he has no control over the cult LymphocyteLover 9 hrs ago #92
And he has to dance to Theilʻs tune as well as soothe Chump mahina 4 hrs ago #120
I suspect FTD as well Raven123 19 hrs ago #5
Briefly, I thought that episode very strange... Escape 16 hrs ago #31
I don't know, I think it is SO on brand for him LR3 13 hrs ago #52
From your keyboard 3Hotdogs 18 hrs ago #6
Don't threaten me with a good time!!! questionseverything 18 hrs ago #8
Famous line by Negan in Walking Dead.... FarPoint 17 hrs ago #22
Last March I had a nurse who had been doing it for 30 years and she said that any ..... Botany 18 hrs ago #9
Independence Day bucolic_frolic 17 hrs ago #30
Oh my, that would just be the best... ECL213 10 hrs ago #91
As long as it is the former of her predictions, the latter is already here RandomNumbers 6 hrs ago #113
But he doesn't need to be able to fake functionality. Scrivener7 18 hrs ago #10
Once upon a time Miguelito Loveless 13 hrs ago #57
He's ditched the ridiculous hats lately too. Hugin 18 hrs ago #11
I think a hat messes up his new wig, gab13by13 18 hrs ago #14
He had a hat on yesterday IbogaProject 17 hrs ago #17
I'm going to start checking to see if it's file footage. Hugin 17 hrs ago #18
It was where recent danage to the WH Columns is shown IbogaProject 17 hrs ago #21
Great post and explanation. Better than the Meidas Touch (and other) youtuber videos promising "IT'S HAPPENING!!" or... QueerDuck 18 hrs ago #12
My favorites are: PCIntern 17 hrs ago #16
But Meidas Touch doubles and sometimes triples Scrivener7 17 hrs ago #26
They look like idiots... that's not the kind of "marketing" that impresses me. Our side needs to do better. QueerDuck 11 hrs ago #73
They may not be trying to impress you... vanlassie 11 hrs ago #74
I can see that my contempt for their repetitive nothing-burgers and clickbait style has probably ruffled the feathers... QueerDuck 11 hrs ago #76
I can't stand Meidas Touch. But I LOVE vanlassie 11 hrs ago #80
Gotcha! 🫂 QueerDuck 10 hrs ago #89
Sure. That's it. Your high standards have ruffled our feathers. Scrivener7 9 hrs ago #99
Clearly. 😂🤣 QueerDuck 9 hrs ago #101
If you don't like it, don't watch it. Scrivener7 9 hrs ago #98
LOL! I don't. But I've watched enough in the past to figure out their cheap gimmick... QueerDuck 9 hrs ago #100
With the big yellow arrow mcar 17 hrs ago #24
Kick dalton99a 18 hrs ago #15
I'm sure the smell is worsening too wolfie001 17 hrs ago #19
Renal failure causes a distinct body and breath odor. RockCreek 16 hrs ago #35
Noice! No sympathy from me wolfie001 12 hrs ago #60
I try to look on the bright side too MustLoveBeagles 13 hrs ago #53
..... wolfie001 12 hrs ago #61
;-{) THIS Goonch 17 hrs ago #20
I noticed the hair. The hair makes the rest of this believable to MAGATs. Festivito 17 hrs ago #23
22 lying medical specialists? GusBob 17 hrs ago #25
Many years ago, I worked for an eye doctor. wnylib 14 hrs ago #40
can get all on Perjury dave99 13 hrs ago #49
Doesn't perjury apply only if the liar is under oath? wnylib 12 hrs ago #64
Just need a Democract, Raskin, to get the 22 to talk in front of a Congresstional Board dave99 10 hrs ago #86
They might use HIPPA as a reason not to answer. wnylib 7 hrs ago #108
Question: Is the thing posing as president a well man ? dave99 7 hrs ago #111
The corneas can swell during pregnancy. 3catwoman3 9 hrs ago #93
Yes, that is one example that the doctor gave me. wnylib 7 hrs ago #109
Do you remember any of the other eye signs the doc told you about? 3catwoman3 5 hrs ago #117
I only remember one other one. It was a long time ago. wnylib 4 hrs ago #119
trump went to Camp David possibly for treatment LetMyPeopleVote 17 hrs ago #27
Doesn't he hate Camp David? 3catwoman3 9 hrs ago #94
trump is NOT a wooded log cabin type of guy LetMyPeopleVote 8 hrs ago #105
Sheesh! Look how he's junked up the Oval Office. calimary 2 hrs ago #125
Maybe FTD but radical noodle 17 hrs ago #29
Sure Jan.... (sadly) OhioBack2Blue 16 hrs ago #32
First of all... PCIntern 16 hrs ago #34
So you're saying he may be down to only 2 years left give or take. Torchlight 14 hrs ago #39
