I still believe T-rump was "installed", not elected for his second term...Musk and other oligarchs did this. Damn them..

[wcmagumba]

[The Wizard]

1. The Postmaster General

had his operatives go into Democratic districts in swing states to "collect" the mail in ballots.

[WarGamer]

2. In EVERY swing state? I'd love to see how.

[debsy]

8. That is precisely what makes it seem so suspicious!

How did they manage to win every single swing state when Kamala was ahead in a number of them going into the election.

[EdmondDantes_]

10. That's not correct. She was only ahead in 2 swing states.

https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/

She was ahead in Wisconsin and Michigan. Tied in Pennsylvania. Behind in Arizona, Nevada, North Carolina, and Georgia.

[WarGamer]

15. she wasn't ahead... no votes had been counted. Polling is not voting.

[EdmondDantes_]

19. Considering I'm replying to someone who said she was ahead my point stands

Pendantics aside, the point was clear that Trump was ahead in polls so in was inaccurate to claim Harris was ahead in many of the swing states.

[mchill]

18. Remember--Sidney Powell stole the Doninion software

In December 2020. They used the same BMDs in AZ and PA that she stole from Coffee County, GA. Despite the 60 minute segment, that said these machines are never online, those who know say there are moments they are and one expert from UC Berkeley said this allows them to hack these machines and not be detectable or traceable. Furthermore, the big screens on the Dominion machines in Georgia show what a person voted for, but the actual vote is embedded in the QR code.

[ShepKat]

20. simple

musk and algorithms. Every swing state is what makes it crystal clear.
There were headlines about PA proving it, then they disappeared.

[Cha]

3. Could be... look at their resume, record, Nazi

fucking attitude.

[Walleye]

53. So much knowledge and so much technical skill

You’d think they could find something better to do than be Nazis. Elon Musk is just the richest of the butt-hurt boys. These boys are sure that women have ruined their lives. They enjoy being the grievance victim. Poor babies, they’ve only ever had every advantage in the world

[Kid Berwyn]

56. In character.

Jack Smith, I understand, found evidence Traitor Trump intended to sell the Top Secrets he stole.

[raccoon]

4. I think so too.

[31st Street Bridge]

27. Yep. Votes were shaved/uncounted in heavily Dem districts

Where Biden won by 75-25, Harris only won by 65-35, etc. Scrape off enough votes and you can easily steal a swing state.
Our whole political system is broken.

Look at the graphs of Felon-47's popularity. His numbers were lowest on election day.
And her rallies were far larger than his.
It was rigged and stolen. He continues to whine about 2020 so nobody dares challenge 2024.

[OnionPatch]

5. Same

You can’t convince me they didn’t tweak it. You know they wouldn’t hesitate.

[debsy]

6. I believe he was "installed" the first time around also

Nobody will ever convince me that Putin didn’t play a role in that election.

[yellow dahlia]

11. Yup! When it doesn't add up - it doesn't make sense.

[Old-8643]

23. Don't forget AIPAC! n/m

[31st Street Bridge]

28. That, too

The child rapist has never actually won an election.
There's too much loot to steal for any legitimate voting.

[Attilatheblond]

37. Not just loot to be stolen, but MANY people knew Trump had to win or some of them would end up in prison

Trump for starters, but didn't Elon say as much also? How many 'tech bros' and corporate leaders, let alone everyone in the Epstein files, knew it was win or face trials.

[maddiemom]

30. He was "installed" by the Electoral College the first time...

Not by the majority of the voters. That's what started his entire disastrous reign. They made it easy for Putin.

[Chicagogrl1]

7. I never believed

That the mofo won every swing state. It just stinks to high heaven and I don’t understand why no real investigation took place. Sickening..

[bamagal62]

36. Agree.

[stage left]

9. Ditto.

And I think Musk helped.

[dflprincess]

14. He publicly thanked Musk and commented on how Musk knows those "vote counting computers"

[yellow dahlia]

12. And he was installed specifically to accomplish the destruction being perpetrated right now.

Musk, Thiel, Project 2025, Russia...and so on.

