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UpInArms

(54,504 posts)
Thu Feb 12, 2026, 09:42 AM 9 hrs ago

More Epstein weirdness: his "sponsor" wrote a book on rape and enslavement of children

More relevant to the Epstein situation is that he was an aspiring novelist who, in 1973, a year before his time as Dalton’s headmaster ended, published a book about intergalactic sex slavery called Space Relations. Vice, reporting on the book and its disturbing content, said: “In September of 1973, a year before his tenure at Dalton ended, Barr published Space Relations. The book is highly unsettling and depicts the rape of enslaved people, especially teenage girls, and other coercive sex acts for the dual purposes of entertainment and controlled procreation.”16

Continuing, the Vice article on the book notes that it revolves around mainly-male oligarchic predation on teenage girls and that “By far the most disgusting aspect of the novel is its fixation on sexualizing adolescents, and its depictions of rape. Even the adult characters in the book are constantly infantilized. The novel is also rife with casually unsettling observations such as: ‘To me, pederasty seems utterly lacking in aesthetic appeal.’”17

So, Donald Barr, at the time he was headmaster of Dalton and Dalton hired Epstein, the pedophile who hung around flirting with young girls and later ran a massive sex trafficking operation in which mainly male oligarchic elites preyed on young girls, wrote a book about oligarchic elites sadistically preying on young girls. As Vice noted in its article on the book, “the connection between Epstein and Barr is flimsy, and any link between Epstein’s crimes and the book’s contents even more so.”18 But it is a coincidence.


https://www.theamericantribune.news/p/the-barr-family-and-epstein

I thought I could not become more disturbed. I was wrong.

(Corrected to change the author of the book)
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More Epstein weirdness: his "sponsor" wrote a book on rape and enslavement of children (Original Post) UpInArms 9 hrs ago OP
Total psychopath Irish_Dem 9 hrs ago #1
I misread that as Epstein being the author. It was Donald Barr. underpants 9 hrs ago #2
Thanks for helping clarify the author UpInArms 9 hrs ago #3
Disgusting. I found another book by him. Looks like he jumped on the Star Wars train underpants 8 hrs ago #5
More info canetoad 4 hrs ago #13
Nothing to see here! Move along! harumph 9 hrs ago #4
Bears Repeating, So I Will. ColoringFool 8 hrs ago #6
Creepy deviants, every last one of them. Clouds Passing 8 hrs ago #7
FATHER OF BILL BARR, LAST KNOWN PERSON TO SEE JE IN CELL!!! ColoringFool 8 hrs ago #8
Many men excel as a "band of brothers." Look no further than the KKK, the Catholic altar boy allegorical oracle 4 hrs ago #12
That would be unlikely canetoad 1 hr ago #17
Barr was the headmaster of Dalton karynnj 8 hrs ago #9
Heinlein published a book in 1973 Mosby 6 hrs ago #10
that was the big fear in fairy tales NJCher 5 hrs ago #11
Very old article canetoad 4 hrs ago #14
That is a classic nothing to see here... "Aren't we all gentlemen?" kind of letter. harumph 2 hrs ago #16
Yes, that was noted canetoad 1 hr ago #18
Bill Barr's daddy, in case you didn't know MagickMuffin 3 hrs ago #15

UpInArms

(54,504 posts)
3. Thanks for helping clarify the author
Thu Feb 12, 2026, 09:52 AM
9 hrs ago

The way it read suggested it may have been written by Epstein … the connection between the two of them really reeks.

underpants

(195,650 posts)
5. Disgusting. I found another book by him. Looks like he jumped on the Star Wars train
Thu Feb 12, 2026, 10:33 AM
8 hrs ago

1981 - the third swipe to the left has the summary in the back cover. Not nearly as creepy.
https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Arms-Donald-Barr/dp/0449244075

canetoad

(20,446 posts)
13. More info
Thu Feb 12, 2026, 02:43 PM
4 hrs ago

Than you ever needed; it has it's own Wiki page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Relations
Space Relations: A Slightly Gothic Interplanetary Tale is a space opera novel by Donald Barr,

harumph

(3,147 posts)
4. Nothing to see here! Move along!
Thu Feb 12, 2026, 09:54 AM
9 hrs ago

Pay no attention to tales of forced insemination and the intergalactic sex slave trade!

Bill Barr is the product of Donald Barr's forced insemination of a bullfrog.

ColoringFool

(453 posts)
8. FATHER OF BILL BARR, LAST KNOWN PERSON TO SEE JE IN CELL!!!
Thu Feb 12, 2026, 10:41 AM
8 hrs ago

IS IT NOT LONG PAST TIME TO USE THE TERM "CONSPIRACY THEORY" AS A SIMPLE EXPRESSION OF FACT?