You don't know when he was initially diagnosed. BannonsLiver 13 hrs ago #47
True, but the more comorbidities Miguelito Loveless 13 hrs ago #58
Exactly and PCIntern 7 hrs ago #106
The last of the great Miguelito Loveless 5 hrs ago #118
When did he play golf last? The Madcap 16 hrs ago #33
*heehee* buzzycrumbhunger 11 hrs ago #79
Couldn't he have the common decency to wait until the election night BLUE FUCKING WAVE to die? Submariner 16 hrs ago #36
This "patient" has been doing this for years. progressoid 15 hrs ago #37
Be that as it may, the deterioration is rapidly accelerating. flashman13 14 hrs ago #38
According to this site, The Felon has golfed every Saturday and Sunday the past 2 weeks Wednesdays 14 hrs ago #42
Last weekend was the gladiator games. This weekend Camp David. flashman13 14 hrs ago #44
Yeah, the last golf outing I could find cited outside that site was in March. Wednesdays 13 hrs ago #46
Well they are SAYING he's playing golf, that much is certain. BannonsLiver 13 hrs ago #48
22 specialists say he is the healthiest man ever to occupy the oval office. flashman13 12 hrs ago #66
Yep. Nobody has ever seen anything like it before. BannonsLiver 12 hrs ago #67
Oh, I hate that phrase soooo much. The Madcap 10 hrs ago #82
The "nobody has ever seen anything like it before" part is certainly true. 3catwoman3 9 hrs ago #97
Is swatting balls into ponds & bunkers for your caddy to 'fetch' then riding in a cart really golfing? Attilatheblond 6 hrs ago #114
And I know people who smoked 2 1/2 packs a day and lived to nearly 100 PCIntern 14 hrs ago #41
We could go through thousands of posts detailing trump's poor health over the last 11 years progressoid 12 hrs ago #63
I knew Reagan had early Alzheimer's in his first term PCIntern 12 hrs ago #65
Right. progressoid 12 hrs ago #70
Alzheimer's in particular can progress at varying speeds PCIntern 11 hrs ago #71
There's also roadkill loon RFK Jr. running the Dept. of Health Wicked Blue 10 hrs ago #88
I hope you're right. However I've been waiting for him to disappear for quite some time... NNadir 14 hrs ago #43
Like a monkey, he will eventually start throwing shit at people. Dan 14 hrs ago #45
Followed by... The Madcap 10 hrs ago #83
Got fireworks on standby!!! N/t gay texan 13 hrs ago #51
For some reason wendyb-NC 13 hrs ago #54
trumps his ugly & dumber twin MustLoveBeagles 13 hrs ago #56
They are propping up Vance is also a big tell on the orange one's future. boston bean 12 hrs ago #68
Yup, they have him all over the place obamanut2012 12 hrs ago #69
The day Orange Julius Caesar dies, the US will have TWO Independence Days to celebrate! generalbetrayus 11 hrs ago #72
The downside of this genetic combination of Anolis lizard and octopus that has laid her last eggs DFW 11 hrs ago #77
Well what about President Jeffries? NNadir 11 hrs ago #78
Even assuming we take the House DFW 10 hrs ago #87
I'm fairly confident we will take the house. NNadir 10 hrs ago #90
So am I, however.... DFW 9 hrs ago #102
Well, the problem with soothsaying about the future is that it is only good until the future comes. NNadir 8 hrs ago #104
True enough DFW 2 hrs ago #124
That is a very scary situation! CaliforniaPeggy 11 hrs ago #81
The suspense is killing me buzzycrumbhunger 10 hrs ago #85
His father is said to have lived to 93 nitpicked 9 hrs ago #95
His father undoubtedly did not live on a diet of Big Macs PCIntern 9 hrs ago #96
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy! Bluepinky 9 hrs ago #103
Waiting for FacePlant as it walks down a staircase, hitting several step edges as it ozes down dave99 7 hrs ago #107
Chunks and limbs falling off all the way down Blue Owl 4 hrs ago #122
The least he can do for us is to drop dead on camera. Iggo 7 hrs ago #110
Mom actually drove the car through the garage wall TBF 6 hrs ago #115
TickTock. Thank you for this. Made my day. He's a menace to the world. Joinfortmill 6 hrs ago #116
Oh Donny boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling..... Blue Owl 4 hrs ago #121
K&R spanone 4 hrs ago #123

