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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'Big Short' investor Michael Burry says Tesla is 'ridiculously overvalued'
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/big-short-investor-michael-burry-says-tesla-is-ridiculously-overvalued/ar-AA1Ru8mc"As an aside, the Elon cult was all-in on electric cars until competition showed up, then all-in on autonomous driving until competition showed up, and now is all-in on robots until competition shows up," the legendary investor said.
I have been saying this for a while.
tinrobot
(11,893 posts)People have gone broke waiting for the bottom to drop out of that stock.
It will eventually. When the dam finally breaks, it will be catastrophic.
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edhopper
(36,928 posts)think those PE values are sustainable.
I remember in the 00s a housing bubble was obvious early on. It just takes time for something to crack.
For Tesla, as long as fools want to keep throwing money at that stock, it will rise, but once at some point....
EdmondDantes_
(1,229 posts)Unfortunately a lot of people still buy into the great man of history myth in the market so celebrity CEOs can boost their own value through stocks.
edhopper
(36,928 posts)for good or ill made their companies great, Edison, Ford, Geneen, Gates...
Elon is not one of those. He bought companies and was more lucky than smart.
EdmondDantes_
(1,229 posts)Or how much he benefited from government whether through EV subsidies, selling tax credits, etc. Plus it's easier to make big gambles when you start with a large fortune from apartheid emerald mines. But he's still portrayed as someone special.
In It to Win It
(12,130 posts)lame54
(39,010 posts)Johonny
(25,135 posts)Because it is a pathological stock.
fujiyamasan
(1,031 posts)But unless you have a lot of money to burn, short selling stocks is a very difficult game to win. Its not just about direction of the stock price, its also about the timing. Thats why options can be so dangerous. What people forget about the Big Short is that for a while, Burry was losing a lot of money.
There have been a lot of investors that have tried to short Tesla over the years, and they have usually got burned very badly. The same goes with Palantir.
Nvidia is imo different. Its a monster of a company, has a very wide moat, and has the margins and revenue growth to warrant a high valuation. It may be overvalued at the moment, but theres difference between a PE in the 40s or 50s (nvidia) that over 200-500 (Palantir being well over 300). The latter two are basically cult stocks.
edhopper
(36,928 posts)I would not short it, because who knows when investors will wake up.
But I will enjoy the collapse.
fujiyamasan
(1,031 posts)I read he bought a lot of puts on it, but I have no idea what strike price or expiration. Pltr is down ~20% from its highs, so if he bought those around then, hes doing well.
The CEO is an absolute lunatic, and of course one of the founders is Peter Thiel.