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Swede

(40,008 posts)
Thu May 14, 2026, 09:46 AM 5 hrs ago

Unauthorized ICE 'wellness checks' by police at Ohio schools draw outrage

They're going after school kids now?

It was at this school, where nearly three-fourths of the student body is Latino, and two other nearby schools that on 15 April, Tonina Lamanna, a 17-year-veteran police officer in Gratis, Ohio, and a police department colleague whose jurisdiction lies 50 miles away, attempted to question school administrators about children attending the facilities on behalf of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) so-called “wellness checks”.

The law enforcement officers were not received well.

At all three locations, the officers, whose sidearms were visible to school staff at the time and who neglected to tell administrators they were working on behalf of ICE, were denied access to children they sought after failing to produce warrants or papers.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/14/ice-checks-police-cincinnati-schools

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SSJVegeta

(3,083 posts)
2. Thats already a huge amount of increased accountability and legality than if ICE were to do it themselves
Thu May 14, 2026, 09:54 AM
5 hrs ago

Police basically came in and asked permission to kidnap the children. School said no. After some back and forth they leave. Nobody is hurt because local police usually know what they are allowed to do. ICE? Not so much.

erronis

(24,477 posts)
3. I question that "accountabillity". The police should have known what they're doing is unauthorized.
Thu May 14, 2026, 12:30 PM
3 hrs ago

I'll guess that ICE found a couple of LEOs who would gladly carry out these improper orders. Did the police ask to see the warrants and legal paperwork before they agreed to be "officer friendly"?

SSJVegeta

(3,083 posts)
4. Police are generally allowed to ask questions depending on the state.
Thu May 14, 2026, 12:33 PM
3 hrs ago

Even if it isnt legal: if it was ICE doing it themselves, we have a good idea of how much worse that usually goes.

relogic

(241 posts)
5. It depends on
Thu May 14, 2026, 12:41 PM
2 hrs ago

the locality of “local police”. In the current authoritarian, police state deference is given carte blanc regardless of federal, state and local policing abuses by ICE. There are no guarantees of protecting anyone’s Constitutional rights on so many levels. Simply, the prevailing LEO system is rife with compliance for you, but not for them.

For example, first comes the capricious excuse for detainment of a citizen, then the request for I.d. (a presumption that we need to I.d. to satisfy their fishing expedition). Now, the innocence and validity as a person is in question, so the challenge of exerting one’s rights becomes an issue. You are now viewed as obstructing LE. if refusing to give I.d. for simply existing.

Now, up the ante of being viewed as a foreigner child (in this case) here in school illegally, or protesting peacefully against the abuses of ICE and LE generally- see where all this leads in our current meme of all citizens and noncitizens are always viewed with suspicion and automatically a threat to police.

This is a summary why I’m reticent to give additional latitude in many police encounters wherever and for what ever prompts and escalations that repeatedly occur.

SSJVegeta

(3,083 posts)
6. In general local police are always goingto be better than ICE
Thu May 14, 2026, 12:49 PM
2 hrs ago

In part because the criminal jurisdiction provides far more rights to individuals than the "civil" jurisdiction of immigration. 8th amendment simply doesnt apply to immigrants because of the 1892 scotus ruling: Fong Yue Ting vs United States. It basically said that because immigration is not "punishment" then cruel and unusual practices can take place.

BurnDoubt

(1,903 posts)
7. Cherry-picking the Constitution,...
Thu May 14, 2026, 12:59 PM
2 hrs ago

just like the Bible for dubious approval for dubious acts.
Dubious people doing Wrong.
Only The Best People.
Here in the Worst Timeline.
AmeriKKKa the Dutiful….

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