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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFrankly, if my grossly overweight patient with heart failure and
Obvious deterioration both mentally and physically, progressing rapidly, grossly swollen legs and feet and history of Transient Ischemic Attacks, I would advise against a 20,000 mile round trip airline flight, no matter how mobile you could in fact be during that flight.
This trip has potential to be highly problematic health-wise. But what do I know?
bif
(27,186 posts)It would be a terrible shame if anything happened to the Rapist.
rambler_american
(935 posts)won't we.
questionseverything
(11,937 posts)displacedvermoter
(4,962 posts)Jerry2144
(3,312 posts)Skittles
(172,728 posts)that is a given
Ocelot II
(131,161 posts)BannonsLiver
(20,836 posts)But Im hopeful.
MustLoveBeagles
(17,152 posts)Baitball Blogger
(52,695 posts)If something happens to Trump, MAGA will claim the Chinese poisoned him.
erronis
(24,468 posts)To say nothing about fluids leaking. (Sorry!)
Just Jerome
(546 posts)only having a protein shake for dinner.
WestMichRad
(3,376 posts)popsdenver
(2,581 posts)Perfect set up for our CIA to pull a false flag? (or is it Black Flag?) operation, have something happen to him, and blame it on China......
For those here old enough to remember ....
............wouldn't be the first time our government did that........
If I were China, I wouldn't let him anywhere near my country......and in all truth, "Mr. Worldly" couldn't even point out China on a blank map............
Maru Kitteh
(31,968 posts)Carry on sir (with tears in my eyes).
editing to add: I am not a big strong man, but hopefully my tears will do
PatSeg
(53,477 posts)his diplomatic trip as I believe he can do it! "Don't let the naysayers or doctors dissuade you sir, sniff, sniff. You can do this!"
maxsolomon
(39,120 posts)And not always to people who deserve it.
Old Crank
(7,195 posts)Doctors orders. I use them on flights longer than 2 hours. That normally covers 90 percent of my flights.
ZDU
(1,385 posts)Torchlight
(7,021 posts)tough for even Joe Sixpack to look past and ignore. I think the best messaging defense they have available on this one is the anemic, "well... let's just wait and see, it happens to the best of us.."
Liberal In Texas
(16,405 posts)It has an office/gym, a bedroom, a dining area/conference room, a full kitchen and a medical facility. It's almost not much more cramped and stressful than walking around the WH or one of his golf clubs.
But hope live eternally.

PCIntern
(28,563 posts)for brittle patients. There are many issues including but not limited to cabin pressure variations.
Ocelot II
(131,161 posts)is pressurized to the equivalent of 10,000 feet above seal level, which is at about the limit of where you can start to get hypoxia. So an overweight 80-year-old with possible congestive heart failure and a history of TIAs flying to China is basically going to be sitting on top of San Jacinto Peak for 10 hours. Many hours at 10,000' can reduce O2 saturation to about 88%, which might not be a good thing for said overweight 80-year-old.
Aviation Pro
(15,749 posts)To the pressurization kit.
Maru Kitteh
(31,968 posts)well. That is one way to go.
Aviation Pro
(15,749 posts)Do plenty of non-destructive testing on the fuselage.
3Hotdogs
(15,516 posts)FHRRK1
(107 posts)You are teasing that special "NASTY" number! (not that one)
Oh no, can we hope the O2 saturation drops to 86!
Oh god help me, could it happen at 47,000 feet?
Botany
(77,803 posts)I am sure that the plane has medical gear but
.. we always can hope for a massive cerebral vascular accident.
tavernier
(14,502 posts)Im surprised he doesnt hire two strong men to carry his chair from room to room and transfer him onto the toilet.
Liberal In Texas
(16,405 posts)COL Mustard
(8,367 posts)With the concomitant risk of a DVT for an elderly traveler.
Blue Owl
(59,584 posts)usonian
(26,498 posts)
This time, probably because he likes "high steaks" diplomacy. (30,000 feet high)
Jet engine flame broiled, with afterburners on full blast.

BUT BE WARNED.
Space aliens have been doxxed to the general public, and I hear that
THEY ARE PISSED
and will get even.

