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drray23

(8,787 posts)
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 05:19 PM 3 hrs ago

So far, one F15, one A10 and one, maybe two Blackhawks lost.

And that is what is being made public. Good job, Donny and Pete!

So much for the bragging about having destroyed Iran's air defense capabilities. I am sure neither of these idiots is listening to the military leadership.

Speaking of this, is it legit to bomb civilian infrastructures like bridges, or is it a war crime? If so, why is the air force carrying out unlawful orders?


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So far, one F15, one A10 and one, maybe two Blackhawks lost. (Original Post) drray23 3 hrs ago OP
And pootin claps & cheers SheltieLover 2 hrs ago #1
and gives direction! IrishAfricanAmerican 1 hr ago #16
Of course pootin planned this & continues to orchestrate it. SheltieLover 57 min ago #18
Don't forget the AWACS destroyed on the ground Mysterian 2 hrs ago #2
And the F-15s lost to friendly fire. And .. ruet 2 hrs ago #5
And one KC-135 destroyed plus several others damaged. paleotn 1 hr ago #14
Bombing civilian infrastructure is a war crime. Katinfl 2 hrs ago #3
Not always. DetroitLegalBeagle 2 hrs ago #6
Good analysis! reACTIONary 1 hr ago #11
Do you think the US will follow the guidelines? Katinfl 56 min ago #19
Because the officers who opposed the bombing wnylib 1 hr ago #10
In this case, yes. James48 5 min ago #23
Military force should only be used as a last resort to protect vital national interests, with a clear objective. walkingman 2 hrs ago #4
How else could tsf lift ruskie sanctions on oil to please pootin? SheltieLover 55 min ago #20
I think there will be more, much more, that will be revealed later... and it'll be shameful and shocking. liberalla 2 hrs ago #7
And we have abandoned 13 of our military bases in and around Iran because we can't stop the Chinese Botany 2 hrs ago #8
And moved the personnel to hotels in the nearby towns. TheRickles 2 hrs ago #9
Would you rather they remain exposed? RetiredParatrooper 1 hr ago #13
So am I MustLoveBeagles 1 hr ago #15
Wait, what? TomSlick 1 hr ago #12
Don't forget the AWAC. Iggo 59 min ago #17
There's no money for healthcare or education or social programs IronLionZion 44 min ago #21
And the congressional Military stock holders (of both parties) are celebrating. LiberalArkie 12 min ago #22

SheltieLover

(80,540 posts)
18. Of course pootin planned this & continues to orchestrate it.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 07:23 PM
57 min ago

Tsf is trying to have his own Viet Nam, imo.

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Mysterian

(6,500 posts)
2. Don't forget the AWACS destroyed on the ground
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 05:25 PM
2 hrs ago

$700 million down the drain. Thanks, republicans.

Katinfl

(818 posts)
3. Bombing civilian infrastructure is a war crime.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 05:28 PM
2 hrs ago

Why the Air Force is carrying out these illegal orders I don’t know.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,505 posts)
6. Not always.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 05:59 PM
2 hrs ago

It's not automatically a war crime. Dual use infrastructure are legitimate targets if they serve a military purpose, function, or contribute to its effectiveness. Rules around proportionality still need to be followed as well as minimizing civilian casualties. But if the bridge is being used by the military, steps are taken to minimize civilian casualties, and its destruction won't disproportionally harm the civilian populace in comparison to the military advantage its destruction would give, then its not considered a war crime.

James48

(5,218 posts)
23. In this case, yes.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 08:15 PM
5 min ago

Congress has not declared war.

Every Iranian killed right now is a war crime of an undeclared war- military action.

Under international law, every strike without a declaration of war violates the laws of legal war.

walkingman

(10,873 posts)
4. Military force should only be used as a last resort to protect vital national interests, with a clear objective.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 05:49 PM
2 hrs ago

The loss of these aircraft and endangering their personal is the result of an Executive that is clearly demented. He should be removed from office before more lives are put at risk.

liberalla

(11,102 posts)
7. I think there will be more, much more, that will be revealed later... and it'll be shameful and shocking.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 06:00 PM
2 hrs ago

I'm ashamed of my country now... ( for the illegal actions and crimes it has committed )


Botany

(77,348 posts)
8. And we have abandoned 13 of our military bases in and around Iran because we can't stop the Chinese
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 06:01 PM
2 hrs ago

…. made drones that are getting targeting information from Russian satellites that Iran is using.

Btw

Trump,
“They (Iran) have no anti-aircraft equipment,”

TomSlick

(13,016 posts)
12. Wait, what?
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 06:36 PM
1 hr ago

I heard the Secretary of War Crimes say the Iranians had no surviving air defense capabilities.

So who downed these planes?

IronLionZion

(51,284 posts)
21. There's no money for healthcare or education or social programs
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 07:36 PM
44 min ago

but Donny is asking for lots more money for weapons. Maybe tax cuts will pay for it the same way Mexico paid for the wall.

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