Who does it benefit?

[Kid Berwyn]

40. The Epstein Class

Grifters. Oligarchs. Putin.

[Initech]

13. 100% Elon Musk helped tamper with the election results.

And the proof of it is - he's doing this all over the world! Italy, Argentina, Turkey, Brazil, the UK... they all flipped with Musk's influence and money. The man is absolutely vile and rotten to the core.

[Joinfortmill]

16. Yup.

[ITAL]

17. No

Part of the beauty about the diffused system of states (and even counties and precincts) is it'd be next to impossible to rig. If you think it was rigged for Trump in 2016 and 2024, why not do so in 2020? Or even the House elections of '18, 22...the Special elections, etc. (where it'd be significantly easier).

It's hard to accept Trump won, but he did.

[Cirsium]

45. So...

If a bank robber tried to rob 20 banks and only succeeded 15 times, he therefore wouldn't be a bank robber?

[bluestarone]

21. Well, i'm sure November of this year will tell us the story.

Be ready for TSF to win every toss up state AGAIN. I hope i'm wrong but i can never trust our elections again until WE control everything. Thst's how i feel today!

[FarPoint]

22. Absolutely correct....

That is why Kamala wants the election autopsy report....

I also added a thread in the Astrology and Spirituality Forum today...video.

[brakester]

41. She does?

I hadn't heard that. I'll look it up. That's a good sign if she does.
I felt like she acceded
way too fast and then faded from view. I wasn't happy about that, but what do I know about what she had to go through running against that rotten-souled criminal? He is a soul-sucking
sociopath.

[BannonsLiver]

48. That's not what the autopsy report is about.

It’s about failings within the party not an investigation into alleged election manipulation.

[FarPoint]

49. I believe it is related....

Maybe some DNC cover-up stuff?

[Emile]

24. There was no way in hell trump won every battleground state

after he orchestrated an insurrection four years earlier.

[maddiemom]

33. And his part (or leadership) in that "insurrection",,,

should have made him ineligible to run again.

[Botany]

25. Without a doubt!

There are hundreds of cases of the election being corrupted in 2024.
Musk, Thiel, Eaton, the Cyber Shits, and others including Russia were
very busy in 2024.

Look @ the shits who went a long with Trump to China just now.

[Old-8643]

26. Putin conquered the USA. Election finance reform is needed today!

Putin conquered the USA without firing a single shot.

[hamsterjill]

29. And here come the usual posters of "this couldn't have happened".

Ugh! Always the same ones.

So, in that same category, I'll post my usual response. That is:

I don't know what in the hell happened and I can't prove that Trump stole the election(s), but I have lived my life listening to my gut, and been right most of the time doing that. My gut tells me that SOMETHING happened.

Just because I can't prove it happened does not mean that it didn't happen. There was something not right about 2016, and there was something not right about 2024. Trump made too many comments that showed he KNEW he was going to win. He can't keep a secret. He has to brag, and he bragged about it several times. People blow it off because he never makes any sense. But there's a pattern to his behavior. He loves to let little things slip and then feel superior because he thinks he is party to some secret that most other people don't get to know. It's all a game to him.

So, flame away all you want with your facts and data and research. My gut doesn't care.

[Grim Chieftain]

38. There is no reason to be so caustic

Everyone on DU is entitled to their opinion.

[brakester]

44. I see lots of reasons to be caustic.

I feel the same way the previous poster does. I'm a dedicated truth seeker who reveres facts, but sometimes it is important to be in touch with our intuition. In the case of the PedoPrez, it is so obvious that he is a compulsive liar, an ace incompetent and corrupt to his bones! Ignore my gut in this instance would be self-sabotage!

[hamsterjill]

50. I did not say they weren't.

But, likewise, I am entitled to mine. I'm not being caustic. I'm being honest. Sorry if that offends you. It should not.

[Botany]

43. 17 Counties in Pennsylvania had precincts that had more votes than registered voters.

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/how-did-43598-of-voters-cast-ballots?utm_source=publication-search

Trump in 2024, “We don’t need anymore votes.”
Trump, “Elon knows more about those voting machines than anybody else.” Rough quotes.