eppur_se_muova

(42,887 posts)
1. Our "all hands on deck" moment is the GOP's "clear the deck!" moment.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:06 AM
19 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:45 PM - Edit history (1)

Nobody wants to be too close when he blows.

ProudMNDemocrat

(21,029 posts)
2. I am no Medical expert, but I have EXPERIENCE with Heart issues!
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:09 AM
19 hrs ago

In the 6 months before my husband died, he changed so much medically and in personality.

Skin changes: More bruises in places not usually prone to be struck. More puffiness due to fluid retention. The whites of his eyes looking more yellow.

Obvious physical changes: More Exhaustion. He would complain he was so tired after getting what I could see a good night's sleep. Less physical activity. Balance issues becoming more noticeable. Loss of appetite. More anger and cruel words.(I was his caregiver and it was not easy.) More frequent memory loss due to lack of blood flow to the brain.

Medical changes: Shortness of breath. Edema everywhere from Kidney failure. Irregular heart rates. Agitation due to growing awareness of death.

Donald Trump is exhibiting all these signs. His awful appearance at the G7 was obvious. He has Congestive Heart Failure with growing Kidney and Liver failure. The changes in the skin turning more yellow and orange from higher Bilirubin levels. Some turn more white. My husband was turning orange and bruised. He was also a Type II Diabetic. When I could no longer care for him, my husband was taken to another section of the Facility where he could get more care and supervision. 11 days later, he was dead.

It is becoming more obvious that Donald Trump is deteriorating rapidly. His tweets are becoming more erratic and paranoid in tone. It's time for the 25th Amendment.

MustLoveBeagles

(18,251 posts)
50. I'm sorry for your loss
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:47 PM
13 hrs ago

It must've been heartbreaking for you to see your husband turn into a stranger. My grandma and mom were in a similar situation.

ProudMNDemocrat

(21,029 posts)
59. Thank you so much.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:33 PM
12 hrs ago

It has been a year now, but I remember all of this as if it were yesterday.

Miguelito Loveless

(6,040 posts)
55. On one level I agree,
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:20 PM
13 hrs ago

on the other the guy who currently calls himself Vance and who is totally beholden to Peter Thiel.

Tbear

(754 posts)
75. How much damage could Jv do in two years?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:03 PM
11 hrs ago

Assuming a democratic House. Theil’s best chance as it will be.

Wicked Blue

(9,080 posts)
84. That's not a question that I would ask
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:40 PM
10 hrs ago

Repukes are capable of the most horrible deeds.

Tbear

(754 posts)
112. It is one I asked myself a couple nights ago.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:38 PM
6 hrs ago

I really don’t know and that concerns me.

mahina

(20,829 posts)
120. And he has to dance to Theilʻs tune as well as soothe Chump
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:50 PM
4 hrs ago

While placating the 30% and not setting the world of fire in plain sight.

Plus, Theil is a giant wierdo.

Raven123

(8,022 posts)
5. I suspect FTD as well
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:31 AM
19 hrs ago

His hallucinating over Meloni recently was the most obvious reminder.

