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LetMyPeopleVote

(182,291 posts)
Sat May 23, 2026, 04:25 PM 15 hrs ago

Trump is trying to bury something big -- and he just gave away the game: ex-prosecutor

I agree with the other legal types who believe that a President cannot pardon himself. It seems that trump is trying to ignore this fact

Scholars have long argued a president cannot legally pardon themselves, but a new DOJ settlement may have just achieved that result. The agreement wipes the slate clean for everything from private tax matters to family business ventures, completely blocking the DOJ, IRS, and SEC from taking action.

Raw Story (@rawstory.com) 2026-05-20T17:00:17.965Z

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-settlement-2676917477

Donald Trump just signaled he is trying to get away with something big, according to an ex-DOJ lawyer.

Former federal prosecutor Joyce Vance is raising alarms over what she calls a "pardon on steroids" — a one-page Justice Department settlement, signed quietly Monday by acting Attorney General Todd Blanche, that shields Trump, his family, and his businesses from any federal prosecution or civil action for crimes "presently known or unknown."

And Vance says the most pressing question is what, exactly, Trump is trying to bury.

"The optics of this are so bad that it's hard to believe Trump would expose himself to their consequences unless he really needed this deal," Vance wrote in her Civil Discourse newsletter Tuesday. "The protection it offers must be essential in some way we are as of yet unaware of."

The Supreme Court's 2024 immunity ruling already shields Trump from prosecution for official acts. But Vance noted that personal business dealings, tax matters, and private transactions fall outside that umbrella — and those are exactly the areas the new settlement wipes clean.,,,,

Legal scholars have long argued a president cannot pardon himself. Vance says Trump just found the workaround.

"There is no hint in the document of what consequence Trump may be trying to avoid. But many legal commentators believe that while a president’s pardon power is broad, it’s not so broad that he can pardon himself," t
he ex-federal prosecutor wrote. "Here, Trump seems to have found a way around that limitation, obtaining a pardon equivalent and then some for himself and for his family."
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Trump is trying to bury something big -- and he just gave away the game: ex-prosecutor (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote 15 hrs ago OP
I expect the same as usual The Wizard 15 hrs ago #1
Send him to hell. Just Jerome 13 hrs ago #10
He can go to Cuba FakeNoose 12 hrs ago #16
The Trump Crime Family does not want to be hampered by US law. Irish_Dem 15 hrs ago #2
The next Democratic president, his/her AG and the new head of the IRS can simply revoke this agreement. sop 14 hrs ago #3
Shit. On the bright side, PEDO is Cha 14 hrs ago #4
I thought he looked canetoad 14 hrs ago #5
Oh that's right... and that pic Cha 14 hrs ago #6
Piggy's trying to get away with something big??? MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #7
No one gave away the game Ponietz 13 hrs ago #8
Just gawd damn it!!!!!! WHEN IS HE EVER GONNA BE HELD GAWD DAMN RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL HIS SHIT!!!!!! a kennedy 13 hrs ago #9
THIS!!! calimary 13 hrs ago #11
Orrex has a daily thread on how this ends IronLionZion 13 hrs ago #12
Our only slim hope is that the Supreme Court throws the deal out. cstanleytech 13 hrs ago #13
Slim, indeed. 70sEraVet 12 hrs ago #15
So, the $1.8 billion getting handed out to his most rabid followers..... 70sEraVet 12 hrs ago #14
What an acting MAGAt AG can do, a new Democratic AG dedicated to law and justice can undo. flashman13 12 hrs ago #17
It seems a logical conclusion - what are they hiding? yellow dahlia 12 hrs ago #18
My Guess Has Always Been Homicide. Of A Minor. ColoringFool 12 hrs ago #19
The sham agreement will be undone once we take back Congress. eom CoopersDad 12 hrs ago #20
It's temporary... lame54 11 hrs ago #21
The question I have is does the DOJ have unassailable authority KPN 9 hrs ago #22