PCIntern
(28,563 posts)no_hypocrisy
(55,314 posts)Embolisms and all that.
Jes' sayin'
dave99
(243 posts)nclib
(1,024 posts)Vinca
(54,304 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(12,222 posts)Aviation Pro
(15,749 posts)Hypoxic hypoxia and stagnant hypoxia (because he won't move his fat, fucking ass).
haryn
(44 posts)The only good thing he could do for this country and the world is to forever leave them.
IbogaProject
(6,055 posts)With very poor speech and inability to post anymore. I want him to watch every one move on for awhile, especially for people to start to rebuke him while he is still alive.
AZ8theist
(7,605 posts)
niyad
(133,884 posts)ultralite001
(2,655 posts)Why isn't he going to Iran???
mercuryblues
(16,511 posts)That like it's a bad thing
Fil1957
(853 posts)Ocelot II
(131,161 posts)Fil1957
(853 posts)Ocelot II
(131,161 posts)Fil1957
(853 posts)Response to Fil1957 (Reply #31)
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Bluestocking
(777 posts)We all know he will survive the trip
ChicagoTeamster
(1,222 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(11,501 posts)What better way to precipitate a full on war with China than to have a president perish while visiting the country.
They will claim assassination, they will claim machinations and they will start a war that will run for decades because the people who are making billions want to keep on making billions. War is the only way to keep that number climbing.
As far as the costs? Well, the rich don't ever suffer consequences, so they won't care.
We could make them care... but we are too far up their asses to do that.
NNadir
(38,497 posts)Last edited Tue May 12, 2026, 06:59 PM - Edit history (1)
...celebratory post.
The more risk this horrible person takes with fragile physical health and a blown mind never should be subject to restriction.
eppur_se_muova
(42,420 posts)... they still haven't found anything serious ? Are these guys even trying ?
PCIntern
(28,563 posts)eppur_se_muova
(42,420 posts)33taw
(3,363 posts)a kennedy
(36,299 posts)NBachers
(19,557 posts)Joinfortmill
(21,607 posts)BeneteauBum
(747 posts)And I wonder how effective he can be on the world stage
Peace ☮️
bmichaelh
(1,257 posts)In Sicily 2017, G7 meeting, Trump drove a golf cart while the other world leaders walked.
And he is not in better shape since then.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/335424-trump-rode-golf-cart-while-g7-leaders-walked-through-siciliy/
Unrepentant Fenian
(1,141 posts)niyad
(133,884 posts)AverageOldGuy
(4,139 posts)Let him go. Two advantages of Trump being out of the US.
1. The stress of travel could kill him.
2. He's not awake after midnight tweeting.
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,494 posts)
Totally Tunsie
(11,995 posts)one would think eventually the odds would catch up with him.
Roll those dice!
Hassler
(4,957 posts)That it all works out for JD. He offed Francis with an awkward laugh, so who knows.
Faux pas
(16,519 posts)for some possibly GOOD NEWS
Ilsa
(64,536 posts)Thanks for the potentially good news.
Totally Tunsie
(11,995 posts)Ready at any time!
niyad
(133,884 posts)It is important to be prepared!
GenThePerservering
(3,664 posts)No magic wand. Dump isn't going anywhere. We have to deal with him.
BigmanPigman
(55,496 posts)for several weeks recently after they flew on a plane to CA from the East Coast. What's up with that? Has anyone else noticed this?
On the bright side, hopefully the fucking moron will get sick and die. Hope springs eternal!
Hope22
(4,855 posts)We can hope!
D_Master81
(2,673 posts)You cant be posting stuff getting peoples hopes up now
Orrex
(67,364 posts)As such, he should ride on the outside of the jet.
niyad
(133,884 posts)carpetbagger
(5,511 posts)He should do ok, everything he'd need is on the plane, and he can play a round of golf-cart golf without oxygen, so the cabin pressure, even if it's a standard airline pressure, shouldn't bother him.
I'm assuming he's got CHF, some medical problems we don't know about, and that while he's slowly declining cognitively, his two main problems are that he does have narcissistic personality disorder, and the other is that he gets constantly rewarded by his followers for his dysfunction. It's on us, the American electorate who put him there twice.
MiHale
(13,146 posts)Swede
(39,994 posts)AllyCat
(18,981 posts)Bet. 🤞
onenote
(46,223 posts)Folks have been speculating on Trump's health -- and predicting his imminent demise -- for nearly ten years. Some of the predictions cite doctors who allegedly are experts, such as the one quoting an anonymous (always anonymous) "certified medical professional with 14 years experience" who declared in early December that Trump would be dead in 3-5 months.
PCIntern
(28,563 posts)But I know a progression when I see one.
The Physical therapist youre referring to has been correct in all regards except timing which is always highly variable. The funny thing is that this guy has good genes, but has insured an early demise by lifestyle.
There may also be a tertiary STD issue here.