Escape

(542 posts)
31. Briefly, I thought that episode very strange...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:35 AM
16 hrs ago

Of course, he lies constantly, but to make up such a silly story based on nothing was bizarre...BUT, as the disaster of the Iran War, his idiotic birthday bash and the green slime pool were unfolding, the media and the American people were captivated by the blatant bullshit about Meloni.

So, it became the distraction du jour, just as it was intended.

LR3

(214 posts)
52. I don't know, I think it is SO on brand for him
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:55 PM
13 hrs ago

To me, it seems like a classic example of his narcissism--everyone is begging for his attention because he is the world's most powerful, wonderful, and in demand person in all of history in his mind.

Botany

(78,193 posts)
9. Last March I had a nurse who had been doing it for 30 years and she said that any .....
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:54 AM
18 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:10 AM - Edit history (2)

…. patient that exhibited the signs she saw from Trump was gone in under a year either
dead or cognitively. I hope she was right. The White House is trying to hide it but they
can’t any longer. When he stormed out of his interview with NBC’s Welker he could barely
stand up and walked away with slumped shoulders too.

Could the 4th really be a real Independence Day?


Edit

Trump’s break down mentally can be seen in his use of obscene language in public,
his preposterous claims that vandals are what is wrong with the reflecting pool after
he fucked it up, that Italy’s President (P.M.?) begged him to get her picture taken
with him, and forgetting about diplomacy telling Iran that he is going to over the strait
of Hormuz along with stealing their oil as peace talks are underway. He has no more
filters.

He is also has been in hiding @ Camp David and he posted something about Father’s
Day to an unknown daughter.



bucolic_frolic

(56,296 posts)
30. Independence Day
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:19 AM
17 hrs ago

The Deliverance, the Irony, the Symbolism

May our Founders have their Day

ECL213

(467 posts)
91. Oh my, that would just be the best...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 04:26 PM
10 hrs ago

Then every year we could celebrate his death with fireworks.

RandomNumbers

(19,302 posts)
113. As long as it is the former of her predictions, the latter is already here
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:48 PM
6 hrs ago

(referring to this part of the post: "was gone in under a year either dead or cognitively" )

Scrivener7

(60,317 posts)
10. But he doesn't need to be able to fake functionality.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 07:58 AM
18 hrs ago

That's always been the problem. He could strip naked and run through the streets and the press will say he's being "unorthodox" or he's "giving a strong message."

Miguelito Loveless

(6,040 posts)
57. Once upon a time
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:25 PM
13 hrs ago

I said the Child Rapist could beat a kitten to death with a puppy on the White House lawn and the Corporate Media and his followers would praise him for helping homeless animals.

I have since modified it to "Trump could rape young MAGA daughters, and the Corporate Media™ would praise him for addressing women's issues, while MAGA would berate their wives for not birthing enough daughters."

Hugin

(38,099 posts)
11. He's ditched the ridiculous hats lately too.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:00 AM
18 hrs ago

Looking back it seems to have happened a couple of months ago. I didn’t realize it until I saw the military propaganda video.

Hugin

(38,099 posts)
18. I'm going to start checking to see if it's file footage.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:37 AM
17 hrs ago

It’s also possible that occasionally a handler hands him a hat. It doesn’t seem internally vanity driven lately.

QueerDuck

(2,098 posts)
12. Great post and explanation. Better than the Meidas Touch (and other) youtuber videos promising "IT'S HAPPENING!!" or...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:02 AM
18 hrs ago

... "TODAY IS THE DAY!" or "TRUMP COLLAPSES!" or "OMG HE'S DYING!" with their fake proclamations and clickbait promises and AI-generated-yellow-arrow-Impact-font fake thumbnails.

This actually gives me hope! Thank you!

Scrivener7

(60,317 posts)
26. But Meidas Touch doubles and sometimes triples
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:05 AM
17 hrs ago

Joe Rogan's viewerships. Because of that marketing. They're reaching the ones who are not like us. I am grateful to them for that.

QueerDuck

(2,098 posts)
73. They look like idiots... that's not the kind of "marketing" that impresses me. Our side needs to do better.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 02:44 PM
11 hrs ago

How many times can someone hear "HE'S DYING" or "HE COLLAPSED" and "TODAY IS THE DAY" before they realize it's all bullshit. --- It just sucks people into a vortex or hype, snake-oil, broken promises, empty lies, repetitition, along with gloom and doom, and "please subscribe" requests. It benefits only their bottom line. They have become the commercialized "main stream media" that they used to criticize.

