Trans Partners Are Apparently Common in Groyper Subculture

[Deep State Witch]

Apparently trans partners are common in the "Groyper" subculture. "Femboys" are apparently a thing, especially within the gaming communities. This might explain the Minneapolis church shooter, too.

[still-prayin4rain]

1. Sounds kind of like the Taliban mentality with regard to women. Deeply, deeply disturbing.

Also, brings to mind Milo Yiannopoulos. Whatever happened to him? And I get kind of this extreme, twisted misogyny feeling about the Peter Thiel/JD Vance group of folks.

BUT I also want to be careful here casting aspersions on people based on their gender identities. The trans community has enough bizarre, negative rumors surrounding them, so I am hesitant to speculate too much. It's a tough subject.

[Deep State Witch]

3. I Agree

I know a couple of trans people. They're all on the liberal side of the spectrum. I actually lost the friendship of a transmasc friend because he was heavily into the "Queers for Palestine" movement. I informed him of what would happen to him as a trans person if he ever went to Gaza, and he cut me off.

This is something wholly different. The trans people that I know are trans because they believe that they were born into the wrong gender body. This is actually a young man being so submissive that they dress as a woman. It's a very cult-like.

[AloeVera]

4. Pinkwashing a genocide.

With respect, perhaps your trans friend objected to what he saw as an attempt to "pinkwash" the genocide?

An excerpt from an excellent article on this:

Those images from Gaza are part of a long-running international campaign that critics call “pinkwashing”because they say it aims to bolster the Israeli state by linking it with queerness, presenting it as an explicit counterpart to a Palestinian identity depicted as exclusively and violently homophobic.

It exploits global support for LGBTQ+ rights to further an Israeli ultranationalist political agenda and legitimise the oppression of Palestinians, said Sa’ed Atshan, chair of the department of peace and conflict studies at Swarthmore College and author of Queer Palestine and the Empire of Critique.

This messaging was driven not by genuine enthusiasm for LGBTQ+ rights from a government that includes a self-proclaimed “fascist homophobe” as finance minister, he said, but was deployed strategically for political ends.

More:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/16/queer-palestinians-lgbtq-israel-pride-flags-gaza-conflict-pink-washing

It's a fairly transparent propaganda technique. I'm shocked so many fall for it. Many LGBTQ+ folk and supporters, including me, see it as a violation and cynical exploitation of the rights they fought so hard for. By a state that denies the human rights of an entire people yet boasts about its "liberalism" so that it can continue to inflict horrors on masses of human beings.

[Deep State Witch]

9. Not That

I'm talking about HAMAS throwing one of their leaders off of the top of a tall building because he was a homosexual. Homosexuality is legal in the West Bank, which is not run by HAMAS. It is not legal in Gaza.

[Johonny]

2. Very ancient Roman

Everything old is new again

[WhiskeyGrinder]

5. Femboys aren't trans tho. In any case, looking for a coherent ideology is a fool's game when it comes to groypers.

[Maru Kitteh]

13. But do you think most of America, let alone MAGA are capable or

remotely interested in sussing out the nuances of groyper culture or trans vs. femboy? They will do as they always do, manipulate grains of truth into loaves to feed the fear of ‘other.’

[haele]

6. There has always been a male on male dom/sub element to "Warrior Cultures"

Especially amongst Early European groups that practiced exclusive cultural gender roles
It wasn't just the Greeks, pretty much all European and Middle/Central Eastern cultures, up until photographs became widespread and those practices went underground.
In this "Warrior Subculture" the practice of a providing the leader or head warrior of the group with the most feminine subordinate to act as both confidant and "pressure release valve" was fairly typical and not commented on. That subordinate was often described as the Leader's "beautiful son or brother" or "best friend", and was typically also a competent enough person already being trained to replace the leader or become the advisor/confident of the next leader should something happen.
Think of Achilles and Patriclus.

The issue comes from a very, very deep cultural fear that Women are somehow dangerous to Men - that even though it can be unpleasant or culturally unseemly for a man to take a submissive sexual role, a Woman, who is capable of giving life, is also capable of taking the "life" of the male manhood, which, of course, is the whole basis of what makes a Warrior a Warrior.

Laying with a female before battle saps one's manhood and takes away their power into that dark space of life and death.
Laying with the designated submissive releases pressure, and potentially grants that man some of the leader's strength, if the sub is being also groomed for leadership. (Possibly David and Benjamin? That relationship has often been discussed to be a potential dom/sub warrior relationship)

That sort of superstition lingers in a lot of male competitive arenas - especially in sports and military
Even now, a soldier or sailor who "crossdresses" at command events in a sexualized comedic manner is still not unheard of in most Militaries.

[Deep State Witch]

8. Bacha Bazi Boys

Sounds like the "Bacha Bazi Boys" in Afghanistan and Pakistan. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

[Be Leave On]

12. Monty Python

It sounds like the "Life of Bwyan" from Monty Python.

[haele]

16. Winston Churchill on what the Navy ran on...

"Rum, Buggery, and the Lash"

[obamanut2012]

7. It is a fact Nick Fuentes watches mtf trans porn

For real, via his computer tabs on hos podcast.

[MineralMan]

10. I suggest being pretty cautious about this.

I have no idea who the person is in that video, so I don't know what the credibility is. It's pretty easy to find someone, somewhere, who will tell you just about anything you're willing to hear.

This theory seems pretty sketchy to me, frankly. The trans people I know would not fit into any such category.

Caution!

[leftstreet]

11. +1

[planj07]

14. Can we please stop w/the groyper stuff?

Tyler is like us. He cared for his trans roommate who was being threatened by these hateful fascists. He took action. Not saying I agree with him. I think it was counter productive as it’s red meat for the KKKons.

[Deminpenn]

15. Given the email or text exchanges

the Utah AG read at his presser, this appears to be true.

[fujiyamasan]

17. I'm not sure who "us" is...

Because I’d like to think we also value free speech, even for the loathsome. I also don’t know how much he cared for trans people, because killing Kirk did nothing to make their lives any easier. It was blind rage, and a product of a toxic upbringing steeped in guns and violent video games. At that point, reality and his online life conflated. What’s the difference in killing someone in a hyper realistic game and real life? Just the tool used.

I think most of us here absolutely despise just about everything Kirk said. I’ve said it before a million times, I’m not grieving him and am sick of the media and this administration basically forcing us to grieve for him, but killing a highly visible messenger (of good or bad) rarely ever stops their movement, it just creates a martyr and strengthens the right’s resolve to double down on their agenda.