FakeNoose

(42,475 posts)
16. He can go to Cuba
Sat May 23, 2026, 07:10 PM
12 hrs ago

As soon as get gets there we revoke his US passport and citizenship....

sop

(19,380 posts)
3. The next Democratic president, his/her AG and the new head of the IRS can simply revoke this agreement.
Sat May 23, 2026, 04:56 PM
14 hrs ago

From what I've read, the IRS "immunity agreement" granted to Trump is not an official "statutory IRS Closing Agreement," it is simply a one page memo written by Todd Blanche, Trump's personal attorney, now the acting AG. This "agreement" isn't valid, and it can't provide any immunity without judicial approval.

IRS.gov: "A statutory IRS Closing Agreement (authorized under Internal Revenue Code Section 7121) is a final, legally binding contract between a taxpayer and the IRS. It conclusively settles specific tax issues or total tax liability for past or future taxable periods, and can only be reopened in cases of fraud, malfeasance, or misrepresentation of a material fact."





canetoad

(21,061 posts)
5. I thought he looked
Sat May 23, 2026, 05:11 PM
14 hrs ago

Botoxed to the eyebrows but realised that's not a new photo. He hasn't had that much yellow hair for a coupla years.

Cha

(320,777 posts)
6. Oh that's right... and that pic
Sat May 23, 2026, 05:16 PM
14 hrs ago

doesn't show the turkey neck.

And, that yellow hair

He still looks embalmed to me, though.

TY!

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,767 posts)
7. Piggy's trying to get away with something big???
Sat May 23, 2026, 05:48 PM
14 hrs ago

No way!

In that pic he's saying, "See my big, beautiful bullet hole?"

Ponietz

(4,432 posts)
8. No one gave away the game
Sat May 23, 2026, 06:07 PM
13 hrs ago

except the dumbfuck Americans who either didn’t vote or voted for him. The game has been obvious since he first opened his mouth.

a kennedy

(36,376 posts)
9. Just gawd damn it!!!!!! WHEN IS HE EVER GONNA BE HELD GAWD DAMN RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL HIS SHIT!!!!!!
Sat May 23, 2026, 06:24 PM
13 hrs ago

🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

calimary

(90,879 posts)
11. THIS!!!
Sat May 23, 2026, 06:35 PM
13 hrs ago

THIS!!!!!

THIS RIGHT HERE!!!!!

YES, DAMMIT!!!!! You bet your sweet patootie I’m shouting!!!!!

IronLionZion

(51,568 posts)
12. Orrex has a daily thread on how this ends
Sat May 23, 2026, 06:38 PM
13 hrs ago

His consequences will be in the afterlife apparently.

70sEraVet

(5,635 posts)
14. So, the $1.8 billion getting handed out to his most rabid followers.....
Sat May 23, 2026, 07:00 PM
12 hrs ago

serves as a smokescreen for the REAL corruption! Democrats have been so incensed that violent Jan6ers might get rewarded for trying to overthrow the government, that the real goal of the criminal enterprise (a goal that may be worth WAY more than the 1.8) slips under the radar.

flashman13

(2,573 posts)
17. What an acting MAGAt AG can do, a new Democratic AG dedicated to law and justice can undo.
Sat May 23, 2026, 07:17 PM
12 hrs ago

By what authority can Blanche issue such a document nullifying numerous laws? IMHO Blanche is an unconfirmed nobody.

lame54

(40,140 posts)
21. It's temporary...
Sat May 23, 2026, 08:43 PM
11 hrs ago

It will pretend to be valid as long as they are in power
Then the courts will spit it out

KPN

(17,516 posts)
22. The question I have is does the DOJ have unassailable authority
Sat May 23, 2026, 10:07 PM
9 hrs ago

to create and commit to a settlement like this? I would think a future AG or Special Prosecutor could negate this action by challenging its constitutionality, and investigating and subsequently prosecuting key players involved in the “negotiation”, development and approval of the settlement.

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