But having said that: "At least they're on our side. Yay. I guess."

vanlassie

(6,294 posts)
74. They may not be trying to impress you...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 02:51 PM
11 hrs ago

“Meidas Touch doubles and sometimes triples
6:05 AM
Joe Rogan's viewerships. Because of that marketing. They're reaching the ones who are not like us. ”

QueerDuck

(2,098 posts)
76. I can see that my contempt for their repetitive nothing-burgers and clickbait style has probably ruffled the feathers...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:05 PM
11 hrs ago

...of at least one of fans and admirers. Sorry.

"They may not be trying to impress you..." Ha! Ya think? 😂🤣

I guess I just have higher standards. We can do better than those guys.

vanlassie

(6,294 posts)
80. I can't stand Meidas Touch. But I LOVE
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:29 PM
11 hrs ago

anything that gets the attention of people who like that shit.

It’s not about us. 😉

Scrivener7

(60,317 posts)
99. Sure. That's it. Your high standards have ruffled our feathers.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 05:01 PM
9 hrs ago

Because we care deeply that you don't like a YouTube channel.
Have a nice night.

QueerDuck

(2,098 posts)
100. LOL! I don't. But I've watched enough in the past to figure out their cheap gimmick...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 05:04 PM
9 hrs ago

... and to know that it's all about lining their own pockets at the expense of gullible subscribers who fall for the clickbait. It deserved to be called-out and labeled for what it is, not defended.

wolfie001

(8,167 posts)
19. I'm sure the smell is worsening too
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:44 AM
17 hrs ago

I find it comforting that his closest bootlickers are having to deal with Dump's 3D stink-O-vision in real time.

RockCreek

(1,623 posts)
35. Renal failure causes a distinct body and breath odor.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 10:11 AM
16 hrs ago

The bottom stench may serve a function of covering up that smell.

Festivito

(13,950 posts)
23. I noticed the hair. The hair makes the rest of this believable to MAGATs.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:58 AM
17 hrs ago

They do have their breaking point.

Does his body end before the war ends? Or before our strategic fuel supply runs dry.

GusBob

(8,322 posts)
25. 22 lying medical specialists?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:01 AM
17 hrs ago

What exactly the sanction against them?
Are they committing fraud or treason ?
Do they all know, or is the truth covered up from each specialist? ( I.e the eye guy doesn’t get the whole history and his told: your report is eyes only, nothing else ) given that, are they practicing full scope quality of care or substandard inadequate voodism?
Are all medical specialists MD’s ? Are there some sort who take no oath?
If your theory is correct, they are putting the safety of the nation and the world at risk, I wonder: how can they sleep at night?

wnylib

(26,785 posts)
40. Many years ago, I worked for an eye doctor.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:06 PM
14 hrs ago

He told me that several disorders can be diagnosed or suspected in eye exams. As he put it, the eye is the mirror of the body, not just the "soul" as poets say.

He said that he could tell things like when a woman was pregnant even if her pregnancy was not yet visible.

I have an autoimmune disorder that was discovered after an eye doctor told me, following an exam, that I needed to see an internist for a complete physical because there was something systemic that was causing my blurred vision. She did not know what the specific cause was, but she knew that my vision had changed too much in just one year for an adult. She suspected diabetes bc it exists in.my family. She was not far off. It is not diabetes, which is also an autoimmune disorder, but mine can show up in families where diabetes is present.

So an eye specialist would know if more was going on with Trump than vision problems.

Disorders in one system can show symptoms in other systems of the body. That's why a doctor will suspect something in a physical and refer a patient to a different specialist.