BECAUSE, COME ON. THERE'S UNIVERSAL SYNCHRONICITY; THERE'S PLAIN OLD COINCIDENCE; AND THEN THERE'S.....

THE EPSTEIN FILES.

Some crimes are committed, some fortunes are built, some governments are taken over----with long-range planning.

And even more involve two or more perpetrators.

How do so many alleged conspirators not "leak" secrets? A common skeptical question.

When one and/or one's loved ones are threatened, by very powerful people, with complete loss of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; or when, conversely, one is offered financial security beyond dreams---one can easily keep quiet forever.

Especially when one has seen, has been threatened with, AND HAS HIMSELF COMMITTED brutality beyond nightmares.

Now add audio and video recordings with photos, and you've got yourself quite the little Band of Brothers fidelity, there.

I'm J/S.

allegorical oracle

(6,337 posts)
12. Many men excel as a "band of brothers." Look no further than the KKK, the Catholic altar boy
Thu Feb 12, 2026, 02:29 PM
4 hrs ago

scandal, and the Boy Scouts. Took years for these offenses and memberships to be exposed.

karynnj

(60,838 posts)
9. Barr was the headmaster of Dalton
Thu Feb 12, 2026, 10:42 AM
8 hrs ago

I can't believe no one brought this to Dalton's board's notice. He should have been fired himself. Any parent learning about it, should have demanded his resignation.

Freedom of speech and press does not mean a person writing something like this can not be fired as headmaster.

Mosby

(19,364 posts)
10. Heinlein published a book in 1973
Thu Feb 12, 2026, 12:50 PM
6 hrs ago

Time Enough For Love. Pretty wild stuff. Also Orphans in the Sky (1963) had some crazy stuff in it, Heinein was a little obsessed with incest and sex with kids. I think Barr may have found "inspiration" from Heinlein.

Eta - I dont remember which one, but not only was tge main character having sex with kids, but they would fatten them up and eat them.

NJCher

(42,799 posts)
11. that was the big fear in fairy tales
Thu Feb 12, 2026, 01:44 PM
5 hrs ago

Remember the witch in Hansel and Gretel?



they would fatten them up and eat them.

Getting eaten.

canetoad

(20,446 posts)
14. Very old article
Thu Feb 12, 2026, 02:50 PM
4 hrs ago

About Donald Barr's exit from Dalton School for the NYT archive. It doesn't contain anything salacious, but shows that at the very least, his leaving the school came about under unusual circumstances.

Donald Barr, the controversial and outspoken headmaster of the Dalton School, one of the city's largest and most selective private schools, has resigned in protest of what he considers the trustee's interference with his leadership.

“Everyone knows that I am somewhat anachronistic in my views of the educational leadership of a school,” Mr. Barr wrote in a letter yesterday to faculty members and parents. “I am not comfortable with the definition of board‐head relations that I see becoming current in schools everywhere.”

Mr. Barr's resignation, which the board says was not requested and not expected, comes after 10 frequently stormy years as head of Dalton, which is housed in an 11‐story, brick building at 108 East 89th Street.

Question of Authority

The source of conflict between the strong‐minded Mr. Barr and his 20‐member board seemed to center on the question of where the board's authority should yield to the headmaster's judgment. There was apparently no one incident that prompted the resignation, but the confrontation was exacerbated by financial pressures that have forced the school to set priorities.

...more https://www.nytimes.com/1974/02/20/archives/barr-quits-dalton-school-post-charging-trustees-interference.html

harumph

(3,147 posts)
16. That is a classic nothing to see here... "Aren't we all gentlemen?" kind of letter.
Thu Feb 12, 2026, 05:00 PM
2 hrs ago

A lot of words without any specifics.

priorities, judgement... please.

The more I learn about republicans, it's seems like pervs all the way down.

He could've just as easily given a hand job to a student and they'd say the same thing.

canetoad

(20,446 posts)
18. Yes, that was noted
Thu Feb 12, 2026, 05:59 PM
1 hr ago

At the top of my post. Articles such as this are for background; so you know the full backstory and not go off half-cocked.

So, instead of me 'Prioritizing', you should read accurately. Anything else?

MagickMuffin

(18,250 posts)
15. Bill Barr's daddy, in case you didn't know
Thu Feb 12, 2026, 04:16 PM
3 hrs ago


Daddy Donald Barr got Epstein into the inner workings of the rich and famous, and Bill Barr made damn sure those secrets remained so.


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