[EdmondDantes_]

61. As you were shown when you first tried to pass this off on us, that's not true

https://www.norcopa.gov/corecode/uploads/document6/uploaded_pdfs/corecode/GE24%20Precinct%20Level%20Summary%20Results_1290.pdf

Page 366 demonstrates that precinct 760 only had an 80% turnout.

Thanks to Kaleva for the original source evidence that shows why nobody should ever take This Will Hold seriously.

https://the.democraticunderground.org/100220967788#post23

Continuing to post debunked things is weird.

[Botany]

63. Funny this is the very first time I have ever posted about the anomalies of those 17 countries.

And why are you tracking my posts?
Just because something is debunked doesn’t make it true.

[bluestarone]

46. Maybe it all started in 16 then more in 20. (practicew runs?) Don't know but

2024 we were BURNED badly, my thinking s well. Like i stated up thread the proof might show up this November.Maybe a RECOUNT will be needed, i'm sure

[Botany]

47. Theil and Epstein worked to screw Hillary in 2016. She like Harris 2024 got a big # of "undervotes."

An undervote is when somebody votes but skips voting for a candidate.

So did the 2 Democrats running for Senator from Ohio in 2022 and 2024 get an “undervote” too.

The Republicans haven’t won a legitimate Presidential election since in 1956 without cheating or
being the legacy of that cheating.

[themaguffin]

31. There was fuckery, but it was Facebook etc enabling Putin to push his bullshit etc.

No need to do that if it was rigged already.

[1WorldHope]

32. If people would vote in this country,

they may react to that travesty with the rage it deserves.

[annielion]

34. The numbers tell a story of manipulated vote-counting computers (tabulators)

The results of the 2024 election show the same story in many states across the country, not just swing states. The higher the percentage of voters, the more votes for Trump. This is not the way humans vote. This is the way computers (tabulators) manipulate the vote. The mail-in votes were not touched because they are sent directly to the county. The in-person vote totals were changed on the tabulators when the precincts sent the totals to the county via cellular modems. This is why Trump wants to eliminate mail-in voting. How can he win if he can't manipulate the vote? See ElectionTruthAlliance.org

[Botany]

55. Thank you. For shits like Musk, Thiel, and their employees it is just a numbers thing and manipulating those

…. #s in order to hit a target. Having a fair election and counting the votes honestly are of little
concern to them. It is just a numbers game.

Thiel’s Palantir was reported to have been running their “clean up program” called digital janitor
that didn’t flip or delete votes but hid that it happened.

[SCantiGOP]

35. Biden stealing the 2020 election

And Trump stealing the 2024 election (both while the other side controlled the White House) are two sides of the same coin; i.e., baseless conspiracy theories with no factual support.

[awesomerwb1]

39. So if they can "install" a president

they can also install a Congress?

[DemocracyForever]

42. Bush installed NOT elected in 2000

by the anti-democracy, corrupt Rehnquist 5 who stopped the legal Florida vote count leaving 160,000 legally cast ballots located in the largest and most heavily democratic voting counties in Florida uncounted. This is what started this nightmare.

[Irish_Dem]

51. 100% true. Billionaire and MAGA coup.

[ImNotGod]

52. He's been a russian agent since 1987. nt

[Blues Heron]

54. Elon and Trump both bragged about it

I believe them

[sarisataka]

57. And this is one of the reasons we loose

Because to anyone who followed polls and trends in the final weeks leading up to election day the result was not surprising.

Denial is a losing strategy.

[liberalla]

58. I'm right there with you! I believe it will eventually be revealed, too.

[Mr.Bee]

59. You Can't Think Objectively

while watching FuxNews.

[MineralMan]

60. You Do? Trump Thought Biden was "Installed," too.

But, guess what, Trump is in the White House and Biden was sworn in in 2021.

That is reality. What you're talking about is something different from reality.

Trump lost every court case. Kamala didn't go that losing route.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

62. Some say

Biden was installed too.