Trump's 22 doctors are all most likely aware of other medical issues in him besides their own specialties.

wnylib

(26,785 posts)
64. Doesn't perjury apply only if the liar is under oath?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:48 PM
12 hrs ago

Were the doctors under oath when they gave their reports to the press?

dave99

(491 posts)
86. Just need a Democract, Raskin, to get the 22 to talk in front of a Congresstional Board
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:43 PM
10 hrs ago

Wonder what any of the 22 will say?

wnylib

(26,785 posts)
108. They might use HIPPA as a reason not to answer.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 06:52 PM
7 hrs ago

I am not trying to set up roadblocks to info, just recognizing what the doctors might do.

dave99

(491 posts)
111. Question: Is the thing posing as president a well man ?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 06:56 PM
7 hrs ago

Can't answer a vague request for status ?

Looks like a 60 day to 320 day Perjury visit to prison plus fine.

3catwoman3

(30,121 posts)
93. The corneas can swell during pregnancy.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 04:45 PM
9 hrs ago

A colleague was not able to wear her contact lenses while pregnant because of this.

3catwoman3

(30,121 posts)
117. Do you remember any of the other eye signs the doc told you about?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:54 PM
5 hrs ago

My retired nurse self loves knowing things like this.

wnylib

(26,785 posts)
119. I only remember one other one. It was a long time ago.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:39 PM
4 hrs ago

Last edited Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:40 AM - Edit history (1)

He mentioned that he could see signs of diabetes in the eyes. He even told me what the signs were but I do not remember them now..

calimary

(91,386 posts)
125. Sheesh! Look how he's junked up the Oval Office.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:16 AM
2 hrs ago

All that cheesy “gold” crap by on the walls and doors.

Really trashy-looking.

radical noodle

(10,737 posts)
29. Maybe FTD but
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:10 AM
17 hrs ago

I tend to think this is just a malignant narcissist who has been given unlimited power to do whatever he wants. He's always been this way, but just on a different level. The Supreme Court gave him immunity and the GOP has given him a blank check, which means he believes he can do all those things that deep down he's always wanted to do.

OhioBack2Blue

(225 posts)
32. Sure Jan.... (sadly)
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:37 AM
16 hrs ago

The average life expectancy for Frontotemporal dementia (FTD) is typically 6 to 13 years from the onset of symptoms, with many patients living about 7.5 to 10 years. However, progression rates vary, and some individuals can live for 20 years or more after the first signs of the disease.

Congestive Heart Failure (CHF) life expectancy varies significantly. While average estimates suggest about half of people survive past 5 years post-diagnosis, many live 10 to 15 years or longer.

PCIntern

(28,787 posts)
34. First of all...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:50 AM
16 hrs ago

Onset was not last week…he’s in a definite medical crisis. If he came into my office I’d send him right to the ER if he hadn’t already been in treatment. I think he’s had FTD for a long time now, it’s worsening rapidly.

That’s my considered opinion as someone who has worked with this geriatric population for nearly 50 years and in addition, watched my father go through the heart failure and concomitant kidney failure.

Torchlight

(7,202 posts)
39. So you're saying he may be down to only 2 years left give or take.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:42 AM
14 hrs ago

...dependent on interpretation of asserted data.

BannonsLiver

(21,014 posts)
47. You don't know when he was initially diagnosed.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:35 PM
13 hrs ago

I’m not sure I buy into the OPs hypothesis. There has been a lot of prognostication on this subject. but I don’t buy into the “he’s fine, he’ll live another decade” side of the argument either.

Miguelito Loveless

(6,040 posts)
58. True, but the more comorbidities
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:30 PM
13 hrs ago

the shorter that can be. Also, he started exhibiting dementia signs a decade ago.

The Madcap

(2,151 posts)
33. When did he play golf last?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:42 AM
16 hrs ago

How many holes? Final score?

I would think that once he stops, it's a signal of "GAME OVER."

buzzycrumbhunger

(2,374 posts)
79. *heehee*
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:24 PM
11 hrs ago

I doubt we’ve *ever* seen an accurate golf score for him. He lies about golf more than anything. Just think of all those tournaments at his course in which he declared total victory. I haven’t golfed since high school, I shattered my knee almost 20 years ago, and I bet even I could still beat him if someone impartial kept score.

Submariner

(13,486 posts)
36. Couldn't he have the common decency to wait until the election night BLUE FUCKING WAVE to die?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 10:26 AM
16 hrs ago

Of all the fucking nerve to appear to be getting ready to croak at the Camp David Hospice as summer fun kicks off.

