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applegrove

(129,465 posts)
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 12:08 AM 23 hrs ago

Beyond Trump's "Russian Plan" for Ukraine:

Last edited Mon Dec 1, 2025, 04:25 AM - Edit history (1)

In this 155th long read on my foreign affairs and strategic blog, I argue that there will ultimately be no peace deal with Russia.
I explain why this is not bad news—quite the contrary.
The “Russian plan” would be a deadly threat to Ukraine and Europe.
tenzerstrategics.substack.com/p/beyond-tru...

Nicolas Tenzer (@nicolastenzer.bsky.social) 2025-11-30T21:33:13.391Z




'You Can’t Be America First and Pro-Russia’

November 30, 2025 at 5:23 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 79 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2025/11/30/you-cant-be-america-first-and-pro-russia/

Rep. Mike Turner (R-OH) expressed concern Sunday that the White House-backed proposed plan to end the war in Ukraine is too pro-Russia, while urging that any peace arrangement must look at Russia as a “skeptical adversary,” CBS News reports.

Said Turner: “You can’t be America first and pro-Russia, because Russia is a self-declared adversary of the United States.”
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Beyond Trump's "Russian Plan" for Ukraine: (Original Post) applegrove 23 hrs ago OP
-Even if Ukraine was to sign Putin land grab lapfog_1 21 hrs ago #1
And putin would annoint a warlord to tamp it down. applegrove 21 hrs ago #2

lapfog_1

(31,495 posts)
1. -Even if Ukraine was to sign Putin land grab
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 01:21 AM
21 hrs ago

and disarmament deal, all that would happen is that there would be 20 million or more unhappy people in the new Russian Soviet Empire. Many of them willing to commit acts of terrorism.

applegrove

(129,465 posts)
2. And putin would annoint a warlord to tamp it down.
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 01:24 AM
21 hrs ago

Really the parts of the Ukraine they got control of in 2024 they have used colonialism on..... no income for the locals while all the money goes to Russian oligarchs and Putin.

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