I guess we should probably start reserving bicycle beer bars to follow the funeral procession for the party of the century.

progressoid

(53,529 posts)
37. This "patient" has been doing this for years.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:01 AM
15 hrs ago
-He is routinely using obscenities in his public statements
-he is no longer recognizing those who should be readily familiar to him
-The inability to recognize individuals

-etc


Heck, I know someone who exhibited most of these symptoms and was able to function independently until he was 91. He's still going at 93 today.

flashman13

(2,624 posts)
38. Be that as it may, the deterioration is rapidly accelerating.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:38 AM
14 hrs ago

The real give away is that he has quit playing golf. No question, FTD is on full display.

Wednesdays

(23,430 posts)
42. According to this site, The Felon has golfed every Saturday and Sunday the past 2 weeks
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:19 PM
14 hrs ago

And at least once a week since May 2.

Don't know how accurate the site is, so take the info as you will.


https://didtrumpgolftoday.com/

Having said that, as PCIntern pointed out, that doesn't at all mean he doesn't have FTD, CHF, or RF.

Wednesdays

(23,430 posts)
46. Yeah, the last golf outing I could find cited outside that site was in March.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:35 PM
13 hrs ago

OAN posted June 5 a video he put on Truth Social of him teeing off. But who knows when that video was actually shot? And if recent, was that all the golf he played that day?


On edit: this article from June 1 says The Felon "played golf," but details are scant. How many holes did he play? How well did he do? They just comment on the "mystery blonde" that accompanied him. Any bets that the "mystery blonde" was an undercover physician or nurse?
https://www.themirror.com/sport/golf/donald-trump-rocks-up-golf-1864202

BannonsLiver

(21,014 posts)
48. Well they are SAYING he's playing golf, that much is certain.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:41 PM
13 hrs ago

Who knows if it’s actually happening, though. Like everything else with this cabal it is hazardous to take anything at face value.

The Madcap

(2,151 posts)
82. Oh, I hate that phrase soooo much.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:34 PM
10 hrs ago

Every time I watch baseball on MLB, there's an ad for tennis coverage which contains a variation on that statement. It is so annoying, I turn the volume down when I know it's coming.

3catwoman3

(30,121 posts)
97. The "nobody has ever seen anything like it before" part is certainly true.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 04:57 PM
9 hrs ago

I hope we never do again.

Attilatheblond

(9,460 posts)
114. Is swatting balls into ponds & bunkers for your caddy to 'fetch' then riding in a cart really golfing?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:15 PM
6 hrs ago

I dunno much about golf, but that's not how my brother and brother in law play

PCIntern

(28,787 posts)
41. And I know people who smoked 2 1/2 packs a day and lived to nearly 100
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:13 PM
14 hrs ago

Most who did that died way way sooner. You only remember the exceptions to the rule.

For example: when’s the last time you heard someone say, “Look at the real tall old man !”? Sure there are a few, but most are gone early, relatively speaking.

progressoid

(53,529 posts)
63. We could go through thousands of posts detailing trump's poor health over the last 11 years
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:44 PM
12 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Jun 22, 2026, 02:18 PM - Edit history (1)

and find all sorts of diagnoses and claims of his imminent demise. And yet he goes on.

Yes, he has become more erratic over the last decade. And he has certainly slowed with age - as we all have. However, he has a few things we don't have: Some of the best doctors in the US. A cadre of people (like the project 2024 clan) who have a vested interest in keeping him in office. And most importantly, he has a sycophantic, cowardly media that will cover for any diminished functioning he is experiencing.

We all watched Reagan's decline while in office and he also managed to hang in there and inflict more damage to the US.

PCIntern

(28,787 posts)
65. I knew Reagan had early Alzheimer's in his first term
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 01:50 PM
12 hrs ago

Which was obvious to some clinicians because he had that fixation on the clear glass jar of jellybeans which had to be omnipresent. But virtually nobody I recall had a countdown for his passing. He was clearly a physically prodigious specimen.

progressoid

(53,529 posts)
70. Right.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 02:16 PM
12 hrs ago

And yet Ronnie continued to sit in the oval office and fuck up our nation until the end of his term.

I suppose I don't understand this fascination with Trump's physical health.

PCIntern

(28,787 posts)
71. Alzheimer's in particular can progress at varying speeds
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 02:35 PM
11 hrs ago

His condition was not rapid like Trump’s is.

The reason it’s a subject of interest is that it’s the ultimate rate-limiting thing that will end this cult once and for all. They will find other people to glom onto, but he or she will not have the staying power coupled with the arrogance, narcissism, and plain stupidity of this guy.

Wicked Blue

(9,080 posts)
88. There's also roadkill loon RFK Jr. running the Dept. of Health
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:54 PM
10 hrs ago

and who knows what weird things he's suggesting for T-rump.

Eye of newt, toe of frog, crack cocaine, algae from the Reflecting Pool ...

NNadir

(38,833 posts)
43. I hope you're right. However I've been waiting for him to disappear for quite some time...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 12:23 PM
14 hrs ago

...and regrettably he is still here.

DFW

(60,759 posts)
77. The downside of this genetic combination of Anolis lizard and octopus that has laid her last eggs
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:07 PM
11 hrs ago

Is “President” JD Vance, and even if the Republicans “persuade” him to step down, whether using the Goldwater Method or the Putin Method, then there’s “President” Mike Johnson to worry about.

We are, in both scenarios, a very large rudderless battleship with nuclear ordnance.

DFW

(60,759 posts)
87. Even assuming we take the House
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 03:49 PM
10 hrs ago

That would dissolve every Republican incentive to carry out any plans that they or Putin may have in place for Vance to start taking lessons for his pilot’s licence from some tenth floor hotel room.

NNadir

(38,833 posts)
90. I'm fairly confident we will take the house.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 04:22 PM
10 hrs ago

A President Jeffries seems as unlikely, I confess as say, in 2015, an ignorant, badly educated, inarticulate, racist, orange, pedophile becoming President of the United States.

It sounds like the plot of a badly scripted science fiction/horror film, totally unbelievable.

Improbable things do happen, not only for bad, but here and there for good.

DFW

(60,759 posts)
102. So am I, however....
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 05:07 PM
9 hrs ago

Trump and Vance would have to be permanently neutralized before January 3, 2027, or else the Republicans would never let Vance get even a band-aid if they feared it could to a President Jeffries. In case of Trump’s early demise, they could also nominate and ram through someone like Bondi or Hegseth as VP, in which case even Jeffries himself would order bodyguards and food tasters for Vance.

NNadir

(38,833 posts)
104. Well, the problem with soothsaying about the future is that it is only good until the future comes.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 05:56 PM
8 hrs ago

DFW

(60,759 posts)
124. True enough
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:16 AM
2 hrs ago

I remember Election Day 2016

There was no sunrise for the next four years

nitpicked

(2,039 posts)
95. His father is said to have lived to 93
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 04:52 PM
9 hrs ago

AND he's a sitting president with all of Walter Reed et.al. on tap.

Don't get your hopes up yet.

((Of course, I'm not a medical professional, but...))

PCIntern

(28,787 posts)
96. His father undoubtedly did not live on a diet of Big Macs
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 04:56 PM
9 hrs ago

and because you’re not a medical professional and I am, I’m speaking from competence. I have watched countless individuals pass away, including my father, from what he’s exhibiting physically.

dave99

(491 posts)
107. Waiting for FacePlant as it walks down a staircase, hitting several step edges as it ozes down
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 06:44 PM
7 hrs ago

TBF

(37,598 posts)
115. Mom actually drove the car through the garage wall
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 08:19 PM
6 hrs ago

and into the living room in her early 80s. My husband and I then realized we were dealing with his parents getting more ill. At that point she was ostensibly healthier, while dad was in rehab after a scare. Thankfully they had long-term care insurance, so we increased the hours we had aides in their home (and added tasks like take them shopping), so they were safe. Even with excellent care we lost them both within a couple years.

If Trump had a family that cared about him, he would have nurses in Mar a Lago caring for him 24/7 right now, rather than this hell we are all dealing with.

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